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Is anyone knowledgeable in this area?
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Edited by
Thoughtfulthug
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Mon 05/25/09 01:45 PM
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Is anyone knowledgeable in this area? |
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Is anyone knowledgeable in this area? 
Nawwwwwwww, nothing like that...I already have My Guy! |
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what is your interest ? no i do not know every thing ! hugs 3poines
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Is anyone knowledgeable in this area? im part indian(apache) |
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Okay I'm curious what is is your actually looking to find out sure there has to be someone that can help you find out the information you need.
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Edited by
Zazanna
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Mon 05/25/09 02:28 PM
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Do you mind explaining what you are looking for specifically as it relates to their culture? That would be a good starting point. Are you looking for current information as it relates to reservations or their past culture?
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Edited by
shutterbug
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Mon 05/25/09 02:41 PM
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What I was wondering...are there laws concerning a painting that was given to me a couple weeks ago by a Navajo student at school. This Navajo girl, (15 yrs. old) was only at our school about 2 months. The girl did the painting in art class. She and her siblings were taken away from their very alcoholic mother...mom's boyfriend was very abusive to this girl, she is now with a foster family. This girl was/is very fagilely emotional and took a very strong liking to me.
Anyway, she gave me a painting she did in school, personalized it, putting my name all over it. I was honored to accept it from her and proudly display it in our home office. The day before school got out, her case load teacher, (my co-worker), told me I have to return the painting...that it is Navajo tradition/culture. I told her that if I gave it back, it would devastate this girl, not to mention be disrespectful! The teacher asked me to find a way to 'break it' to this girl gently and return on Friday. Friday morning I got into school early and went straight to a school counselor who knows the history of this Navajo girl. I told her what I was told concerning the painting. The counselor was very upset to hear of this and said she doesn't know of any such "law"...that this girl doesn't even know her Navajo culture. Counselor said if anyone says anything to me about it, to send them her way...she too felt I should keep the painting...that the girl thought so much of me to give it to me --- and it would be wrong/disrespectful, to give it back. So later Friday morning the teacher asked what I was going to tell the girl...I told her, "I will tell her NOTHING, I am keeping it!" The teacher said, "I understand, but it's Navajo law Cindy!" I walked away. I almost think the teacher was jealous because I was given the painting and not her. |
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i know nothing
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either way, Navajo law doesnt apply off the reservation
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Edited by
Thoughtfulthug
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Mon 05/25/09 02:49 PM
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What I was wondering...are there laws concerning a painting that was given to me a couple weeks ago by a Navajo student at school. This Navajo girl, (15 yrs. old) was only at our school about 2 months. The girl did the painting in art class. She and her siblings were taken away from their very alcoholic mother...mom's boyfriend was very abusive to this girl, she is now with a foster family. This girl was/is very fagilely emotional and took a very strong liking to me. Anyway, she gave me a painting she did in school, personalized it, putting my name all over it. I was honored to accept it from her and proudly display it in our home office. The day before school got out, her case load teacher, (my co-worker), told me I have to return the painting...that it is Navajo tradition/culture. I told her that if I gave it back, it would devastate this girl, not to mention be disrespectful! The teacher asked me to find a way to 'break it' to this girl gently and return on Friday. Friday morning I got into school early and went straight to a school counselor who knows the history of this Navajo girl. I told her what I was told concerning the painting. The counselor was very upset to hear of this and said she doesn't know of any such "law"...that this girl doesn't even know her Navajo culture. Counselor said if anyone says anything to me about it, to send them her way...she too felt I should keep the painting...that the girl thought so much of me to give it to me --- and it would be wrong/disrespectful, to give it back. So later Friday morning the teacher asked what I was going to tell the girl...I told her, "I will tell her NOTHING, I am keeping it!" The teacher said, "I understand, but it's Navajo law Cindy!" I walked away. I almost think the teacher was jealous because I was given the painting and not her. |
