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MirrorMirror's photo
Sun 07/12/09 01:34 PM


Abracadabra's photo
Sun 07/12/09 02:29 PM

The verbage Jesus Christ is Jesus the Christ for the Christians, it's their term, they can have it. They get pretty upset if you question ANYTHING....
I say they can keep satan too, since he is one of their mind f**k
creations, I don't want him, it.pitchfork


Truly.

It's impossible to accept Jesus as your savior until you first accept Satan as your nemesis.

Satan gives Jesus meaning.

Satan is truly the bedrock upon which Christianity stands.

Without Satan there is no need for Jesus.

You must believe in Satan First.

You must put Satan before Jesus.

Nothing else make any sense.

I've often argued this with evangelists.

They come and ask, "Have you accepted Jesus as your savior?"

I ask, "Savior from what?"

They say, "Savior from sin."

I ask, "From whence does sin come?"

They say, "From Satan!"

Then I say, well, shouldn't you be asking me to accept Satan as my nemesis before you start asking me to accept Jesus as my savior?

They never seem to understand. They just assume that I already believe in Satan. laugh

It's like they don't even get it. whoa

If I believed in Satan, then maybe I'd have reason to believe in Jesus too. But until I accept Satan there's no point in seeking Jesus to save me from Satan.

It's a riducluous religion. You need to believe in the religion before it can even threaten you.

Even Zeus wasn't dependent on the existence of a Satan. But Zeus wasn't a male-chauvinist jealous pig who threatened to be mean to anyone who refused to believe in him either.

Come to think of it, Zeus probably wasn't all that bad of a God.


Ladylid2012's photo
Sun 07/12/09 02:35 PM
I think I keep on believing in me and you and all sentient beings, that seems to be working for me.:smile: Even on the challenging days. When I look into satan, maybe I'll kill a chicken or something..indifferent

Abracadabra's photo
Sun 07/12/09 02:42 PM

I think I keep on believing in me and you and all sentient beings, that seems to be working for me.:smile:


Exactly.

We should be Gods and Goddesses for each other. All humans are sacred.

So if there is anything I can ever do for you that doesn't cost money or require a large sacrificial effort on my part let me know. bigsmile

Ladylid2012's photo
Sun 07/12/09 02:47 PM


I think I keep on believing in me and you and all sentient beings, that seems to be working for me.:smile:


Exactly.

We should be Gods and Goddesses for each other. All humans are sacred.

So if there is anything I can ever do for you that doesn't cost money or require a large sacrificial effort on my part let me know. bigsmile



AWWWWWW thats so nice, however I have all I need except money and things that take large sacrificial effort from others....laugh
I think I'll kill a chicken and cook it on the rocks around the fire pit, hot enough, oh yeah I don't eat meat.slaphead I'll look into Satanism another day. whoa
Peace Abra

TBRich's photo
Tue 07/14/09 12:54 PM
JCS and G-dspell were both deemed inappropriate by the Church, even though they were based solely on the Gospels, unlike the Passion which was based on the visions of a woman that the Church expelled. The reason for this is that the Church deemed that the imaginary showing a risen Christ was not enough to inform people that "Christ has died, Christ has risen, Christ will come again". For this sole reason the plays and movies were attacked as blasphemous.

no photo
Tue 07/14/09 01:01 PM

exactly.

how can you defend your religion when you dont know what it is or what it stands for? how can you condemn others for celebrating their beliefs in their own ways when you yourself have not even taken the time to understand your faith?
its a perfect example that people rule with fear.

believe what i believe and you will go heaven. think of something different and go to hell.

im sorry, but if my immortal soul is going to be damned because i believe or dont believe, i am surely going to find out exactly what it is im selling into before i drink the koolaid


The leaders of christianity are a very dependent lot, they do not want those that follow the christian faith to look too close at it, it's one reason they indoctrinate you young. While they manipulate christianity to control you spiritually and otherwise. Next stop the government and complete control. Don't think they want that? Then one has not been paying attention to the christian right for the past at least 20 years. They loose some ground in some years like in the 70's but they made up for lost time in the 80's, when they were able to convince their followers that hippies and others were evil, and once again now, loosing a bit of ground again. I don't care what people want to believe, maybe it's best that we balance manipulation with enlightenment, until we wake up completely and learn to live by simple common decency and not fantacy and control. I don't see that every happening, we are too brain washed.

I'll be gone, thankfully, before christians rule the world, but I feel sorry for those here when christianity finally does.

