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Topic: Some More Jefferson Quotes and Why Obama is a terrorist!
PokerKing420's photo
Tue 05/05/09 10:48 AM
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
Thomas Jefferson

"[The purpose of a written constitution is] to bind up the several
branches of government by certain laws, which, when they
transgress, their acts shall become nullities; to render
unnecessary an appeal to the people, or in other words a rebellion,
on every infraction of their rights, on the peril that their
acquiescence shall be construed into an intention to surrender
those rights." --Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia, 1782. Q.XIII

"The foundation on which all [our State constitutions] are built
is the natural equality of man, the denial of every pre-eminence
but that annexed to legal office and particularly the denial of a
pre-eminence by birth." --Thomas Jefferson to George Washington,
1784.

"Man [is] a rational animal, endowed by nature with rights and
with an innate sense of justice." --Thomas Jefferson to William
Johnson, 1823.

"It is to secure our rights that we resort to government at all."
--Thomas Jefferson to Francois D'Ivernois, 1795.


"The equal rights of man and the happiness of every individual
are now acknowledged to be the only legitimate objects of
government." --Thomas Jefferson to A. Coray, 1823
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

"Leave no authority existing not responsible to the people."
--Thomas Jefferson to Isaac H. Tiffany, 1816.

We already had Bush start to demolish the constitution with his patriot acts, and now we have Obama trying to tell people who go out and earn a living to give 40% of their money away on his new proposed plan? I honestly believe the entrepeneurs are going to say to hell with US soon and just split, then what are we going to do? The wealthy have the ability to just up and leave as far as i'm concerned, would they want to? Probably not, but they will if this new tax plan Obama is trying to push goes through. And then Obama has the nerve to shake all the hands of the enemies of the United States saying the words "America screwed up i'm sorry????" He's a terrorist. I think it's time for a revolution. Soon.

Thoughtfulthug's photo
Tue 05/05/09 10:49 AM
Didn't Jefferson once quoted that "lighthouses are more useful than churches?"

PokerKing420's photo
Tue 05/05/09 10:51 AM

Didn't Jefferson once quoted that "lighthouses are more useful than churches?"


Jefferson was called a "Dhiest" He did not believe in the bible, only in common sense. His belief a dhiest as they were called, believed that, God put us here, then said Peace. basically, The Bible was written by man, therefore it is flawed, according to Jefferson. So yes, he probably did quote that before.

Thoughtfulthug's photo
Tue 05/05/09 10:52 AM
Edited by Thoughtfulthug on Tue 05/05/09 10:53 AM

Didn't Jefferson once quoted that "lighthouses are more useful than churches?"


I always figure that many of the founding fathers were diests. It shows in some of their writing on how they were actually the byproducts of English enlightenment, and their admiration for ancient forms of government (Roman Republicanism as the one of the many).

PokerKing420's photo
Tue 05/05/09 10:54 AM


Didn't Jefferson once quoted that "lighthouses are more useful than churches?"


I always figure that many of the founding fathers were diests. It shows in some of their writing on how they were actually the byproducts of English enlightenment, and their admiration for ancient forms of government (Roman Republicanism as the one of the many).


Actually most of them were, Thomas Jefferson, Washington, Jackson, Most of our founding fathers believe it or not were mate.

Dragoness's photo
Tue 05/05/09 11:02 AM

A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
Thomas Jefferson

"[The purpose of a written constitution is] to bind up the several
branches of government by certain laws, which, when they
transgress, their acts shall become nullities; to render
unnecessary an appeal to the people, or in other words a rebellion,
on every infraction of their rights, on the peril that their
acquiescence shall be construed into an intention to surrender
those rights." --Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia, 1782. Q.XIII

"The foundation on which all [our State constitutions] are built
is the natural equality of man, the denial of every pre-eminence
but that annexed to legal office and particularly the denial of a
pre-eminence by birth." --Thomas Jefferson to George Washington,
1784.

"Man [is] a rational animal, endowed by nature with rights and
with an innate sense of justice." --Thomas Jefferson to William
Johnson, 1823.

"It is to secure our rights that we resort to government at all."
--Thomas Jefferson to Francois D'Ivernois, 1795.


"The equal rights of man and the happiness of every individual
are now acknowledged to be the only legitimate objects of
government." --Thomas Jefferson to A. Coray, 1823
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

"Leave no authority existing not responsible to the people."
--Thomas Jefferson to Isaac H. Tiffany, 1816.

We already had Bush start to demolish the constitution with his patriot acts, and now we have Obama trying to tell people who go out and earn a living to give 40% of their money away on his new proposed plan? I honestly believe the entrepeneurs are going to say to hell with US soon and just split, then what are we going to do? The wealthy have the ability to just up and leave as far as i'm concerned, would they want to? Probably not, but they will if this new tax plan Obama is trying to push goes through. And then Obama has the nerve to shake all the hands of the enemies of the United States saying the words "America screwed up i'm sorry????" He's a terrorist. I think it's time for a revolution. Soon.



laugh Isn't it funny how people can interpret what they want from almost anything.

How in the world does any of this prove Obama is a terroristslaphead laugh

Most rich folks feel just as Buffet stated in his interview. The rich in this country have got a break for a long time concerning taxes and it is time for fairness. Buffet stated that out of his own moutn.

It is terribly funny that there was no revolutionary talk when there was a white tyrant in officefrustrated

Winx's photo
Tue 05/05/09 11:06 AM

A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
Thomas Jefferson

"[The purpose of a written constitution is] to bind up the several
branches of government by certain laws, which, when they
transgress, their acts shall become nullities; to render
unnecessary an appeal to the people, or in other words a rebellion,
on every infraction of their rights, on the peril that their
acquiescence shall be construed into an intention to surrender
those rights." --Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia, 1782. Q.XIII

"The foundation on which all [our State constitutions] are built
is the natural equality of man, the denial of every pre-eminence
but that annexed to legal office and particularly the denial of a
pre-eminence by birth." --Thomas Jefferson to George Washington,
1784.

