Topic: what reeally happened to the dinosaurs...
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Tue 05/25/10 08:09 AM

God did not make man as he is today. man chose to know good and evil.....and man choses to do mostly evil. God did not make them that way. God did not make the falling Angels that way either.


It is the biggest lie of Christianity that mankind mostely chooses evil. That's not even close to being true. On the contrary if it was true it would be impossible to have the kinds of peaceful societies and neigborhoods that we have.

On the contrary it's a proven fact that MOST humans choose GOOD.

In fact, if you look at the crime statistics you'll see that all crime is committed by less than 10% of the population. And that number includes really stupid things such as traffic violations, and other quite passive "crimes".

If we look at only VIOLENT crimes the percentage of people who commit violent crimes is LESS than 1% of the population. Therefore, 99% of the population CHOSES to be GOOD.

So the idea that most men choose evil is a LIE created by religious zealots who attempt to make out like mankind is responsible for all the evil in the world. In truth, natural disasters and disease cause far more havoc than mankind's supposedly "evil" behavior.

It's a LIE that men tend to choose evil. Religious people LIE!

Religion is a LIE.

Moreover, if you look at the mythology this same mythology has a full third of Heaven's angels siding with Satan. That's a full 33% of God's angels turning against him. That makes heaven a far more evil place than even Earth with it's mere 1% violent crimes. laugh

These religious fables are truly a joke that no one should give any credence to because they are CLEARLY FALSE. They are obvious lies.

To spread these religions is to spread lies.

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Tue 05/25/10 08:16 AM
Hehe. Dinosaurs.


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Tue 05/25/10 08:19 AM


God did not make man as he is today. man chose to know good and evil.....and man choses to do mostly evil. God did not make them that way. God did not make the falling Angels that way either.


It is the biggest lie of Christianity that mankind mostely chooses evil. That's not even close to being true. On the contrary if it was true it would be impossible to have the kinds of peaceful societies and neigborhoods that we have.

On the contrary it's a proven fact that MOST humans choose GOOD.

In fact, if you look at the crime statistics you'll see that all crime is committed by less than 10% of the population. And that number includes really stupid things such as traffic violations, and other quite passive "crimes".

If we look at only VIOLENT crimes the percentage of people who commit violent crimes is LESS than 1% of the population. Therefore, 99% of the population CHOSES to be GOOD.

So the idea that most men choose evil is a LIE created by religious zealots who attempt to make out like mankind is responsible for all the evil in the world. In truth, natural disasters and disease cause far more havoc than mankind's supposedly "evil" behavior.

It's a LIE that men tend to choose evil. Religious people LIE!

Religion is a LIE.

Moreover, if you look at the mythology this same mythology has a full third of Heaven's angels siding with Satan. That's a full 33% of God's angels turning against him. That makes heaven a far more evil place than even Earth with it's mere 1% violent crimes. laugh

These religious fables are truly a joke that no one should give any credence to because they are CLEARLY FALSE. They are obvious lies.

To spread these religions is to spread lies.


not percicely true. Evil is not just big crimes and all that good stuff. Evil also includes lieing, treating others disrespectful, denying the lord, and so many other variations of disobediance to God.

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Tue 05/25/10 08:40 AM
Edited by Abracadabra on Tue 05/25/10 08:41 AM

not percicely true. Evil is not just big crimes and all that good stuff. Evil also includes lieing, treating others disrespectful, denying the lord, and so many other variations of disobediance to God.


It's impossible to disobey a God who has never even spoken to you in person.

This is the problem with religion. It's ALL HEARSAY and individual interpretation.

For example, what even constitutes "treating others with disrespect?"

As far as I'm concerned preaching religion to people is an extremely disrespectful thing to do.

What constitutes "denying the lord"? Again, this is just a matter of personal interpretation. I can totally reject the Bible as being absolute rubish created by male-chauvinistic idiots, and STILL respect my own divine nature and the divine nature of the universe in general. Is that "denying the lord"? I don't think so.

So all of these ideals are totally subjective.

And getting back to the dinosaurs, how would they fit into this plan? laugh

Like Carl Sagan so famously said, the cosmic stage is far too large and complex for the Biblical plot. Dinosaurs would not have been needed if the PLAN was to create men and TEST them to see if they are naïve enough to buy into an ancient gory story of a God who is appeased by blood sacrifices and having his son nailed to a pole. whoa


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Tue 05/25/10 08:52 AM
Edited by CowboyGH on Tue 05/25/10 09:07 AM


not percicely true. Evil is not just big crimes and all that good stuff. Evil also includes lieing, treating others disrespectful, denying the lord, and so many other variations of disobediance to God.