Ladylid2012's photo
Tue 07/14/09 02:37 PM
Well the Christians need to let others do their thing and stop pushing beliefs. Everyone gets to do their own thing, or should get to. I'm tired of rich, white, religious, old men running this country.
The movie Bruno just got banned in the county in Utah that I live in. There are alot of us here that are pissed about censorship, however there are more unlike us here. So.....
Live and live I say, to each his own.:heart: :smile:
Now I have to drive over an hour north to see the movie... grumble

Redykeulous's photo
Tue 07/14/09 07:49 PM
WOW - Y E A - blast from the past. Way to get me singing.

Who doesn't love this one:

Everything's Alright lyrics
MARY MAGDALENE Try not to get worried, try not to turn on to
Problems that upset you, oh.
Don't you know
Everything's alright, yes, everything's fine.
And we want you to sleep well tonight.
Let the world turn without you tonight.
If we try, we'll get by, so forget all about us tonight
APOSTLES' WIVES Everythings alright, yes, everything's alright, yes.
MARY MAGDALENE Sleep and I shall soothe you, calm you, and anoint you...
Myrrh for your hot forehead, oh.
Then you'll feel
Everything's alright, yes, everything's fine.
And it's cool, and the ointment's sweet
For the fire in your head and feet.
Close your eyes, close your eyes
And relax, think of nothing tonight.
APOSTLES' WIVES Everything's alright, yes, everything's alright, yes.
JUDAS Woman your fine ointment, brand new and expensive
Could have been saved for the poor.
Why has it been wasted? We could have raised maybe
Three hundred silver pieces or more.
People who are hungry, people who are starving
Matter more than your feet and hair
MARY MAGDALENE Try not to get worried, try not to turn on to
Problems that upset you, oh.
Don't you know
Everything's alright, yes, everything's fine.
And we want you to sleep well tonight.
Let the world turn without you tonight.
If we try, we'll get by, so forget all about us tonight.
APOSTLES' WIVES Everything's alright, yes, everything's alright, yes.
JESUS Surely you're not saying we have the resources
To save the poor from their lot?
There will be poor always, pathetically struggling.
Look at the good things you've got.
Think while you still have me!
Move while you still see me!
You'll be lost, you'll be so so sorry when I'm gone.
MARY MAGDALENE Sleep and I shall soothe you, calm you and anoint you...
Myrrh for your hot forehead, oh.
Then you'll feel
Everything's alright, yes, everything's fine.
And it's cool and the ointment's sweet
For the fire in your head and feet.
Close your eyes, close your eyes, and relax...[improvised ending]
APOSTLES' WIVES Everything's alright, yes, everything's alright, yes.

Redykeulous's photo
Tue 07/14/09 07:52 PM
Of course no one who lived through the 70's can ever forget the great theme song:

Tell me what you think
About your friends at the top
Now who d'you think besides yourself
Was the pick of the crop?
Buddah was he where it's at?
Is he where you are?
Could Muhammmed move a mountain
Or was that just PR?
Did you mean to die like that?
Was that a mistake or
Did you know your messy death
Would be a record breaker?

Don't you get me wrong Don't you get me wrong
Don't you get me wrong, now Don't you get me wrong
Don't you get me wrong Don't you get me wrong
Don't you get me wrong, now Don't you get me wrong

Only want to know Only want to know
Only want to know, now Only want to know
Only want to know Only want to know
Only want to know, now I only want to know

Jesus Christ
Jesus Christ
Who are you? What have you sacrificed?
Jesus Christ
Jesus Christ
Who are you? What have you sacrificed?
Jesus Christ
Superstar
Do you think you're what they say you are?
Jesus Christ
Superstar
Do you think you're what they say you are?

Jesus Christ
Jesus Christ
Who are you? What have you sacrificed?
Jesus Christ
Jesus Christ
Who are you? What have you sacrificed?
Jesus Christ
Superstar
Do you think you're what they say you are?

Redykeulous's photo
Tue 07/14/09 07:55 PM
Ah, but alas, Jesus Christ Superstar finally took a back seat to a much better cult classic.

ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW.

Dam it Janet I love you..


I'm just a sweet transvestite - from trans-sexual transylvania....

OH my - I just love these trips down memory lane.

In the words of another (classic)
THANKS FOR THE MEMORIES...

Winx's photo
Tue 07/14/09 08:13 PM

Ah, but alas, Jesus Christ Superstar finally took a back seat to a much better cult classic.

ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW.

Dam it Janet I love you..


I'm just a sweet transvestite - from trans-sexual transylvania....

OH my - I just love these trips down memory lane.

In the words of another (classic)
THANKS FOR THE MEMORIES...



I have seen Rocky Horror quite a few times.laugh I had album too. Good music. I have the movie of it now.

