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Topic: Rupert Murdoch: “Internet Will Soon Be Over”
warmachine's photo
Thu 05/07/09 11:29 AM
Jay Rockefeller: Internet should have never existed, push to hand the keys to Obama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct9xzXUQLuY

warmachine's photo
Thu 05/07/09 11:29 AM
I guess, all that is just an illusion and I should bury my head back in the quagmire of American Idol.

damnitscloudy's photo
Thu 05/07/09 01:09 PM
Big corporations have always tried to get the reins over the internet for some time. Its like a cowboy trying to wrangle in a wild horse. So far the horse keeps knocking the companies off, but one day they will get a hold on it.

Like how Youtube used to be user friendly, everyone post their videos up there and everyone have a grand time, until music companies and artists got mad that their songs are being played on a radio in the back of the video and they arent getting royalties. So now its regulated to mostly video blogs and a little bit of creativity.



P.S. Where do these companies expect us to watch music videos anymore besides youtube? Its not like they are played on TV anymore rant

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Thu 05/07/09 01:15 PM
Edited by quiet_2008 on Thu 05/07/09 01:15 PM
Apparently, paying out millions in server fees for half the population of the planet to watch clips of cute puppies isn’t a sustainable business model.


that says it all

nogames39's photo
Thu 05/07/09 01:49 PM

Apparently, paying out millions in server fees for half the population of the planet to watch clips of cute puppies isn’t a sustainable business model.


that says it all


rofl

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Thu 05/07/09 02:41 PM
Edited by Atlantis75 on Thu 05/07/09 02:47 PM

Big corporations have always tried to get the reins over the internet for some time. Its like a cowboy trying to wrangle in a wild horse. So far the horse keeps knocking the companies off, but one day they will get a hold on it.

Like how Youtube used to be user friendly, everyone post their videos up there and everyone have a grand time, until music companies and artists got mad that their songs are being played on a radio in the back of the video and they arent getting royalties. So now its regulated to mostly video blogs and a little bit of creativity.



P.S. Where do these companies expect us to watch music videos anymore besides youtube? Its not like they are played on TV anymore rant


That is different. While there are copyright laws, and Youtube is indeed a privately owned company, they have the right to do whatever they want. If they would only allow Yogi bear videos, then it's their choice, although they would still need copyright rights from Time-Warner or whoever owns the copyright laws for Yogi bear.

But here, Rupert Murdoch is daydreaming. There is neither an owner, neither copyright law about the Internet. The current law is, I can write whatever the hell I want and it should stay that way. If someone doesn't like what I write, then don't read it. If you do, then you are welcome. That is how it should be and will be forever. The only would object are the ones who might own the server, so I have to follow their guideline of terms of service. Just like Mingle 2. For example, Rupert Murdoch could never have any right to delete this comment I'm making right now, because I'm within the terms of service of Mingle2 and mingle2 is following the terms of service of the server its running from, or if it's their own server than they can make up whatever rules they wish.

By the way, I think Rupert Murdoch has little idea about the Internet or how it works, he is an old-timer weasel, he should be enjoying the Australian Sunshine on a beach instead of playing power games and acting like someone who is just never satisfied with money, so I wouldn't pay attention to him anyway.

warmachine's photo
Thu 05/07/09 04:51 PM


Big corporations have always tried to get the reins over the internet for some time. Its like a cowboy trying to wrangle in a wild horse. So far the horse keeps knocking the companies off, but one day they will get a hold on it.

Like how Youtube used to be user friendly, everyone post their videos up there and everyone have a grand time, until music companies and artists got mad that their songs are being played on a radio in the back of the video and they arent getting royalties. So now its regulated to mostly video blogs and a little bit of creativity.



P.S. Where do these companies expect us to watch music videos anymore besides youtube? Its not like they are played on TV anymore rant


That is different. While there are copyright laws, and Youtube is indeed a privately owned company, they have the right to do whatever they want. If they would only allow Yogi bear videos, then it's their choice, although they would still need copyright rights from Time-Warner or whoever owns the copyright laws for Yogi bear.

But here, Rupert Murdoch is daydreaming. There is neither an owner, neither copyright law about the Internet. The current law is, I can write whatever the hell I want and it should stay that way. If someone doesn't like what I write, then don't read it. If you do, then you are welcome. That is how it should be and will be forever. The only would object are the ones who might own the server, so I have to follow their guideline of terms of service. Just like Mingle 2. For example, Rupert Murdoch could never have any right to delete this comment I'm making right now, because I'm within the terms of service of Mingle2 and mingle2 is following the terms of service of the server its running from, or if it's their own server than they can make up whatever rules they wish.

By the way, I think Rupert Murdoch has little idea about the Internet or how it works, he is an old-timer weasel, he should be enjoying the Australian Sunshine on a beach instead of playing power games and acting like someone who is just never satisfied with money, so I wouldn't pay attention to him anyway.


Money was never Murdochs issue, money was the means to an end for power. The man controls media empires on at least 4 continents, he controls what info people get from those sources. Remeber Fox news calling 2000 for Bush and how quick everyone else backtracked?

As for the issue that it will stay the way it is, well then you need to go read the bill that's included in the post: Your blog is a weapon.

They are trying to kill the freedom in the current model of the internet.

Dragoness's photo
Thu 05/07/09 05:00 PM



Ah!!!

Prison Planet.com


LOL!!!


and the smirkingchimp is any better?


Never said it was!
Did I?

Id say if Murdoch is losing advertisements it's due to the right wing spin he puts on his news.
After 8 years of him spreading the Bush Propaganda and lying to America, I wont watch and I'm sure many others feel the same.
No viewers=no sponsors!


I wouldn't have a problem with Faux news so much if they would stop stating it like everyone should think that way and if they don't they are terrorists or something.

Have you ever watched their ticker? Even the ticker is biased.

If they would stop falsely stating "Fair and Balanced" that would be a start.

"Fox news right wing slanted news for the right wing of America" would be better.

Dragoness's photo
Thu 05/07/09 05:04 PM
As for the internet, the horse is out of the gate, there is no stopping it unless they make computers illegal...lol

warmachine's photo
Thu 05/07/09 05:05 PM
There are ways, including, but not limited to, strong arming IP providers.

Dragoness's photo
Thu 05/07/09 05:13 PM

There are ways, including, but not limited to, strong arming IP providers.


So then there would be bootleg IP providers...lol

nogames39's photo
Thu 05/07/09 05:14 PM
If you want to take away from someone his freedom, offer him safety, so that he would consent of being placed in the cage.

I think, it is totally possible, to shut down Internet as it is. Divide the people who are using it, by pointing out the differences in their goals, and underscoring insecurities associated with unregulated use of Internet. Then use the larger group to squash the smaller one. Once this is completed, divide again and add some more regulations. Continue until desired degree of control is attained.

warmachine's photo
Thu 05/07/09 05:15 PM
That wouldn't last for long, NSA has the net covered from eyeballs to a$$hole.

Besides, IP providers have proven they'll, for the most part, do whatever Government tells them to, as proven by the Warrantless wiretapping debacle.

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