It's impossible to disobey a God who has never even spoken to you in person.

This is the problem with religion. It's ALL HEARSAY and individual interpretation.

For example, what even constitutes "treating others with disrespect?"

As far as I'm concerned preaching religion to people is an extremely disrespectful thing to do.

What constitutes "denying the lord"? Again, this is just a matter of personal interpretation. I can totally reject the Bible as being absolute rubish created by male-chauvinistic idiots, and STILL respect my own divine nature and the divine nature of the universe in general. Is that "denying the lord"? I don't think so.

So all of these ideals are totally subjective.

And getting back to the dinosaurs, how would they fit into this plan? laugh

Like Carl Sagan so famously said, the cosmic stage is far too large and complex for the Biblical plot. Dinosaurs would not have been needed if the PLAN was to create men and TEST them to see if they are naïve enough to buy into an ancient gory story of a God who is appeased by blood sacrifices and having his son nailed to a pole. whoa




God speaks to us all, that is why some people have a better conscence then others. Our conscence is God speaking to us. He's that guilty little feeling inside of you when you're doing something wrong, or thinking of doing something you shouldn't. And denying Jesus christ was the son of God is denying the lord. Jesus christ is the lord of us all.

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Tue 05/25/10 09:05 AM

God speaks to us all, that is why some people have a better conscence then others. Our conscence is God speaking to us. He's that guilty little feeling inside of you when you're doing something wrong, or thinking of doing something you shouldn't.


Well, that's good to know then because that means that if you have no guilt feelings about something then it must be ok with God.

In other words, I have no guilt feelings about having premarital sex, therefore it must be ok with God, otherwise I would have guilt feelings associated with it. drinker

So this is just further proof to me that the book written by the Hewbrews that we have come to call the Bible, in fact, does not contain God's desires for me personally because clearly my conscience is not in harmony with the opinions of the men who wrote that book. bigsmile

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Tue 05/25/10 09:10 AM


God speaks to us all, that is why some people have a better conscence then others. Our conscence is God speaking to us. He's that guilty little feeling inside of you when you're doing something wrong, or thinking of doing something you shouldn't.


Well, that's good to know then because that means that if you have no guilt feelings about something then it must be ok with God.

In other words, I have no guilt feelings about having premarital sex, therefore it must be ok with God, otherwise I would have guilt feelings associated with it. drinker

So this is just further proof to me that the book written by the Hewbrews that we have come to call the Bible, in fact, does not contain God's desires for me personally because clearly my conscience is not in harmony with the opinions of the men who wrote that book. bigsmile


That is because you clearly don't believe in God. Closer we get to God, more he is inside of us, stronger our spirit is. So of course an atheist won't have any conscence bout anything. So you're just saying you're a lost mongrol who does not mind hurting people and wouldn't think twice bout robbing your neighbor. What a great thing to say bout yourself expecially on a dating site.

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Tue 05/25/10 10:33 AM



God speaks to us all, that is why some people have a better conscence then others. Our conscence is God speaking to us. He's that guilty little feeling inside of you when you're doing something wrong, or thinking of doing something you shouldn't.


Well, that's good to know then because that means that if you have no guilt feelings about something then it must be ok with God.

In other words, I have no guilt feelings about having premarital sex, therefore it must be ok with God, otherwise I would have guilt feelings associated with it. drinker

So this is just further proof to me that the book written by the Hewbrews that we have come to call the Bible, in fact, does not contain God's desires for me personally because clearly my conscience is not in harmony with the opinions of the men who wrote that book. bigsmile


That is because you clearly don't believe in God. Closer we get to God, more he is inside of us, stronger our spirit is. So of course an atheist won't have any conscence bout anything. So you're just saying you're a lost mongrol who does not mind hurting people and wouldn't think twice bout robbing your neighbor. What a great thing to say bout yourself expecially on a dating site.


I'd be willing to wager, that as an atheist, I am more moral than a lot of the religious people. I don't kill people over who has the more peaceful imaginary friend. I don't steal, because stealing is a dick move. I don't kill people because I enjoy life. I also don't deny people rights that I enjoy simply because a book of fables tells me to.

