Topic: I'm Sorry For His Death, But....
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Mon 06/29/09 02:31 PM

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Mon 06/29/09 02:32 PM
rofl rofl rofl

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Mon 06/29/09 02:34 PM
None of us really know what is true and what isnt.

But we all have an opinion.

One of the things about this that annoys me, is anyone telling me im not allowed to have one. If i want to say that i believe he was guilty, then that is my right. I can say anything i choose. Nobody has to like what i say.

I dont understand the thing about having to respect the dead either. I dont believe that there is a rule about this. Maybe in the Bible there is something to say that. But that is not my rule book.

The most annoying thing is when people tell me that the jokes arent funny. Oh yes they are. If they arent funny to you, then thats fine. But if i find them funny, then they are funny, if only to me.

We dont have to agree on anything, but an opinion is an opinion, and a joke is a joke. And i don't think anyone can really argue with that.


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Mon 06/29/09 02:35 PM
drinker

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Mon 06/29/09 02:36 PM
This entire thread, I've provided documented facts that can be studied at your own leisure. I have also asked you repeatedly to show me any evidence....even just one SHRED of ironclad proof of Michael's guilt. You have not provided that, because you can't. All you've offered are excuses and speculation, or answers of "whatever" because you have no argument, and no proof.

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Mon 06/29/09 02:37 PM
Heyyy Diddle diddle...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr8EfSvIeNo

Kiddies, kittiess... whatever.

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Mon 06/29/09 02:38 PM
oh my touchy laugh

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Mon 06/29/09 02:38 PM

Yes. Documented facts.

What's your excuse?

drinker :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: drinker

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Mon 06/29/09 02:39 PM
Edited by Winx on Mon 06/29/09 02:39 PM




:smile: The 94 accuser is saying that he lied and the 2005 accuser was proven to be lying in court:smile:


I wish he would have admitted to the lie when MJ was alive.:angry:


:smile: He should have to pay back that money to MJs kids.:smile:


That's a good idea.happy

Include the lawyer's fees too.


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Mon 06/29/09 02:39 PM

This entire thread, I've provided documented facts that can be studied at your own leisure. I have also asked you repeatedly to show me any evidence....even just one SHRED of ironclad proof of Michael's guilt. You have not provided that, because you can't. All you've offered are excuses and speculation, or answers of "whatever" because you have no argument, and no proof.

:smile:
:thumbsup:

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Mon 06/29/09 02:39 PM

oh my touchy laugh


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Mon 06/29/09 02:40 PM
rofl ^^^^^rofl

u are adorable winking

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Mon 06/29/09 02:47 PM
blushing smooched

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Mon 06/29/09 02:51 PM

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Mon 06/29/09 02:51 PM
hey earthy we're wanted over at facial feature!

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Mon 06/29/09 02:57 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Mon 06/29/09 02:58 PM
waving buh byewaving

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Mon 06/29/09 02:58 PM


Never mind... it just goes in a circle I guess... lol

That was not the point of my post. It's not about MJ. It's about the silliness given to a celebrity death over the death of someone else.




silliness? interesting. so, the point of your post is about what you have labeled as silliness. alright. I am being a bit facetious here...sorry. I understand what you are saying



Where was the TRIBUTE to the doctors who made breakthroughs in medicine when they passed? I am sure what they did was much more important than entertainment.

Or the scientists that helped man reach the moon and other extraordinary discoveries? Isn't that a global occurrence that everyone benefited from?




there have been many tributes to many scientists, doctors, nurses, teachers, saints, popes, religious leaders, presidents, etc. I watch them all the time on TV...I read about them in books and on the internet...

honestly, people have a stronger reaction when something is emotional to them. you know that. people are tied to certain things that bring back memories...and that person/celebrity was part of that...they might equate that to a kind of 'death' of part of their own childhood...

really, it doesn't bother me...it is an interesting sociological study in human behavior. the reasons will be endless and as varied as the people who would answer the survey, no?



I am not knocking your feelings for celebrities. Fans are fans; no one should try to take that away from them. I just can't see crying and getting so worked up for someone I never knew. I liked his music, I like Billy Mays even! Ed McMahon made me laugh, and Farrah introduced me to boyhood fantasy. I was a big John Wayne fan, Stevie Rae Vaughn fan, Vincent Price fan, even liked Elvis and John Lennon. But my world did not collapse and stop when they died.

When I heard the news they passed, I paused, reflected a little, said a silent prayer, and went on with my day. I can't see crying, leaving work, taking a day off from work, and just wanting to be left alone because someone who I never met and who was not concerned about me, a celebrity, passed away.


how many people did have their world end when one of these people died? how many people took the day off? how many people just did the same thing you did?

What is the right way to handle the death of someone? anyone? is there a way to handle the death of someone you have not met, yet was a major influence in your life vs. a family member who did not influence you? the "norm" of grief reaction? (something I am very familiar with, and the subject of my book.)

the 'argument' is one of human behavior and a sociological phenomenon. great scholars have studied human behavior for years...and still have great debates about it.

It could be something as simple as the 'crowd mentality'. people have a desire, a need to belong...and some person that brings people together under a common theme...they can yield a lot of power, no?


It's not that I don't like celebrities. I appreciate that they worked and sacrificed to get where they are. But without people, they wouldn't be on that pedestal.

People touch our lives everyday with their music, their acting, their literary works, but I feel that without us, they wouldn't be who they are.

Okay, sitting in a comfortable chair waiting to get slammed by rebuttals again.... waving




yes, it does go 'round and 'round....:smile:

You can look at it as simple logic; the larger the number of people that know someone, the larger the number of people that will react to that person.

it also sounds to me (just a bit perhaps) that you think this is another instance where the world/life is not fair.

and by now, you and I both know that life is not fair. period.

why do you take any rebuttal as "being slammed"? interesting...







Back on page 5...where the OP and I were having a discussion about the topic of this thread, there was a couple of posts about the topic.

The topic of the thread has nothing to do with whether or not MJ did or did not do anything with children.

so, bored as some of you may or may not be with your back and forth, that had nothing to do with the topic of the thread.


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Mon 06/29/09 03:03 PM
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Mon 06/29/09 03:08 PM

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Mon 06/29/09 03:11 PM
oh stop trying to get back on topic will ya tears