"Man [is] a rational animal, endowed by nature with rights and
with an innate sense of justice." --Thomas Jefferson to William
Johnson, 1823.

"It is to secure our rights that we resort to government at all."
--Thomas Jefferson to Francois D'Ivernois, 1795.


"The equal rights of man and the happiness of every individual
are now acknowledged to be the only legitimate objects of
government." --Thomas Jefferson to A. Coray, 1823
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

"Leave no authority existing not responsible to the people."
--Thomas Jefferson to Isaac H. Tiffany, 1816.



I don't see how these Jefferson quotes prove that Obama is a terrorist.

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 05/05/09 11:07 AM
rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

Winx's photo
Tue 05/05/09 11:08 AM
Btw, it's not the time for a revolution. We should, instead, be working together to make life easier for each other - helping each other.

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 05/05/09 11:19 AM
:banana: Im a republikan now and I think we need a revuluchun becuz wee lost the elekchun:banana:

Thoughtfulthug's photo
Tue 05/05/09 11:19 AM

Btw, it's not the time for a revolution. We should, instead, be working together to make life easier for each other - helping each other.
That is fine and dandy in a bowl of flowers, but in order for this to happen, one must find agreement with others first before that can be actualized. No matter what, there will, and ever will be infighting between people about who shall be the leader to create a society for all of us who can benefit and prosper together. And I don't think that can happen with the existing system that regulate the masses into fighting themselves instead of empowering them to actually make the decision without through the traditional system that had already taken place.

Dragoness's photo
Tue 05/05/09 11:22 AM

:banana: Im a republikan now and I think we need a revuluchun becuz wee lost the elekchun:banana:


noway :wink:

Winx's photo
Tue 05/05/09 11:24 AM


Btw, it's not the time for a revolution. We should, instead, be working together to make life easier for each other - helping each other.
That is fine and dandy in a bowl of flowers, but in order for this to happen, one must find agreement with others first before that can be actualized. No matter what, there will, and ever will be infighting between people about who shall be the leader to create a society for all of us who can benefit and prosper together. And I don't think that can happen with the existing system that regulate the masses into fighting themselves instead of empowering them to actually make the decision without through the traditional system that had already taken place.


It's not the time for a revolution.

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Tue 05/05/09 11:24 AM
Edited by darkowl1 on Tue 05/05/09 11:27 AM
after seeing what the inquisition did to innocent people, that to this day, they claim that they were witches and heretics, and the church has never flawed, not even once they say, for it was their divine right for the church to get filthy rich off it as well, i'll keep lighthouses.......since i sail the seas and great-lakes anyway, they are truly a welcome sight.
true spirituallity i'll live by, and the laws of the universe, but not a religious sect. those only benefit the privileged higher up in the church's echelon. the regular patrons that keep their church alive, just give and suffer to make the church's privileged, live very well.......poor old ladies with their last bit of savings........what goes around, comes aro.......well......it hasn't yet, has it?....... what about all those little boys? i've had many a priest hit on me years and years ago, before this was an issue.....


shame!mad i'll be waiting in hell to recieve those priests with open armsdevil

and politics........wait four years........they'll be the same........(exponentially more and more corrupt)laugh laugh laugh

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 05/05/09 11:31 AM



Btw, it's not the time for a revolution. We should, instead, be working together to make life easier for each other - helping each other.
That is fine and dandy in a bowl of flowers, but in order for this to happen, one must find agreement with others first before that can be actualized. No matter what, there will, and ever will be infighting between people about who shall be the leader to create a society for all of us who can benefit and prosper together. And I don't think that can happen with the existing system that regulate the masses into fighting themselves instead of empowering them to actually make the decision without through the traditional system that had already taken place.


It's not the time for a revolution.
:smile: Some people need to learn to respect other peoples right to have who they voted for president and other elected officialsflowerforyou

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 05/05/09 11:33 AM
flowerforyou Learn to respect the democratic proccess as a real American should.bigsmile The people have spoken and they have chosen their president fair and square.flowerforyou

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Tue 05/05/09 11:35 AM

:banana: Im a republikan now and I think we need a revuluchun becuz wee lost the elekchun:banana:


laugh laugh :banana: :banana: :banana: laugh laugh

Winx's photo
Tue 05/05/09 11:35 AM




Btw, it's not the time for a revolution. We should, instead, be working together to make life easier for each other - helping each other.
That is fine and dandy in a bowl of flowers, but in order for this to happen, one must find agreement with others first before that can be actualized. No matter what, there will, and ever will be infighting between people about who shall be the leader to create a society for all of us who can benefit and prosper together. And I don't think that can happen with the existing system that regulate the masses into fighting themselves instead of empowering them to actually make the decision without through the traditional system that had already taken place.


It's not the time for a revolution.
:smile: Some people need to learn to respect other peoples right to have who they voted for president and other elected officialsflowerforyou


Well said.flowerforyou

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 05/05/09 11:40 AM
goes for past, present and future presidents

Thoughtfulthug's photo
Tue 05/05/09 11:48 AM


It's not the time for a revolution.
Tell me then what is the appropriate time for a revolution?
Before you even begin on answering the question. Please think of our present condition, and as well as thinking about times long ago when there was revolutions, or current revolutions that are taking place of today.


:smile: Some people need to learn to respect other peoples right to have who they voted for president and other elected officialsflowerforyou
Thank you for the flower. It is mighty tasty.

Anyway, I am getting a indigestion of what you have said to me, and I don't understand what is your point?

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