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Tue 05/25/10 10:46 AM

That is because you clearly don't believe in God. Closer we get to God, more he is inside of us, stronger our spirit is. So of course an atheist won't have any conscence bout anything. So you're just saying you're a lost mongrol who does not mind hurting people and wouldn't think twice bout robbing your neighbor. What a great thing to say bout yourself expecially on a dating site.


Thank you for showing everyone how absurd your reasoning is.

To begin with, I'm not an atheist, so your assumption there is nothing more than a display of your own ignorance.

Secondly, it's a far cry from not feeling that there is anything wrong with premartial sex to making the claim that someone would think that robbing their neighbor is ok.

Clearly you have no ability to reason. This probably explains why you need to believe in a mythology that demands that you let other people do you thinking for you. That's probably a good thing in your case. If you ever find yourself in need of a bible for instructions let me know and I'll see to it that a religious organization sends you one so you don't have to hurt your brain trying to figure out what's right or wrong. whoa

And don't forget to stone your unruly childern to death as the God fo the Bible has commanded that you do, and Jesus had confirmed that you should be doing.

On the other hand, maybe you better skip that part of the book. My conscience tells me that stoning your children to death is not a good thing to do, and I'd rather go by my conscience than by the sick ideas presented by the authors of the book you worship.


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Tue 05/25/10 10:59 AM

I'd be willing to wager, that as an atheist, I am more moral than a lot of the religious people. I don't kill people over who has the more peaceful imaginary friend. I don't steal, because stealing is a dick move. I don't kill people because I enjoy life. I also don't deny people rights that I enjoy simply because a book of fables tells me to.


Truly, most atheists I've met have displayed far higher moral values than the religious people I meet.

Even though I'm not an atheist myself, I can still see that many atheists are indeed very highly moral people.

Of course there are atheists who have no morals too, but the point is that atheism in general clearly does not equate to having no morals and it especially doesn't equate to not having a conscience.

My ethics far exceed the morals taught by the authors of the Bible. Of course, I'm also not an atheist, (although that can be argued depending on how person defines the term). I don't believe in Zeus-like egotistical jealous male gods who are appeased by blood sacrifices. For some people I supposed that makes me an 'atheist'.

I have far higher morals than any mythological gods who are appeased by blood sacrifices. That's an immoral mentality right there, IMHO.

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Tue 05/25/10 11:31 AM


That is because you clearly don't believe in God. Closer we get to God, more he is inside of us, stronger our spirit is. So of course an atheist won't have any conscence bout anything. So you're just saying you're a lost mongrol who does not mind hurting people and wouldn't think twice bout robbing your neighbor. What a great thing to say bout yourself expecially on a dating site.


Thank you for showing everyone how absurd your reasoning is.

To begin with, I'm not an atheist, so your assumption there is nothing more than a display of your own ignorance.

Secondly, it's a far cry from not feeling that there is anything wrong with premartial sex to making the claim that someone would think that robbing their neighbor is ok.

Clearly you have no ability to reason. This probably explains why you need to believe in a mythology that demands that you let other people do you thinking for you. That's probably a good thing in your case. If you ever find yourself in need of a bible for instructions let me know and I'll see to it that a religious organization sends you one so you don't have to hurt your brain trying to figure out what's right or wrong. whoa

And don't forget to stone your unruly childern to death as the God fo the Bible has commanded that you do, and Jesus had confirmed that you should be doing.

On the other hand, maybe you better skip that part of the book. My conscience tells me that stoning your children to death is not a good thing to do, and I'd rather go by my conscience than by the sick ideas presented by the authors of the book you worship.




If you do not believe in our great God told to us in the holy bible then you are still in fact an atheist. Cause as a fact atheist people are ones that do not believe in a God, and if you don't believe in the God in the holy bible then you are in fact an atheist.

And there is no difference between premaritial sex to robbing someone. A sin is a sin no matter how you turn it. Murder, stealing, and all that stuff are all sins and worth equal punishment, lake of fire.

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Tue 05/25/10 11:37 AM

If you do not believe in our great God told to us in the holy bible then you are still in fact an atheist. Cause as a fact atheist people are ones that do not believe in a God, and if you don't believe in the God in the holy bible then you are in fact an atheist.

And there is no difference between premaritial sex to robbing someone. A sin is a sin no matter how you turn it. Murder, stealing, and all that stuff are all sins and worth equal punishment, lake of fire.


