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| Topic: Understanding America's Shift on Abortion | |
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when you guys get pregnant...then maybe you would understand it better....especially if the pregnacy occured during the situations I previously listed Right. We are talking apples and oranges until men can get preggers and KNOW what the hell they are talking about...lol |
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all drugs were legal before 1900 as well in the united states does that mean they should be legal now yes ????????? LOL Sure why not. People get them anyway, right? exactly 
But think of all the law enforcement who will lose their job then though  lol
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ok i guess i will go then 
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when you guys get pregnant...then maybe you would understand it better....especially if the pregnacy occured during the situations I previously listed Right. We are talking apples and oranges until men can get preggers and KNOW what the hell they are talking about...lol very true...and to go further...until a woman is in the same situation as another...they can't say clear cut either what they would do |
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I am out too. Have a good day all
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ok i guess i will go then
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when you guys get pregnant...then maybe you would understand it better....especially if the pregnacy occured during the situations I previously listed Right. We are talking apples and oranges until men can get preggers and KNOW what the hell they are talking about...lol very true...and to go further...until a woman is in the same situation as another...they can't say clear cut either what they would do Very true. It is better to leave the decision to the person in that boat and trust they know what is best for themselves. I would think anyway. |
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dragoness...I agree 100%. this issue is NOT clear cut no matter what we think now....until in a certain situation, we don't know.
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Lynann's right. I don't forget what it used to be like. I lived in a college dorm when I was young. There were young girls there and they were afraid and alone and away from home. I remember the attempted hangar abortion and a girl being rushed to the ER. We never saw her again. I, too, would not choose abortion for myself. It's not my place to take that choice away from somebody else though. How old were you at the time? Are you saying you were living in a college dorm at 11 or 12? What?
It did pass federally in 1973. There were still state restrictions ie. in '76 SCOTUS allowed Missouri to allow women under 18 to have them. In '77 the Supreme Court allowed states to exclude elective ones from being performed in hospitals. I went to college near Kansas City, MO. It was known that the girls needed to go to Kansas to do it. There were no facilities available near KC, MO. I think, too, that they needed their parent's permission. Yes, there were 17-old-girls living in that dorm. |
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Lynann's right. I don't forget what it used to be like. I lived in a college dorm when I was young. There were young girls there and they were afraid and alone and away from home. I remember the attempted hangar abortion and a girl being rushed to the ER. We never saw her again. I, too, would not choose abortion for myself. It's not my place to take that choice away from somebody else though. How old were you at the time? Are you saying you were living in a college dorm at 11 or 12? What?
It did pass federally in 1973. There were still state restrictions ie. in '76 SCOTUS allowed Missouri to allow women under 18 to have them. In '77 the Supreme Court allowed states to exclude elective ones from being performed in hospitals. I went to college near Kansas City, MO. It was known that the girls needed to go to Kansas to do it. There were no facilities available near KC, MO. I think, too, that they needed their parent's permission. Yes, there were 17-old-girls living in that dorm. That's why I asked you!
I knew you'd have a resonable explanation! They elected to have the more dangerous method! |
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Ah, You were busted telling a lie. Just admit it! 
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Lynann's right. I don't forget what it used to be like. I lived in a college dorm when I was young. There were young girls there and they were afraid and alone and away from home. I remember the attempted hangar abortion and a girl being rushed to the ER. We never saw her again. I, too, would not choose abortion for myself. It's not my place to take that choice away from somebody else though. How old were you at the time? Are you saying you were living in a college dorm at 11 or 12? What?
It did pass federally in 1973. There were still state restrictions ie. in '76 SCOTUS allowed Missouri to allow women under 18 to have them. In '77 the Supreme Court allowed states to exclude elective ones from being performed in hospitals. I went to college near Kansas City, MO. It was known that the girls needed to go to Kansas to do it. There were no facilities available near KC, MO. I think, too, that they needed their parent's permission. Yes, there were 17-old-girls living in that dorm. That's why I asked you!
I knew you'd have a resonable explanation! They elected to have the more dangerous method! They elected to have the more dangerous method? How so? There weren't available where we were at and there were restrictions. |
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The law in 1973 made abortions legal.
Just because MO was slow and lagging behind in providing services is not the issue! Drs. in MO were free from having their license pulled or being jailed from 1973 on! They were free to perform them in their private offices! A sterile safe environment. Plus if their were complications they could without fear take the woman to a hospital or call for an ambulance! Many States still require parental permission if the girl is under 18! |
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Prior to 1973 there were five states where abortions were legal.
12 that it was Legal in case of danger to woman's health, rape or incest, or likely damaged fetus. Two more plus DC where it was Legal in case of danger to woman's health. One where it was Legal in case of rape. |
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I'm curious, especially since most of the male population seems to think they get to make the decision about a woman's body...
For those so rabidly against a woman's choice - If science were at the point that a mans body could be adjusted to carry a baby to term (and c-section at birth), would you? I'm asking, because when I've tossed it out to other men, I get a "F-no! That's not my job." |
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I'm curious, especially since most of the male population seems to think they get to make the decision about a woman's body... For those so rabidly against a woman's choice - If science were at the point that a mans body could be adjusted to carry a baby to term (and c-section at birth), would you? I'm asking, because when I've tossed it out to other men, I get a "F-no! That's not my job." Who's baby is it? |
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I am sure many men, comfortable in the reality that they will never be pregnant, will assert that they would never abort if they themselves were pregnant.
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I'm curious, especially since most of the male population seems to think they get to make the decision about a woman's body... For those so rabidly against a woman's choice - If science were at the point that a mans body could be adjusted to carry a baby to term (and c-section at birth), would you? I'm asking, because when I've tossed it out to other men, I get a "F-no! That's not my job." Who's baby is it? Any human fetus. Would you, in order to keep the fetus alive and allow it to become a baby, and born, take on a fetus, carry to term instead of the pregnancy to be terminated? |
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