i just want to say that i am nothing, but jesus changed that it is him
that deserves the credit not me he wrote a book of poetry through me

I'm curious wonderman...what does jesus think of the dying children in
Iraq?...

it bothers him but we have free will sometimes we do things that take
our out of jesus will

Please, if I may ask a serious question. But first, wonderman, I'm happy
you have found joy and a way that suits your walk in this world.

Now, EGO - it seems pretty fair to say that Christians are to be as free
of ego as possible, to the point of being humble. Just consider that
for a moment, you don't toot your own horn, you don't show pride in work
that the Lord has allowd you to do. You don't judge but show care and
concern, etc. Yet, you toot the horn of Jesus, you paise the work you
do in his name, and speak often as if 'proud' that Jesus is in your
life.

Qustion? Would Jesus, in this case, be an alter-ego, one to replace
yours, to give you leave to speak in this manner? When others are down
and out, to praise your life and your happiness in his name - is that
not ego?

Would it not be better, to give without being known, to sympathize
without evangilizing, to offer your support without extending a crutch
of faith, in Jesus name, to those afflicted? Would it not be more
humble to offer sympathy, understanding and a listening ear, without the
the alter-ego on your shoulder telling you to profess your faith to the
one in need??

Which is more humble, which would be most like Jesus? Is that not what
you all strife to be like?

You see to me, exploring, finding and adhereing to your belief is a
personal endeavor that included a personal relationship between, oh lets
say, your ego and your alter-ego. To expound on this relationship to
others, is neither humble nor necessary. Rather, it seems to me, that
the peace you are supposed to have found through that personal
relationship, has little or nothing to do with the work you do for
goodness sake.

1 Corinthians 1:30-31
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But by His doing you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from
God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption, so that, just
as it is written, "LET HIM WHO BOASTS, BOAST IN THE LORD."
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i do boast in the lord i said it before i was and am nothing without
christ

Spider, in other words, there is nothing you do that is good that you
can claim for yourself. For all good comes from and is attributed to
the glory of God, without whom that good work would not, have been
accomplished. His will be done.

Is that correct?

I agree with wonderman Jesus saves, but sometimes is good to keep it a
little low
Jesus said it's not worth to give pearls to some individuals.

TLW

well i hope i get some of the will of jesus he saves so it could be
worth a motsa. dont know anything about gods will i hope god saves too
it would be nice to know watt gods will is worth.any one have any good
ideas?

jesus created us for a purpose long before we were born when we were
still his emenry he knows which of his are his own his will comes into
play before we even find him his will for us varies from person to
person you will be shown your purpose the will after you find him cry
out to him he does saves.

Redykeulous,

Good is when you obey the will of God. Evil is when you don't.

Is doing charity work good? Probably. Will it save you? No. Because
no matter who you are, you serve your own will more than you serve Gods.

Spider & Wonderman, let me ask again as I do not understand the the
reply.

My quote:

"" To expound on this relationship (meaning the personal relationship
between you and God) to others, is neither humble nor necessary. Rather,
it seems to me, that the peace you are supposed to have found through
that personal relationship, has little or nothing to do with the work
you do for goodness sake."""

To which Spider replied:

1 Corinthians1:30-31
-------------------------------------------------------------But by His
doing you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, and
righteousness and sanctification, and redemption, so that, just as it is
written, "LET HIM WHO BOASTS, BOAST IN THELORD."
-------------------------------------------------------------

both of you (Wonderman and Spider) seem to be of the same thought, that
we all have a purpose and that all good comes from God. So my question
is - can you not do good works simply because you feel moved to do so,
without crying out to the world what a wonderous thing you did, thanks
to God? Is there no Good which eminates from us, without the
inspiration of the Lord?

Redykeulous,

When you do good, you are doing God's will. When you don't do God's
will, you are doing evil.

Example: You help an old lady across the street. Without your help,
she would have stood on the street corner several more minutes. You
leave her on the curb of the opposite side of the street and walk away
feeling better about yourself. As she orientates herself, a young
hooligan runs out of a building, bumping into the old lady and throwing
her into the path of a delivery van. Her elderly body is crushed and
she dies.

You did, what you thought was good, but it resulted in the death of an
old lady. You commited an unintentionally evil act. Why is it an
"evil" act? Because God's will would have been that you escort the old
lady into a nearby store, not leave her on the curb. Does it mean that
you have commited a sin? Maybe, maybe not. But if you had done God's
will, the old lady wouldn't be dead.

OK, I'm sorry to be so hardheaded, so this goes back to the part of
there is not good unless it's Gods will. The lack of Gods will then
leaves only evil. So we are not good because we choose to be good, we
are good because it's Gods will?

Now here's were I get lost in this thought.

Those who reject God can still do good, but only if God wills it.

Those who DO believe in God (and Jesus) can do good but only by Gods
will, otherwise they are and do evil, but can still be forgiven, but
only if God chooses to forgive them based on the sins they commited
while in the state of free will, which God willed would be evil.

I seem to be caught in a catch 22 here.

OK FIRST OF ALL, LIKE I SAID I AM NOTHING WITHOUT CHRIST.
SECONDLY I FEEL BY SHARING THE POEMS THAT JESUS WROTE THROUGH ME MAYBE
SOMEONE ELSE WILL BE HEALED WHOM READ THE POEM .
IF YOU WOULD HAVE CHECK OUT MY BOOK WEB PAGE YOU WOULD ALREADY KNOW THIS
THAT I WANT OTHERS TO BE HEALED BY JESUS.

Redykeulous,

God forgives those who have accepted Jesus as their savior and ask to
be forgiven. There is no litmus test, there is no magic number. All
sins are forgiven completely. They are washed away, when God looks at
the saved, he sees them as sinless.

Red when I find myself faced with a problem like this I reduce it to its
simplest terms just like a math problem.

the lowest common denominator in all that you posted is what will tie it
all together.

In each case the common point is God.

AB - that's sort of my point. If the common point is God, what purpose
did Jesus serve?