Too bad you weren't around during the Crusades, you would have made a great general!

The kind of religious prejudice that you're spewing here is actually solid legal grounds for having Christianity banned under the "Hate Crime" laws.

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Tue 05/25/10 11:51 AM


If you do not believe in our great God told to us in the holy bible then you are still in fact an atheist. Cause as a fact atheist people are ones that do not believe in a God, and if you don't believe in the God in the holy bible then you are in fact an atheist.

And there is no difference between premaritial sex to robbing someone. A sin is a sin no matter how you turn it. Murder, stealing, and all that stuff are all sins and worth equal punishment, lake of fire.


Too bad you weren't around during the Crusades, you would have made a great general!

The kind of religious prejudice that you're spewing here is actually solid legal grounds for having Christianity banned under the "Hate Crime" laws.


It also goes to show that there is little, if any, difference between the fundamentalists and extremists of the religions..

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Tue 05/25/10 12:01 PM


If you do not believe in our great God told to us in the holy bible then you are still in fact an atheist. Cause as a fact atheist people are ones that do not believe in a God, and if you don't believe in the God in the holy bible then you are in fact an atheist.

And there is no difference between premaritial sex to robbing someone. A sin is a sin no matter how you turn it. Murder, stealing, and all that stuff are all sins and worth equal punishment, lake of fire.


Too bad you weren't around during the Crusades, you would have made a great general!

The kind of religious prejudice that you're spewing here is actually solid legal grounds for having Christianity banned under the "Hate Crime" laws.


Alot of the tactics done in the crusades were extremely evil, and so therefor blasephemy. Again killing is a sin, and the crusades used this tactic alot. That was an evil act and should not have been done this way. So no i would not have made a great general in those particular cases atleast, cause i would not have gone to such. As they say, you can bring a horse to water, but you can't force it to drink, same with bringing people to God. You can bring God to them, but you can't force them to believe.

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Tue 05/25/10 12:09 PM



If you do not believe in our great God told to us in the holy bible then you are still in fact an atheist. Cause as a fact atheist people are ones that do not believe in a God, and if you don't believe in the God in the holy bible then you are in fact an atheist.

And there is no difference between premaritial sex to robbing someone. A sin is a sin no matter how you turn it. Murder, stealing, and all that stuff are all sins and worth equal punishment, lake of fire.


Too bad you weren't around during the Crusades, you would have made a great general!

The kind of religious prejudice that you're spewing here is actually solid legal grounds for having Christianity banned under the "Hate Crime" laws.


Alot of the tactics done in the crusades were extremely evil, and so therefor blasephemy. Again killing is a sin, and the crusades used this tactic alot. That was an evil act and should not have been done this way. So no i would not have made a great general in those particular cases atleast, cause i would not have gone to such. As they say, you can bring a horse to water, but you can't force it to drink, same with bringing people to God. You can bring God to them, but you can't force them to believe.


And, yet your god is the one most guilty of it..
According to the Bible, God has killed 2,391,421 people. That isn't counting the number of times he slaughtered people and no number was given.

I'm Atheist because I've above worshiping a bloodthirsty hypocrite.

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Tue 05/25/10 12:14 PM




If you do not believe in our great God told to us in the holy bible then you are still in fact an atheist. Cause as a fact atheist people are ones that do not believe in a God, and if you don't believe in the God in the holy bible then you are in fact an atheist.

And there is no difference between premaritial sex to robbing someone. A sin is a sin no matter how you turn it. Murder, stealing, and all that stuff are all sins and worth equal punishment, lake of fire.


Too bad you weren't around during the Crusades, you would have made a great general!

The kind of religious prejudice that you're spewing here is actually solid legal grounds for having Christianity banned under the "Hate Crime" laws.


Alot of the tactics done in the crusades were extremely evil, and so therefor blasephemy. Again killing is a sin, and the crusades used this tactic alot. That was an evil act and should not have been done this way. So no i would not have made a great general in those particular cases atleast, cause i would not have gone to such. As they say, you can bring a horse to water, but you can't force it to drink, same with bringing people to God. You can bring God to them, but you can't force them to believe.


And, yet your god is the one most guilty of it..
According to the Bible, God has killed 2,391,421 people. That isn't counting the number of times he slaughtered people and no number was given.

