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The environment has become the argument to replace "won't someone think of the children" argument. Just say ot is about the environment and no one thinks anything bad about it. ...Liberals ALWAYS use children as a means to get their agenda through...afterall...who wants to deny the children...but...when it comes to abortion...they don't give a fugg... Both sides use children to further their agenda. Please!!!!! And by the way when you can suffer through pregnency and pop a kid out the end of your weeny, then we'll have a discussion. can't help but snicker at this I have no patience for men discussing abortion, when they aren't the ones carrying till birth and most times have little to do with the care afterwords. I thought if I used anything but weeny it would be censored.. Now if men want to take over after birth and but up all night and all day caring for the child, we can come to an agreement of sorts but not until then. <------ raised 6 kids mostly alone... 3 blood, 1 adopted (his mother was killed by a drug dealer. She had given me custody of him which held in court), 2 fostered (I took them and their mother off the street, sleeping in their car in the snow. When their mother became disabled, I raised them.) Do I qualify boo? |
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The environment has become the argument to replace "won't someone think of the children" argument. Just say ot is about the environment and no one thinks anything bad about it. ...Liberals ALWAYS use children as a means to get their agenda through...afterall...who wants to deny the children...but...when it comes to abortion...they don't give a fugg... Both sides use children to further their agenda. Please!!!!! And by the way when you can suffer through pregnency and pop a kid out the end of your weeny, then we'll have a discussion. When you can (without science) make a baby without my weeny... then you can snap at me for not being designed to do your job. |
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(Newser) – The cap-and-trade climate legislation that could come up for a House vote tomorrow makes no economic sense and “is likely to be the biggest tax in American history,” write the editors of the Wall Street Journal. Democrats are defending the bill with an incomplete Congressional Budget Office estimate that itself admits “does not indicate the potential decrease in gross domestic product.” And that will be disastrous. “The hit to GDP is the real threat in this bill,” the Journal continues. “Higher prices will show up not just in electricity bills or at the gas station but in every manufactured good,” and companies will be forced to move manufacturing overseas. “The reality is that cost estimates for climate legislation are as unreliable as the models predicting climate change;” the bill will result in thousands of dollars of carbon taxes for every American family. “Even Democrats can’t repeal that reality.” Source: Wall Street Journal **************************** My co op keeps sending me info that my electric bill will increase almost 40% if this legislation is enacted as it now stands. With this passing through the House,do you think the Senate will pass it? I saw on MSNBC last week, that it could cost the average family another $1500/year. There is no doubt that it will send more manufacturers overseas. I wonder how many people are even aware of this since Michael Jackson has been the only thing on the news. |
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it seems to me the free inventive spirit has solved the problems of of energy and pollution long ago. google documentaries like who killed the electric car, or google late inventor stanley meyers. or the geet processor. todays technologies have far surpassed these older technologies. the environmental movement has been hijacked by you guessed it, the new world order. bringing you scams like ethanol and carbon taxes, they have been building expensive hydrogen infrastructure for refueling cars so they can charge us for it by volume. charge us for hydrogen? are you out of your mind? clean air tax? how about some real solutions, ones that create a few jobs rather than destroy millions of jobs and do nothing for the environment. ethanol is a TOTAL SCAM to the people, with its 10year 50% subsidy rate, and the fact that it takes 1.3 gallons of gasoline to produce 1 gallon of ethanol and deliver it to the pump. thats a 30% loss in fuel compounded by the fact that we are now burning both substances means you are polluting 130% more. would have been better off just burning the gasoline in the first place. plus ethanol burns dirtier than regular unleaded due to its low octane 85. you cant pipe ethanol it degrades it, have to truck it all. now take into account that we are now attaching our food prices to our energy prices which is not good. stop buying all the bs people, there are people watching out. i post this message because there is a war going on for your mind infowars.com or prisonplanet.net
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it seems to me the free inventive spirit has solved the problems of of energy and pollution long ago. google documentaries like who killed the electric car, or google late inventor stanley meyers. or the geet processor. todays technologies have far surpassed these older technologies. the environmental movement has been hijacked by you guessed it, the new world order. bringing you scams like ethanol and carbon taxes, they have been building expensive hydrogen infrastructure for refueling cars so they can charge us for it by volume. charge us for hydrogen? are you out of your mind? clean air tax? how about some real solutions, ones that create a few jobs rather than destroy millions of jobs and do nothing for the environment. ethanol is a TOTAL SCAM to the people, with its 10year 50% subsidy rate, and the fact that it takes 1.3 gallons of gasoline to produce 1 gallon of ethanol and deliver it to the pump. thats a 30% loss in fuel compounded by the fact that we are now burning both substances means you are polluting 130% more. would have been better off just burning the gasoline in the first place. plus ethanol burns dirtier than regular unleaded due to its low octane 85. you cant pipe ethanol it degrades it, have to truck it all. now take into account that we are now attaching our food prices to our energy prices which is not good. stop buying all the bs people, there are people watching out. i post this message because there is a war going on for your mind infowars.com or prisonplanet.net There are many better alternatives out there, but they may never see the light of day because governments and large corporations cannot make enough money off of them. |
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The environment has become the argument to replace "won't someone think of the children" argument. Just say ot is about the environment and no one thinks anything bad about it. ...Liberals ALWAYS use children as a means to get their agenda through...afterall...who wants to deny the children...but...when it comes to abortion...they don't give a fugg... Both sides use children to further their agenda. Please!!!!! And by the way when you can suffer through pregnency and pop a kid out the end of your weeny, then we'll have a discussion. can't help but snicker at this I have no patience for men discussing abortion, when they aren't the ones carrying till birth and most times have little to do with the care afterwords. I thought if I used anything but weeny it would be censored.. Now if men want to take over after birth and but up all night and all day caring for the child, we can come to an agreement of sorts but not until then. One man who would do that right here. |
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At least one talking head gets it.
