So, you have thought that Bush was the dictator?

Check out this Obama, who proposes to detain people for at least 10 years, simply because Obama thinks that these people "may" be a danger to us at some point in the future. No evidence, no courts, no charges.



http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/630.html



Obama gives Memorial Day speech in which he praises the Constitution and simultaneously proposes indefinite imprisonment of those who have committed no crime but who the government thinks will do so in the future. That is a violation of the Constitution.

nothing surprises me any more

I would like to see the speech without her ad-libbing it with her thoughts and movie clips.

Wow, she was gushing sarcasm

Hell yeah, wasn't it funny how Obama tried to say two exactly opposing things at once? It was funny for me. I like watching him, since he is like a snake at all times. Polite and high-moral-road facade, but if you pay attention to what dirt this man is actually saying, you'd think he hadn't brush his teeth for a month!

This man has an inescapable, lingering stench of death attached to him.

I don't have speakers....so it didn't do me any good to watch it. let me guess...flip flopping?

How is it possible not to have speakers. May-be not specifically speakers - speakers, but something that just works that way? There just so many things at home that go Yap. Green hole, try it.

all in storage hon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR8YaR3JEkE


there is his speech in new mexico

he did not mention imprisonment that i noticed but the patriot act does make it a possibility

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script of his speech in Arlington

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/05/25/obamas_memorial_day_speech_at_arlington_96659.html

video of Arlington

http://realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/05/25/obamas_memorial_day_speech_at_arlington.html

In one speech he talks like his administration is actually better than that of Bush. Touches on questionably legal sides to what Bushes team has done and the approaches they took.

The he says ONE TIME that sometimes, it isn't possible to bring any charges (i.e. the person is innocent), because either the bureaucrats have fncked up, or because there was never any evidence, and that those individuals can not be released from git-mo.

What he refers to is the hostages of family members of desired detainee. He wants to torture relatives and friends, spouses, to make someone else talk. Again, he touches on this only once, so if you're not listening, but instead slowly steaming with love to Obama, then you will be sure he was talking about terrorists.

Then he goes on about how it is necessary that not a single person could ever release them, and how it will take practically like two thirds of a country to make them free, by the time Obama is done with the law. He calls that his approach. He says this will be called "oversight", and how many different levels of it there will be to hold a person for 10 years.

This is simply bull****, because now he is simply patching your attention, he has already told you what he wanted to tell, and now no one can say he did it behind our backs.

He is a first class liar, master grade.

This is a cemetery speech. But the speech in question is in archive.

Are you moving? (Hopefully, to Kali).

do you have a link to it

i am not doubting the possibility he said it

but if you have it coming out of his lips that would be hard to deny

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/21/obama-national-archives-s_n_206189.html

here is the speech in question

both in video and in print

i have not had a good study of it yet

but as mentioned the idea is for those that are porven to be in terrorist groups be held as pows indefinitely as pows with regular reviews to their detainment

it is a bit iffy and appears abuse will happen but you can cut bits and pieces of almost any speech to make it say almost anything you want it too

they did pull out a part where obama said those that were charge but got off because of tainted evidence would be subject to this law (need a bit more detail as to what specific crimes are covered)

holding of a final say at this time till further investigation of this speech

Obama will turn out to be just as bad if not worse than any of them

i have no debate against that

i just hope he proves us wrong

wouldn't mind being wrong on that myself. I wanted to give him at least a year before making any judgement but with the way it is going, doesn't look good

When a President speaks is it really him speaking his mind or is it a speech writer who writes what he has to say?

Or could it be a combination of both?

And who tells the speech writers on what to write? Could it be the wealthiest of the wealthy telling them on what to write?

Sometimes I wonder if Presidents and anybody who works for the government are actually speaking their mind.

It sometimes feels like that the people who run any country are actually those who are never seen behind that rectangle shaped object that extracts different colors making us into a zombies staring and believing blindly in whatever it says.

Hogwash. Any President would find themselves in a tough situation. If he detains them, he is a liar and a scoundrel....If he releases them,he is a wimp and a traitor.

This is a complex situation, not easily solved, but very easy to criticize one's actions.

he is the flip flop president. he may say he wil do one thing but will change his mind