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What I was wondering...are there laws concerning a painting that was given to me a couple weeks ago by a Navajo student at school. This Navajo girl, (15 yrs. old) was only at our school about 2 months. The girl did the painting in art class. She and her siblings were taken away from their very alcoholic mother...mom's boyfriend was very abusive to this girl, she is now with a foster family. This girl was/is very fagilely emotional and took a very strong liking to me. Anyway, she gave me a painting she did in school, personalized it, putting my name all over it. I was honored to accept it from her and proudly display it in our home office. The day before school got out, her case load teacher, (my co-worker), told me I have to return the painting...that it is Navajo tradition/culture. I told her that if I gave it back, it would devastate this girl, not to mention be disrespectful! The teacher asked me to find a way to 'break it' to this girl gently and return on Friday. Friday morning I got into school early and went straight to a school counselor who knows the history of this Navajo girl. I told her what I was told concerning the painting. The counselor was very upset to hear of this and said she doesn't know of any such "law"...that this girl doesn't even know her Navajo culture. Counselor said if anyone says anything to me about it, to send them her way...she too felt I should keep the painting...that the girl thought so much of me to give it to me --- and it would be wrong/disrespectful, to give it back. So later Friday morning the teacher asked what I was going to tell the girl...I told her, "I will tell her NOTHING, I am keeping it!" The teacher said, "I understand, but it's Navajo law Cindy!" I walked away. I almost think the teacher was jealous because I was given the painting and not her. Nope...that won't help...see, she's a 'special needs' student and has no clue of her Navajo culture. |
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Cindy, this girl does not even know her Navajo culture so to me it is a personal thing between this girl and you. I would keep it also since she thinks highly enough of you to give it to you in the first place.
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I dont really understand. Granted this law might be based in some sort of Navajo traditional culture but you say the girl would not be aware of that and she is also special needs. So if she doesn't understand, wouldn't it only hurt her tremendously to return the painting? She gave it to you as a gift and she meant for you to have it. Giving it back will just upset her and open a can of worms.
 Its not as if the mom and boyfriend would know either from what you have described concerning her family situation.
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Cindy, this girl does not even know her Navajo culture so to me it is a personal thing between this girl and you. I would keep it also since she thinks highly enough of you to give it to you in the first place. That's what I think too ((((writer)))), it just pissed me off that the case load teacher was trying to intimidate me with..."It's Navajo Law!!!"...and wanted to make an issue of it. |
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Edited by
shutterbug
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Mon 05/25/09 03:00 PM
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I dont really understand. Granted this law might be based in some sort of Navajo traditional culture but you say the girl would not be aware of that and she is also special needs. So if she doesn't understand, wouldn't it only hurt her tremendously to return the painting? She gave it to you as a gift and she meant for you to have it. Giving it back will just upset her and open a can of worms. Its not as if the mom and boyfriend would know either from what you have described concerning her family situation.
The girl is emotionaly fragile...I know for a fact it would devastate her and I wasn't about to hurt her that way. |
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Who exactly is "enforcing" this law? Thats what I would ask.
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Shutterbug,
Just sent you a e-mail about this and the Dine' (Navajo) culture. |
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I dont really understand. Granted this law might be based in some sort of Navajo traditional culture but you say the girl would not be aware of that and she is also special needs. So if she doesn't understand, wouldn't it only hurt her tremendously to return the painting? She gave it to you as a gift and she meant for you to have it. Giving it back will just upset her and open a can of worms. Its not as if the mom and boyfriend would know either from what you have described concerning her family situation.
The girl is emotionaly fragile...I know for a fact it would devastate her and I wasn't about to hurt her that way. You are too nice a person to do that to such an emotionally fragile little girl. Kudos to you for keeping it! 
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Shutterbug, Just sent you a e-mail about this and the Dine' (Navajo) culture. Thank you ((((Stan))))...that puts my mind at ease! No need to worry about the Navajo Nation coming after me then huh! 
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