Kat those purchases, comments posted, etc, things that I can control, I can do just that control them. Stop using credit/debit, stop using internet. One thing I cannot change about me is my genetic profile, so I would appreciate it if me and my DNA be left well alone enough - may never happen, maybe I am grasping, venting, blurting, whatever the case. I will give them my DNA when they give me theirs. afterall I trust them just about as much if not more than they trust me

37 years ago I was busted for 2 pot seeds in a baggie sitting on a lawn chair close to me. They couldn't prove they were mine (or anyone elses) but I was charged with a felony for possession (as was everyone at the party).

Now there are myself and around 2 dozen other people from that day who have felony records (pot was a felony then, a misdemeanor now) and all the restrictions that accompany one.

I recent sought to have this removed from my record (after 37 yrs) and this is what I was told.....

1. I would have to return to the jurisdiction of the arrest (over 3000 miles away)

2. There were $400 in up front fees, and regardless of the outcome of the request, another $800 (per charge... we all got multiple charges, most high misdemeanors that day) for having them heard in court and the fees for filing the decisions.

3. I had to be present for all hearings, even if there were no decisions or appearance that day, and if I missed one the case would be dropped and I would be charged the fees regardless. A collection could result if not paid, suspension of my lisence, forfieture of property and a tax lien.

So as I read earlier, you can have your DNA destroyed if you are not charged, they just make it impossible to do so.

This info would all be digitized. The problem is assuming that digital records are flawless. They are not. We all know how efficient and careful our government is. These databases would need to be held in the most secure of facilities physically and virtually. While physical security is trustworthy enough. As an IT person I can tell you the government gets hacked all the time and even if they enacted the strongest of IT security pratices there would still be holes and it would be a big flashing invitation sign to all hackers. The one thing they love is hacking the "un-hackable".

Other things to think about are who will have access to these records? What qualifies someone to have access to these records and what safeguards are taken to control how they are used.

I'm sure I'm not the only who can foresee this database being tied to the new Real ID's. A barcode would represent your record in the database.

But at least with the barcode on my rear, I'd know when I was being scanned

Yes sir...that is unfortunate. I myself carry a felony for a similar thing.

I was in a relationship with a guy who was abusive and an alcoholic and did drugs. The things in his house were mine so after I moved out due to numerous arrest by me and jail for him..I kept going back to get my stuff by being nice to him and taking my stuff little by little while he was at work. One evening I was heading back home almost two hundred miles away, when he asked me to take him to the pawn shop so he could pawn a vcr his parents had given him two years before. He forgot his license, and the pawn guy said I could use mine so I did. I took him to the store to buy food with the twenty dollars he got for it, then took him home. I left.

A few weeks later I went back again to get more of my stuff. While there, the cops pulled in the driveway and kept me outside until he could call in a warrant to enter the house. We went in and he straight for his closet. Pulled out his paper, a pipe, those things you use like scissors ih....what....uh...hemostats, and on his dressor he found some seeds (a few). I had found his pot as well, and was going to put it in th trash to piss him off. Well, the cops wanted me to set people up. I told them I didnt live there and didnt know anyone they didnt know.

He let me go and told me he could get me in a week or a month or a year.

Doug came back to the house just after and he was drunk and I left. He took a company car and found me in another town at a friends house. He broke all my windows out of my car. (this was twice)I had him jailed again. This made at least 5 times.
A year later I get areested, taken to jail and charged with posession, entent, paraphanelia,and (conspiracy to commit false pawn!!)

In a town known for their unfairness and bad cops. I fought his for two years. I wanted a trial, but was told that it would cost up to 10 thousand dollars more. Well, what would you do? I was told without consult with my attorney (he never asked me what happened or nothing) that I had to say guilty and agree with everything the judge said. Or it would go very bad for me.
I took the charge, the fines, the probation, and the restitution.
The law is a tool that is unlike any I have ever seen.

Kat

Oh...I also have the papers here to try and get my charges expunged. I have decided to try another route. The Governor.

Kat

Maybe not, if your date (an undercover agent) likes to give from behind, it might be hard to see if he was secretly scanning you.

because of patient confidentiality....doctors and hospitals can't give out that info without a court order.

I have been finger printed and it's on record when I worked at day cares when I was younger and updated when I went to work for the PD. I didn't mind...I don't plan on committing any crimes

THOMAS!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't plan on committing any crimes either, but knowing that someone else has my info at their disposal and they are able to use or change any of my information at will is not a good feeling.

Those in power have the ability (and have in the past) to corrupt power.

Those with money have the ability (and have in the past) to pay their way out of a jam.

Those arrested - are supposedly innocent until proven guilty - but doggoneit, I keep getting this one wrong.

What if an undetected computer virus randomly changes peoples records. Unbeknown to the nitwits charged with IT sec people's DNA fields are swapped. You find out shockingly one day that you committed mass murder in Alaska. They have DNA evidence to prove it.

true...anything can happen....but they would also have to prove I was there....and don't think the defense wouldn't bring up something is wrong with the computers.

hey we should make a movie about this - oooppps it's been done Minority Report. They charge and arrest you before any crimes are committed on the basis of their analyzations of DNA

Well what if the charges were domestic terrorism? They don't need to arrest you or charge you and they could hold you indefinitely with out legal counsel or just torture you until you confess.

now Thomas....they would do that even without DNA lol.

my governor just signed this today he believes it will be used appropriately. now if only I believed!!!

but good luck to you Kat and SoJourn

this govt sure does make it hard to get things right/corrected. They slow down the process and chg the hell out of you just to dissuade you from moving forward and getting things done.