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Is it theoretically possible for a computer to have conscious thought, to make decisions for itself? It has never been documented as happening to date, but is within the realm of possibility one day for it be so? The day a "computer", which is just a logic machine, is able to re-write its own programming is the day computers can "think". Thinking (hopefully) reaches some truth that changes how the thinker sees the world / responds to events. |
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did you not watch eagle eye
and the people lost bummer it was so close |
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did you not watch eagle eye and the people lost bummer it was so close |
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did you not watch eagle eye and the people lost bummer it was so close if you get a chance to watch the movie eagle eye do so and you will understand completely |
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Edited by
Bushidobillyclub
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Tue 08/04/09 10:15 AM
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did you not watch eagle eye and the people lost bummer it was so close if you get a chance to watch the movie eagle eye do so and you will understand completely Looks like the people won at least temporarily. |
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Edited by
smiless
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Tue 08/04/09 10:26 AM
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- Concerning Thomas's question.-
I think it will happen. If anything cyborgs will be real. Half human and half robot, similiar to robocop I would say. I hope it doesn't happen in my lifetime, but it just seems like when it comes to science fiction films we do vision things that later happen. I also think that this world will probally experience a world war to stabilize the population dilema. It is not that I wish it to happen, but the ongoing population growth is a problem and it doesn't look like most countries care. After this war when some countries have recovered, new inventions will occur to reinvent how the industry will be. Robots or Cyborgs will be working the many jobs we know eliminating the possiblity that a human will even have a chance getting a job. Only those who are human with great work experience with a recognizable degree (and the willingness to work very long hours) might have supervising positions that will be lucky to have an income to live a medicore middle class life. Perhaps those who have money will buy robots or cyborgs to work for them to bring in the income. Well I hope I didn't go to far ahead of myself as this surely looks like a science fiction film you once seen before. 
If computers will think on their own one day and realize that they can function without humans then one can only worry if this would be a good idea for mankind. I predict for many it will not be. |
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did you not watch eagle eye and the people lost bummer it was so close if you get a chance to watch the movie eagle eye do so and you will understand completely Looks like the people won at least temporarily. like i said watch the movie perspective is the key if you watch it i think you will agree w/me """"the people"""" almost won |
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did you not watch eagle eye and the people lost bummer it was so close if you get a chance to watch the movie eagle eye do so and you will understand completely Looks like the people won at least temporarily. like i said watch the movie perspective is the key if you watch it i think you will agree w/me """"the people"""" almost won |
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did you not watch eagle eye and the people lost bummer it was so close if you get a chance to watch the movie eagle eye do so and you will understand completely Looks like the people won at least temporarily. like i said watch the movie perspective is the key if you watch it i think you will agree w/me """"the people"""" almost won they programmed the constitution into the super computer |
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they programmed the constitution into the super computer |
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Such an interesting topic figured Id add a bit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_artificial_intelligence Can a machine display general intelligence?
Is it possible to create a machine that can solve all the problems humans solve using their intelligence? This is the question that AI researchers are most interested in answering. It defines the scope of what machines will be able to do in the future and guides the direction of AI research. It only concerns the behavior of machines and ignores the issues of interest to psychologists, cognitive scientists and philosophers; to answer this question, it doesn't matter whether a machine is really thinking (as a person thinks) or is just acting like it is thinking.[7] The basic position of most AI researchers is summed up in this statement, which appeared in the proposal for the Dartmouth Conferences of 1956: * Every aspect of learning or any other feature of intelligence can be so precisely described that a machine can be made to simulate it.[3] Arguments against the basic premise must show that building a working AI system is impossible, because there is some practical limit to the abilities of computers or that there is some special quality of the human mind that is necessary for thinking and yet can't be duplicated by a machine (or by the methods of current AI research). Arguments in favor of the basic premise must show that such a system is possible. The first step to answering the question is to clearly define "intelligence." This brings us to the Turing Test. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test Philosophical background The question of whether it is possible for machines to think has a long history, which is firmly entrenched in the distinction between dualist and materialist views of the mind. From the perspective of dualism, the mind is non-physical (or, at the very least, has non-physical properties[6]) and, therefore, cannot be explained in purely physical terms. The materialist perspective argues that the mind can be explained physically, and thus leaves open the possibility of minds that are artificially produced.[7] In 1936, philosopher Alfred Ayer considered the standard philosophical question of other minds: how do we know that other people have the same conscious experiences that we do? In his book Language, Truth and Logic Ayer suggested a protocol to distinguish between a conscious man and an unconscious machine: "The only ground I can have for asserting that an object which appears to be conscious is not really a conscious being, but only a dummy or a machine, is that it fails to satisfy one of the empirical tests by which the presence or absence of consciousness is determined."[8] (This suggestion is very similar to the Turing test, but it is not certain that Ayer's popular philosophical classic was familiar to Turing.) Which brings us to a great example of the problems that need to be dealt with. The Chinese room
John Searle's 1980 paper Minds, Brains, and Programs proposed an argument against the Turing Test known as the "Chinese room" thought experiment. Searle argued that software (such as ELIZA) could pass the Turing Test simply by manipulating symbols of which they had no understanding. Without understanding, they could not be described as "thinking" in the same sense people do. Therefore—Searle concludes—the Turing Test cannot prove that a machine can think, contrary to Turing's original proposal.[26] Arguments such as that proposed by Searle and others working on the philosophy of mind sparked off a more intense debate about the nature of intelligence, the possibility of intelligent machines and the value of the Turing test that continued through the 1980s and 1990s.[27] Which bring us back to epistemology and what is knowledge. |
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Is it theoretically possible for a computer to have conscious thought, to make decisions for itself? It has never been documented as happening to date, but is within the realm of possibility one day for it be so?  Like a mind that would only exist within a machine.
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What you are trying to get at is self awareness. Can a machine become self aware? Is a cat self aware? Are we, really?
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What if someones spirit could live on in the internet?
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What if someones spirit could live on in the internet?
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What if someones spirit could live on in the internet?
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 me thinks the OP knows the answer now...
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Edited by
JaneStar1
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Wed 08/19/09 01:42 AM
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TO EVEN BEGIN COMPREHENDING WHAT THE FUTURE IS ABOUT,
ONE MUST READ "I ROBOT" by Isaak Asimov, the father of "literary" idea of the ANDROIDS !!! *** FORGET ABOUT JUST WATCHING THE MOVIE * * * ********************************************************* |
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