Buchanan: Climate Bill Is Transfer Of Wealth To World Government Former presidential advisor slams fearmongering that led to passage of nightmare legislation Paul Joseph Watson Prison Planet.com Monday, June 29, 2009 During an appearance on MSNBC, political commentator Pat Buchanan correctly defined the “Climate Bill” for what it really is, not just a new tax on the American people, but a complete transfer of power and wealth to a global government that is using the manufactured fear of global warming to grease the skids for total domination. Referring to the passage of the climate bill and global warming in general, Buchanan said that the legislation was passed through the use of fear and that, “More and more scientists are coming forward to say this is a hoax and a scam which is designed to transfer wealth and power from the private sector to the government sector and from the government of the United States to a world government. Which is what we’re going to get in Copenhagen when we get this Kyoto two agreement.” Buchanan labeled the legislation a “tax bill” that would raise the prices of utilities for every American, hammer the middle class and working class, “for a danger that we don’t even know is really there”. The former senior advisor to three U.S. presidents accused the Obama administration of hyping the apocalyptic myth that the oceans will rise and that cities will be underwater in order to ram through the legislation. Establishment left-wing blogs like Crooks and Liars and Media Matters are carrying the video of Buchanan’s remarks with little or no accompanying commentary, as if Buchanan’s comments alone are enough to discredit his position. Those who act as shills for the climate change hoax may believe that anyone who dares challenge the authodoxy of the church of global warming is automatically a heretic and that no evidence whatsoever needs to even be presented to counter their sacrilege, but here in the real world we prefer to stick to the facts. Empirical satellite data shows that mean global temperatures are the same that they were 30 years ago and that global sea ice is also at similar levels. Following a spike in global temperatures at the end of the last century that coincided with the sun undergoing its most active period in recent times, the planet has now cooled to 1979 levels. At the end of summer last year, despite hysterical predictions that the North Pole would be free of ice for the first time in history, Arctic sea ice had actually expanded by 30 per cent, an area the size of Germany. Coinciding with expanding ice sheets, there has been no rise in sea levels for the past three years. Tropical storms and extreme weather events attributed to global warming like hurricanes and typhoons are at a record low. The United Nations’s IPCC, the heavily politicized organization that is often erroneously cited as an independent scientific body by climate change promoters, was last year caught citing fake data to make the case that global warming is accelerating, a shocking example of mass public deception. “This was startling,” reported the London Telegraph. “Across the world there were reports of unseasonal snow and plummeting temperatures last month, from the American Great Plains to China, and from the Alps to New Zealand. China’s official news agency reported that Tibet had suffered its “worst snowstorm ever”. In the US, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration registered 63 local snowfall records and 115 lowest-ever temperatures for the month, and ranked it as only the 70th-warmest October in 114 years.” It soon came to light that the data produced by NASA to make the claim, and in particular temperature records covering large areas of Russia, was merely carried over from the previous month. NASA had used temperature records from the naturally hotter month of September and claimed they represented temperature figures for October. As David Deming points out in his excellent article today, temperature data collected by weather stations is being artificially impacted by measuring systems placed nearby to sources of heat. This is why claims that global temperatures are still rising are completely contradicted by real world evidence of falling temperatures and what some scientists are warning is the beginning of a new ice age. “Why do people think the planet is warming?,” writes Deming. “One reason is that the temperature data from weather stations appear to be hopelessly contaminated by urban heat effects. A survey of the 1221 temperature stations in the US by meteorologist Anthony Watts and his colleagues is now more than 80 percent complete. The magnitude of putative global warming over the last 150 years is about 0.7 °C. But only 9 percent of meteorological stations in the US are likely to have temperature errors lower than 1 °C. More than two-thirds of temperature sensors used to estimate global warming are located near artificial heating sources such as air conditioning vents, asphalt paving, or buildings. These sources are likely to introduce artifacts greater than 2 °C into the temperature record.” “Every year in the US, more than forty thousand people are killed in traffic accidents. But not one single person has ever been killed by global warming. The number of species that have gone extinct from global warming is exactly zero. Both the Antarctic and Greenland Ice Sheets are stable. The polar bear population is increasing. There has been no increase in infectious disease that can be attributed to climate change. We are not currently experiencing more floods, droughts, or forest fires,” he concludes. As we have attempted to warn, the major beneficiaries of the climate bill will be the elitists who own the carbon trading systems that will be used to handle the ‘cap and trade’ program, namely Al Gore and Maurice Strong, two figures intimately involved with a long standing movement to use the theory of man made global warming as a mechanism for profit and social engineering. Gore’s investment company, Generation Investment Management, which sells carbon offset opportunities, is the largest shareholder of The Chicago Climate Exchange (CCX). While Maurice Strong, who is regularly credited as founding father of the modern environmental movement, serves on the board of directors of CCX. Strong was a leading initiate of the Earth Summit in the early 90s, where the theory of global warming caused by CO2 generated by human activity was most notably advanced. Watch the clip of Buchanan’s comments below. http://www.prisonplanet.com/buchanan-climate-bill-is-transfer-of-wealth-to-world-government.html |
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