How would you respond if I insisted that distance was "just a perception' ? How can you prove to me that distance is a 'something' and not a 'nothing' ?

Okay well here's the thing about quantum entanglement. It only works if you observe the simultaneous particle (cat in a box anyone?), but essentially its function is to provide the basis of string theory.

Isn't distance basically a construct of the human mind. Certainly the measurements there of are that. Regardless as to if you use miles of kilometers it's still something that people invented so they would have to tell their friends to stand in this place while I walk over there so I know how big a tree a I need. hahaha

Honestly time is pretty much the same thing. Someone years ago said I want to know how long it take for this to happen. If only I had a way of figuring that out. Then someone stuck a stick in the ground and marked the shadows and we had the sun dial. hahaha

So many things only have meaning because someone gave them meaning.

distance is the same thing, we made a measurement system for it, just as time

time, distance, volumes, just about all measurements are man based perceptions... granted they all can be universal, but perceptions, non the less..

Just because the system of measurement is arbitrary and human-created doesn't mean that the thing being measured doesn't exist.

Consider that the plank distance is a quality of the universe, independent of human ideas or human measuring systems. So we can have a universe-based measuring system built on giving the number, in integers, of plank distances between two locations.

Does a falling tree make a sound if there is no one there to hear it?





You bet your sweet azz it does!

If trees could talk would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might if they scream all the time for no reason.

This has been a deep thought by Jack Handy.

it doesn't exist, literally... they assigned a numeric value to something that isn't there... that being said, time and distance could be the same thing, nothing...

but i never see them saying that a distance can be dilated...

Mighty Moe, distances are compressed at relativistic speeds.

If distance isn't real, how do you explain the fact that you are there and not here?

because i am where i am, nowhere else...distance is just the space between objects, nothing else


and i don't see any compressed distances

Distances and other measurement are more like cutting a given space into fragments into give intervals so you can say that the pumpkin flew through the air 300 yards when it hit the ground. Without the measurement you could still say that you threw the pumpkin using what ever device and that it went really far. You just wouldn't be able to say how far without a point of comparison.

I shot that bird and it was about the same as from where I am at to that tree over there.

Then again that would just be an estimate. But that would be one way of how you could try to explain a distance without a measurement.

to create from nothing... that seems to be a popular theme... god, big bang, now time and distance... should we add a "gallon" or a "ton" in that as well?

You could. When it comes right down it any word only has meaning because we give it meaning. The words we speak are nothing but sound that people learned to give meaning so they could coordinate actions with greater ease. Wiring is nothing but symbols we gave meaning to communicate sometimes in secrete without speaking. They are all constructs of the human brain.

yes, a mathematical value, thats all they are

How, then, do you express the phenomenon of traveling from place to place? How about getting older? Measurements of time, distance, weight, volume, or anything that differs by varying degrees are the means we use to express the phenomena we observe. Without those expressions communication of those observations would be very difficult.

however you want, it's not about how we express it, it's about time being a perception, no physical matter or energy to dilate

I got here by moving from over there to over here. Question answerd. hahaha

Ok. Now here's what you do. You travel down this road for a while untill you see the crazy guy on the porch with a shotgun. Don't look at him or he'll take it as a threat. Turn left and walk for a bit unless you hear the click of the gun then run for your life. When you get to the potato that looks like Nixon you've gone to far. Turn around and look for a tree that smells like Cher's arm pit. That's where the treasure is buried. lol

I just gave two examples of how to express directions without using measurements. hahaha

Time and distance are independent of conceptualization because they are physical dimensions, meaning an objective reality, or that which can be measured by any system, expressed in any language, and by more than one observer.

If you are simply using a different language than another for the same expression or measurement, then you are simply speaking different languages, not independently speaking about nothing worth hearing.

Actually, you merely used a different system of measurement by providing reference points and estimates of time such as "a bit", "until", and "when you get to".