I have noticed that when they mention all of the movies that Susan Susan Sarandon has been in, they never mention Rocky Horror.laugh

Winx's photo
Tue 07/14/09 08:15 PM

Well the Christians need to let others do their thing and stop pushing beliefs. Everyone gets to do their own thing, or should get to. I'm tired of rich, white, religious, old men running this country.
The movie Bruno just got banned in the county in Utah that I live in. There are alot of us here that are pissed about censorship, however there are more unlike us here. So.....
Live and live I say, to each his own.:heart: :smile:
Now I have to drive over an hour north to see the movie... grumble


I'm a Christian and I agree with what you are saying. I believe that church and state should be separate. It scares me to think that religious fundamentalist fanatics try to run this country.

I can't believe that you had a movie banned.frustrated

Abracadabra's photo
Wed 07/15/09 02:22 PM
Edited by Abracadabra on Wed 07/15/09 02:26 PM

I'll be gone, thankfully, before christians rule the world, but I feel sorry for those here when christianity finally does.


Oh you don't need to worry about that. Christianity already died as a credible religoin. All that's left today is the ghost of it's dead dragon.

The radicals who make a lot of noise in the name of Christian fundamentalism don't have the following and support that they'd like you to believe. Yes, it's true they are doing a lot of underhanded things to try to incite people into bigotry in the name of Jesus, but they aren't truly succeeding.

Most people who call themselves Christians today aren't dumb enough to fall for that. In fact most people who call themselves Christians don't even attend church or support churches. Or when they do it's more in the spirit of local social services rather than to back radical Christian fundamentalism.

I read that the fastest growing religion on Planet Earth today is "Designer Christianity".

What does this mean? It actually means that Christians are renoucing "Chruchianity" at an ever increasting rate and deciding to just have a "personal walk with Jesus".

In fact, the very word "Chruchianity" is a word that came into being by Designer Christians (people who reject the official churches and decide to just have a personal walk with Jesus).

So Christianity as an official organized religion is rapidly deteriorating and giving way to a new concept often called "Designer Christianity".

It's called "Designer Christainity", or sometimes "Salad Bar Christianty", because it's about people who have become fed up with the bigotry of the churches and the organized religion and have decided to just have a personal walk with Jesus. They aren't interested in all the details of the whole Bible. In fact most of them accept evolution as a fact, and have no problem with Gays.

They TRUST IN JESUS and don't judge others.

They reject the church and embrace Jesus.

So that's what's happening with Christiainity today. It's going through a metamorphosis where the church is dying and the members are protesting against the church (once again) and going off to just worship Jesus in their own way.

It's kind of like Protestants rebelling against Protestanism. Which was inevitable anyway. They never did like the idea of anyone speaking for Jesus. That's why the rebelled against the organized Catholic Church. Now they're rebelling against their own protestant churches. They just don't like the idea of churches. :wink:

Give it another generation or two and there will be no such thing as an 'organized' Christian religion.

After all, it wasn't that many generations ago we were riding in stage coaches shooting at savage indians. Look how far we've come in those few generations. What was it? A mere hundred years?

Christianity may not even be remembered a mere hundred years from now. The only reason it made it through the dark ages is because it was the CAUSE of the dark ages. whoa


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Wed 07/15/09 03:51 PM


Well the Christians need to let others do their thing and stop pushing beliefs. Everyone gets to do their own thing, or should get to. I'm tired of rich, white, religious, old men running this country.
The movie Bruno just got banned in the county in Utah that I live in. There are alot of us here that are pissed about censorship, however there are more unlike us here. So.....
Live and live I say, to each his own.:heart: :smile:
Now I have to drive over an hour north to see the movie... grumble


I'm a Christian and I agree with what you are saying. I believe that church and state should be separate. It scares me to think that religious fundamentalist fanatics try to run this country.

I can't believe that you had a movie banned.frustrated


I know my community is ultra conservative, even that caught me off guard.grumble

EquusDancer's photo
Thu 07/16/09 10:12 AM

I think I keep on believing in me and you and all sentient beings, that seems to be working for me.:smile: Even on the challenging days. When I look into satan, maybe I'll kill a chicken or something..indifferent


I prefer my chickens alive, rather then sacrificed. Doves, and bulls too, and the OT groupies were big on their sacrificing.

The Satan of the Bible is ridiculous. However, I did read, and enjoy The Satanic Bible by LaVey, and found it made a heck of a lot more sense with far less the hypocrisy.

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Fri 07/17/09 12:07 PM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Fri 07/17/09 12:08 PM
People will vilify and add a political slant whenever they feel there agenda can be forwarded.

Its just funny as all get out when it seems as clueless as this example haha.

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