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I do know that an overdose of vicodin will stop the heart your breathing just slows down until you just don't inhale and the heart stops don't ask me how I know oh alright I saw it on House 
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that would go against patient confidentiality to share medical info like that But the pharmacists would notice. There ought to be a way for them to report something like that. no, the people that are going to use different doctors are going to use different pharmacies. depending on the level of the narcotic...or the "schedule" of the drug, only certain numbers of pills can be written, so if they get a script filled at one pharmacy and get another script, they just go to another pharmacy. They have to have the central data base that every pharmacy has access too, like they do in MI. That way the pharmacist can look up all scripts filled for that person in that state. It is not fool proof, but it has helped a lot!! Acetaminophen overdose will kill you as well...the liver will shut down and then your heart will stop too... |
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They can subpoena the medical records and get them no problem.
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Edited by
auburngirl
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Tue 06/30/09 06:01 PM
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Morphine and the variables of it, are known for causing arrest in people with a pre existing problem. When they gave it to my Dad to intubate him, he coded, three times, but he had CHF. When they gave it to my husband during a scope procedure to relax his gag reflex, he coded, but his heart was weakened by the chemo.
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when doctors share information the patient has to sign a release authorizing it they can't even disclose information to your insurance without a release signed by the patient True, but don't you think there are doctors that don't go by the rules? |
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I coded a couple of months ago
but I was asleep and missed all the excitement I had a cool dream though I was getting dressed up to go somewhere and putting on my dress boots. When I stood up I realized I was in a hospital gown and thought "oh, I'm not going anywhere" and then I woke up in cardio ICU |
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when doctors share information the patient has to sign a release authorizing it they can't even disclose information to your insurance without a release signed by the patient True, but don't you think there are doctors that don't go by the rules? The records can be subpoenaed. |
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Edited by
lighthouselover
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Tue 06/30/09 06:10 PM
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opioids/opiates/narcotics...can cause respiratory depression in some people. and it does not always have to be in a high dose either.... generally speaking, the people that this happens most often in are the ones who are not used to taking them...people who use them regularly can build up a tolerance to the side effect...although, this does not mean it cannot happen to them. there is medication that can reverse the negative effect of respiratory depression as well... at any rate, in a few weeks when the autopsy comes back, it will tell them exactly what drugs and the levels of those drugs that were in his system. |
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I'm betting he had the same doctor Anna Nicole had.
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Narcan can be used to reverse arrest, if used immediately. But even it doesn't always work.
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when doctors share information the patient has to sign a release authorizing it they can't even disclose information to your insurance without a release signed by the patient True, but don't you think there are doctors that don't go by the rules? The records can be subpoenaed. I know they can. I just have a feeling he probably went to whoever would prescribe them to him. I had a family member who did the same thing and unfortunately died this way. I know there are doctors who think they are above the law. I could be wrong in MJ's case. |
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when doctors share information the patient has to sign a release authorizing it they can't even disclose information to your insurance without a release signed by the patient True, but don't you think there are doctors that don't go by the rules? The records can be subpoenaed. I know they can. I just have a feeling he probably went to whoever would prescribe them to him. I had a family member who did the same thing and unfortunately died this way. I know there are doctors who think they are above the law. I could be wrong in MJ's case. Then they can be held in contempt of court and penalized accordingly. |
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OR...it could be a case of multiple docs. The right hand not knowing what the left hand was doing, kind of thing.
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Narcan can be used to reverse arrest, if used immediately. But even it doesn't always work. narcan can be used to reverse the respiratory depression which will result in cardiac arrest if not resolved...as far as I can remember from my nursing days... |
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That's right.
 But it doesn't always work. 
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I know that narcotics are tracked here as well. Every single prescription is tracked...and put in a paharnmaceutical database, shared by all to keep track. Keeping patients from over buying and cheating by using several Drs. I would hate for them to come looking in my house for scripts. They would find stuff I have long forgot about. It was about a year ago I finally went through my never used meds and threw them away. And I did it when we moved as well. I never realized how many really "good" drugs I had til I started throwing them away. Wow. Shoulda thought about selling them. lol Not...but could have made a small mint. If you looked in some of the crap I had...you would think me to have a drug problem too. Not saying he didn't...but I don't...it would sure be hard to prove it in a court of law. Just made up my mind...my next few days off...I am finding the ones I dont need again and getting rid of them. Don't need anymore problems......again. Kat Kat, this one instance I'm speaking of was clearly a drug seeker. Docs prescribing hundreds of pills over a span of many months. Overlapping prescriptions....that sort of thing. Nothing like you having a few bottles of pills that are outdated lying around. The only thing the red flag did was to alert the doc not to prescribe anymore and pin down the person to using only one physician for narcotics. It put the ball in the doctor's court, making them accountable for keeping track of this guy's med history. Although it's not a bad idea to get rid of that kind of stuff so that an accident doesn't occur. |
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Narcan can be used to reverse arrest, if used immediately. But even it doesn't always work. narcan can be used to reverse the respiratory depression which will result in cardiac arrest if not resolved...as far as I can remember from my nursing days... yep
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there also could be a confidentiality number assigned nationwide used to be able to buy controlled substances (i didn't just say that did i) ADJ!!!! 
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That's right. But it doesn't always work.
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there also could be a confidentiality number assigned nationwide used to be able to buy controlled substances (i didn't just say that did i) ADJ!!!!
it took long enough to be noticed 
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