I'm Atheist because I've above worshiping a bloodthirsty hypocrite.


first of all God DOES NOT kill anyone. He takes them back home or sends them to hell for their evil lives. Only way to die is by being evil and not uplifting our great God, cause if you do this you'll live for eternity. Only one that kills anyone is ourselves. We are the ones the kill ourselves with out actions we take in our lives. Jesus may be called the one who will judge us, but we choose weather we go to heaven or hell through how we live our lives. What i'm meening by this is if you are choosing to go to heaven you'll live your life according to his word *judgement one* if you've decided to live your life like a heathen and go around causeing all kinds of havec you've judged yourself to burn in the lake of fire.

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Tue 05/25/10 12:20 PM

Alot of the tactics done in the crusades were extremely evil, and so therefor blasephemy. Again killing is a sin, and the crusades used this tactic alot. That was an evil act and should not have been done this way. So no i would not have made a great general in those particular cases atleast, cause i would not have gone to such. As they say, you can bring a horse to water, but you can't force it to drink, same with bringing people to God. You can bring God to them, but you can't force them to believe.


In that case you would have been cast out as a heretic.

Besides, it's the whole idea of "Bringing people to God" that is the arrogant idea in the first place. This whole religion causes its followers to believe that they are somehow closer to God than people who reject this mythology.

For example, I can have the most immpeccable morals and be the most saintly person on the planet, yet you would consider me to be a lost soul simply because I don't buy into the story of a God who is appeased by blood sacrifices.

I could never buy into such a story. IMHO, it's sicker than sick. I"m certainly not going to believe in it based on pure faith because there is absolutely no reason why I would even want to have faith that our creator is so sick.

So this leaves me with no other choice than to exam it for rational reasons to believe it. Well, as soon as I do that I find absolutely NONE. Zip, zilch, not one sane reason to believe it. The religion contradicts everything that I personally view as "moral" and ethical.

I think it's extremely unethical for a god to ask the objects of his creation to judge each other and stone "sinners" to death. Yet this book demands that our created did indeed instruct people to do this very thing.

I could go on and on, but what would be the point? It's just one immoral thing after another. I don't see how any sincere person who genuinely has a conscience could buy into the behavior that these ancient Hebrews authors made up. And I see absolutely no reason to believe that they are anything other than entirely made up stories. They really aren't all that different from the Greek Mythologies of Zeus and company. It's just more of the same as far as I can see.

And no one believes that Greek Mythology reprsents the creator of this universe. I imagine that you, yourself, have no problem at all dismissing Greek Mythology as nothing more than mythology. But it wasn't ALWAYS considered to be mythology. To the Greeks, Zeus was every bit as real as the Christians believe their god to be. In fact, it was the Christians who went into Greece and pronounced the Greek Religions to be "Mythologies" whilst proselytizing their own mythologies as "The real thing".

I say baloney. It's all utterly stupid. All of it. Gods who are appeased by blood sacrifices and ask people to judge and stone each other to death. I don't believe that any real god would ever ask people to do any such thing.

I have higher morals than that.

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Tue 05/25/10 12:35 PM
Edited by CowboyGH on Tue 05/25/10 12:37 PM


Alot of the tactics done in the crusades were extremely evil, and so therefor blasephemy. Again killing is a sin, and the crusades used this tactic alot. That was an evil act and should not have been done this way. So no i would not have made a great general in those particular cases atleast, cause i would not have gone to such. As they say, you can bring a horse to water, but you can't force it to drink, same with bringing people to God. You can bring God to them, but you can't force them to believe.


In that case you would have been cast out as a heretic.

Besides, it's the whole idea of "Bringing people to God" that is the arrogant idea in the first place. This whole religion causes its followers to believe that they are somehow closer to God than people who reject this mythology.

For example, I can have the most immpeccable morals and be the most saintly person on the planet, yet you would consider me to be a lost soul simply because I don't buy into the story of a God who is appeased by blood sacrifices.

I could never buy into such a story. IMHO, it's sicker than sick. I"m certainly not going to believe in it based on pure faith because there is absolutely no reason why I would even want to have faith that our creator is so sick.

So this leaves me with no other choice than to exam it for rational reasons to believe it. Well, as soon as I do that I find absolutely NONE. Zip, zilch, not one sane reason to believe it. The religion contradicts everything that I personally view as "moral" and ethical.

