No, no, no...

How about the women who spread their legs for scum like him and get pregnant? It takes two to have a baby...!

What happened to get married, live for a few years together and then start a family. I graduated high school in 1990 and we had one, count them, ONE! girl who got pregnant in the 12th grade and she had an abortion. Everything's changed in the last two freakin' decades...

Every young girl is either pregnant, or already has a baby or two by the time they are 17...! WTF? What happened to good parenting? Who decided one day that it was ok for teens to have babies before marriage?

I'm not looking at this from a religious point of view as I'm an atheist, I'm looking at it from a socio-economic standpoint and also I believe it's a moral issue, not having anything to do with God or religion.

It's just a shame all these babies being born without a good role model, not having a decent father figure to look up to, and with mothers who are on welfare or still dependant on THEIR parents...!

...for shame.

So I say penalize those 11 noodle brained women too, who picked that loser as the ideal mate to have a baby or two with...!

Also, I'd like to send a shout out to my new bestest friend, Quiet...!

I'm here for you buddy, if you ever wanna talk!

didnt you know that its always the mens fault? lol

Nope. Not in my book. There's just no excuse for having 21 children with as many as 11 women spread around an entire city. They, (both the "father" and "mothers") have a complete disregard for actually raising a family. Even if you can pay for all of your kids... slutting around having as many children with as many people as possible is plain irresponsible. It teaches the kids NO values what so ever. You can't be a father to that many children in that many different homes. And what about all of the kids' half siblings?? How are they supposed to have a relationship with their siblings, all 21 of them with all sorts of different mothers??

I've been blaming the women too for this whole thread.

what if it's another mass murderer?

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Thank you Jill...!

The issue I have with anti-abortionists who'd like every baby to be saved no matter what is that I believe they should also put some of their time and effort into educating the young kids to have protected sex and not get pregnant out of wedlock.

It's a noble idea to want to save every baby, but what about the quality of life for that baby who will be raised on welfare with one incompetent parent?

The Government decide how many children one
"should" have...??????

So...what you are saying is that it is moral issue not a legal issue???

No one brought up abortion???????

Quality of life???? by who's standards????

who mentioned abortion? and yes....people have been blaming both sides.

mahmahman

Well of course it's a moral issue. It can't be a legal issue because it's not illegal to be an irresponsible moron man whore.

yes the man is an idiot that doesn't think about his actions. thinks with the wrong head....but I'm sorry...I don't see ANY guy so great to keep the sperm donation going. these women are idiots. they have to know about other kids out there.

Ok. It originally seemed to be a discussion of money(child support) and who ultimately pays dollars for the child rearing.

Chemical castration is often used as a means of sterilization among "released" convicted pedophiles. but I believe sterilization is preformed because the "act" of pedophilia is illegal and not immoral.

Oh it's about that too cuz right now WE, as in the tax payers are paying for these women and this man to be slutty and irresponsible. You're talking thousands and thousands of dollars between medical care and food alone.
But it's also a deep moral issue when it involves all of these children and the morons raising them.

Yes, I brought up the subject of abortion... and why not?

We should explore every angle of this issue. Or should we just keep this debate to a simple vote on whether or not that proud Super Dad (who I'm sure is gonna be there for all his 21 kids as they grow up) should be castrated...

Ok, since aparently I'm not allowed to discuss this subject as openly as I would like, I hereby cast my vote and leave this thread...

I vote NO on castration.

Castration should only be performed on multiple sex offenders and pedofiles.
Those women willingly had unprotected sex with that scum and so how about we tie their tubes, ey?

Good luck with the debate, Jill...

castration doesn't always work with sex offenders. theirs is a crime of control and power and sex is just the weapon of choice. without that option...they can use something else.

I still don't see how abortion has anything to do with it. you can't make someone have one just because they can't stop having unprotected sex. castration doesn't work either

now if the tax payers are paying for all of these children though....shouldn't we have a say if they should have more kids? it's our money. now if they can fully take care of these children...then it's none of our business

"I still don't see how abortion has anything to do with it. "

I don't either...



"it's our money."

yes, it is. This is a common theme in today's political environment, yes? Bail outs, millions to Acorn subsidiaries...stimulus to banks.....all these use tax payer dollars and we have no say...and The recipients have little or no accountability ....



tea bag me!!!