Example:

What does this mean to you?

I like her cooking.

It could mean that you have tasted her cooking and you liked it.

It could mean that you prefer her cooking, rather than doing something else.

It could mean that you prefer her cooking rather than you cooking.

It could mean that you find her desirable when she is cooking.

Or maybe that he likes the smell of her when he has chopped her up and stuck her in the oven..

very true. So that is 5 different meanings on a very small statement...

which one is the "right" one?

very true. So that is 5 different meanings on a very small statement...

which one is the "right" one?

Creative:

Asking a question like: "Is thought an unspoken language?" Is not philosophy either.

He claimed for me that I had been attempting to prove a premise. I was not.

I was, and still am, gathering information regarding an idea of Carl Jung.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Philosophical discussion does not require that someone prove a set of axioms following from a premise. One or more can just philosophically speak about the grounds of certain ideas without attempting to prove anything.

It is not always about proving a point, it is a process of thinking.

James' earlier description of philosophy, while it was accurate in the sense of proving an inductive argument, did not allow for the fact that not all philosophy is out to prove a point. It also completely disregarded another very important style of argument... deductive. There are only two kinds of logical arguments in philosophy, inductive(which he described) and deductive which he dismissed as not being valid.

He claimed for me that I had been attempting to prove a premise. I was not. I was, and still am, gathering information regarding an idea of Carl Jung.

Well well. That's the first I ever heard of that. You might have mentioned that in the beginning and we might have had an interesting conversation about Carl Jung. (Who ever that is) Is he a philosopher?

If I had known this is what you were doing I could have done a little research on Carl Jung and his philosophy and been a tad bit more informed about what you were doing.

You see, I was correct in assuming that you were leaving something out.

I feel much better now, but that was a very hard tooth to extract.

This is a recent side aspect of another topic, and one which has always interested myself.

Well well. That's the first I ever heard of that. You might have mentioned that in the beginning and we might have had an interesting conversation about Carl Jung. (Who ever that is) Is he a philosopher?

If I had known this is what you were doing I could have done a little research on Carl Jung and his philosophy and been a tad bit more informed about what you were doing.

You see, I was correct in assuming that you were leaving something out.

I feel much better now, but that was a very hard tooth to extract. Whew! I'm exhausted.

I have a book or two about him...

I read about him and studied him when I was working in psychiatry. He was known as the "Father of Analytical Psychiatry", no?

I have a book or two about him...

I read about him and studied him when I was working in psychiatry. He was known as the "Father of Analytical Psychiatry", no?

Telling JB she has no idea what she is talking about, kinda contradicts your own wishes to keep personal judgemsnts out of the discussion.

Telling JB she has no idea what she is talking about, kinda contradicts your own wishes to keep personal judgemsnts out of the discussion.

If you ask a question 'IS something, something?' kinda suggests a yes or no answer, and a likely debate will follow.

Maybe you need to re-word your threads?

Maybe,for example - Thought as an unspoken language. What are your opinions?

JB wrote...



The OP clearly stated that the topic was an interest of mine. Perhaps you missed it?

I don't know what we should and should not be discussing the forums. I agree with Bushido that things have gotten way out of hand - and yet, if we were to completely deny any kind of conversation that touched on a persons character whatsoever, we would never be able to call out the thread trolls.

So, for example, this comment:

Telling JB she has no idea what she is talking about, kinda contradicts your own wishes to keep personal judgemsnts out of the discussion.

Strikes me as not only accurate, but appropriate.

No I did not miss it. What was not mentioned was Carl Jung.

Carl Gustav Jung (German pronunciation: [ˈkarl ˈɡʊstaf ˈjʊŋ]; 26 July 1875 – 6 June 1961) was a Swiss psychiatrist, an influential thinker and the founder of analytical psychology known as Jungian psychology. Jung's approach to psychology has been influential in the field of depth psychology and in countercultural movements across the globe. Jung is considered as the first modern psychologist to state that the human psyche is "by nature religious" and to explore it in depth.[1] He emphasized understanding the psyche through exploring the worlds of dreams, art, mythology, religion and philosophy.

Although he was a theoretical psychologist and practicing clinician, much of his life's work was spent exploring other areas, including Eastern and Western philosophy, alchemy, astrology, sociology, as well as literature and the arts. His most notable ideas include the concept of psychological archetypes, the collective unconscious and synchronicity.

Jung emphasized the importance of balance and harmony. He cautioned that modern people rely too heavily on science and logic and would benefit from integrating spirituality and appreciation of unconscious realms. He considered the process of individuation necessary for a person to become whole. This is a psychological process of integrating the conscious with the unconscious while still maintaining conscious autonomy.[2] Individuation was the central concept of analytical psychology.[3]