I think it's extremely unethical for a god to ask the objects of his creation to judge each other and stone "sinners" to death. Yet this book demands that our created did indeed instruct people to do this very thing.

I could go on and on, but what would be the point? It's just one immoral thing after another. I don't see how any sincere person who genuinely has a conscience could buy into the behavior that these ancient Hebrews authors made up. And I see absolutely no reason to believe that they are anything other than entirely made up stories. They really aren't all that different from the Greek Mythologies of Zeus and company. It's just more of the same as far as I can see.

And no one believes that Greek Mythology reprsents the creator of this universe. I imagine that you, yourself, have no problem at all dismissing Greek Mythology as nothing more than mythology. But it wasn't ALWAYS considered to be mythology. To the Greeks, Zeus was every bit as real as the Christians believe their god to be. In fact, it was the Christians who went into Greece and pronounced the Greek Religions to be "Mythologies" whilst proselytizing their own mythologies as "The real thing".

I say baloney. It's all utterly stupid. All of it. Gods who are appeased by blood sacrifices and ask people to judge and stone each other to death. I don't believe that any real god would ever ask people to do any such thing.

I have higher morals than that.


Ok lets clearify a little for you so then you might see the possibility. It's not particularly "blood" sacrifices. It's just sacrificing for God and the rest of the world. Like before Jesus came and people did sacrificing for God, it didn't have to be an animal or anything alive. The sacrifice only was something they enjoyed.

We do it still today in a way. Following God meens we won't be killing someone when they make us horribly mad at them *sacrificing our feelings to not harm anyone else*, or steal something when we need it but can't afford it *sacrificing having that object and just do without for the time being. Again it does NOT have to be a blood sacrifice.

*I think it's extremely unethical for a god to ask the objects of his creation to judge each other and stone "sinners" to death. Yet this book demands that our created did indeed instruct people to do this very thing*

And this no longer applys to us. That is why we now have a judgement day, people will be judged now by Jesus christ and punishment won't be just getting stoned.

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Tue 05/25/10 12:40 PM

Ok lets clearify a little for you so then you might see the possibility. It's not particularly "blood" sacrifices. It's just sacrificing for God and the rest of the world. Like before Jesus came and people did sacrificing for God, it didn't have to be an animal or anything alive. The sacrifice only was something they enjoyed.

We do it still today in a way. Following God meens we won't be killing someone when they make us horribly mad at them *sacrificing our feelings to not harm anyone else*, or steal something when we need it but can't afford it *sacrificing having that object and just do without for the time being. Again it does NOT have to be a blood sacrifice.

*I think it's extremely unethical for a god to ask the objects of his creation to judge each other and stone "sinners" to death. Yet this book demands that our created did indeed instruct people to do this very thing*

And this no longer applys to us. That is why we now have a judgement day, people will be judged now by Jesus christ and punishment won't be just getting stoned.


I really feel sorry for you, as it's clear that without this security blanket of religion, you wouldn't be a very good person. Abra and myself have both brought up that we don't need your god (or a god) to be good, moral people.

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Tue 05/25/10 12:43 PM


Ok lets clearify a little for you so then you might see the possibility. It's not particularly "blood" sacrifices. It's just sacrificing for God and the rest of the world. Like before Jesus came and people did sacrificing for God, it didn't have to be an animal or anything alive. The sacrifice only was something they enjoyed.

We do it still today in a way. Following God meens we won't be killing someone when they make us horribly mad at them *sacrificing our feelings to not harm anyone else*, or steal something when we need it but can't afford it *sacrificing having that object and just do without for the time being. Again it does NOT have to be a blood sacrifice.

*I think it's extremely unethical for a god to ask the objects of his creation to judge each other and stone "sinners" to death. Yet this book demands that our created did indeed instruct people to do this very thing*

And this no longer applys to us. That is why we now have a judgement day, people will be judged now by Jesus christ and punishment won't be just getting stoned.


I really feel sorry for you, as it's clear that without this security blanket of religion, you wouldn't be a very good person. Abra and myself have both brought up that we don't need your god (or a god) to be good, moral people.


worshipping God does not only consist of being a good person. People don't choose to follow what the holy bible tells us just so we'll be good people. It is because God is everyone's father, and for a family to work properly the children would have to listen to there father or be punished. It is as simple as that, we don't follow God's laws to appease him and not go to hell. We do it to glorify God and listen to him as he is our father.