When I was my 20's forever ago, I would meet a woman, we would hit it off, have fun and kiss!!!!!!!!!! What is going on now?????

Three weeks ago I met a woman on another dating site. After a glass of wine first when we met we have been out to nice restuarants and nightspots for live music twice, and then had a picnic and a great day at a park.

She is from S.America, age 59, a beauty consultant, stunningly beautiful, perfect light complected flawless glowing skin and very nice hair style/medium brown color, perfect teeth, beautiful eyes, legs, and incredible shape. A size 4, 5'2" 122 pounds. Maybe one pound of fat!!!! - - at 59, what a miracle!!!!! Her clothes are so elegant and appealing to the eye, certainly from Macy's not Walmart. Sweet, friendly, not crazy or wierd, a good mom, considerate, a bit quiet.

She told me before we met that she meets guys on line and they soon want to go to bed with her. I told her then that I would refrain. Dont ask me how, each time we've been together she wears a revealing top, she has cleavage the size of the Grand Canyon. How much more restraint can I show??

All i have gotten is kisses on the cheek. I wouldnt expect a big wet one with tongue at first. I made mention of this to her a bit that I'd like a little kiss. I told her I would still go along with no kissing four days ago. It seems its a problem for her [like I shouldnt expect a kiss.} For me the problem is I want to kiss her so damn bad. She has not returned my call since.

OK I know I am "outkicking my coverage" with her, just look at my photo, you'll see why.

Yesterday I met another woman on a computer date. Not as good looking as the first and a weight problem. I was still very positive and welcoming with her, we chatted well. But still no kiss.

I know there was concern about kissing and anything!!!!! when the AIDS epidemic was found to involve heteros, but that was 20 years ago. What they hell is going on now?????????

Four words: "Just go for it"

Give it 4-5 dates, If she is as wonderful as you say the wait will be worth it.

TM

What's outkicking your coverage?? Huh? Do you mean because you are not attractive and you are overweight and therefore out of your league? That's sad if that is what you mean.

Well, it sounds like the fit 59 year old may be all about getting dinners and time out of the house. If she were interested in you on a romantic level she would have wanted the kissing by now. Or, perhaps you have bad breath and don't realize it and she's too polite to tell you? Or, do you have obvious dentures? Who knows?

As for the second fat not attractive woman, maybe she got the vibe from you that you don't find her attractive. Or maybe she doesn't like your figure. Again, who knows?

Gentleman to ?Gentleman?

Your comment causes me to wonder what kind of attitude/vibes you send out, when meeting ladies. To kiss or not to kiss, is totally open to the ladies. If they chose not to kiss, NONE of your business; if it bothers you, DON'T ask them out again. End of problem. I went out/dated a lady; for almost a year & never kissed her, never tried. We were/are friends & there was never a romantic thing going between us. Most of that was due to her belief in God, respect for her dead husband, love for her son's & just the way she lives her life. I never saw a problem with that; then or now.

So, my suggestion to you; if you aren't getting kisses, look at how you are acting. I am sure that there are PLENTY of LADIES out there, LOOKING to get kissed.

Again these are just MY thoughts.

I don't think your age has anything to do with it. I date. I kiss.

But then I also date a lot younger guys. I haven't dated a man my age in gosh, well .. not at all, since I started dating again after my divorce, which was 7 years ago.

Thanks SKPG,

"outkicking your coverage" =s out of my league. Yes

There are a lot woman who love the dining and drinks, but have no feelings for the guy who pays. To me, a bit of a smooch on the lips would mean she cares for me and not just the $$ I spend on her. And it doensnt mean that it is expected as a prelude to sex.

Oh, and last night, with the second woman. A beautiful face and I let her know I felt that way, and that i wanted to see her again. The weight situation would not hinder me. You are right, I am fat too, i use to skinny. I really!!!!!!! wanted to kiss her as well.
I think I am seen as very positve by women I meet.

FadeTuBlack, i sure!!!! could kiss you, but i am too old for you.


2BRich, where do i go??

Tiger, you are right, she may be worth the wait, and you havent even seen her picture

your problem as I see it is this... you have expectations.. and when it doesn't happen you want to know why.. The first woman is probably a habitual dater knowing she can have a night out with any man she so chooses. cut and run I say with her.

the second one? well what can I say you yourself said it your both overweight? so is it possible you have double standards? sounds like it to me. JMO

Duck, OK I have a bit of a gut, but not to the point where i would not fit inside a blimp hanger. Standard is the same for women, I'll take the second with the big keester, but we guys all know we in the back of our minds want a woman like the first one with a perfect bod. What you want ain't usually whay you get!!!! Can deal with that.

Sounds like someone's focusing too much on physical attributes. When the kissing (or more) is over, what kind of person will you see next to you? The thrill of the chase never outweighs the lasting friendship and shared love of a truly beautiful heart.

Loyal. thanx. the kind of person I will be next to in the future is strongly considered from the moment we meet. The shapely woman has very!!!!!!!!!!!!! good character, so i believe. There was something quirky about the second, it troubles me a bit, i am leery.

There seems the chase doesnt get far due to roadblocks.

Maybe you're rushing things. Some women just like to take it slowly. After being treated like meat over and over, some women want to know that you respect them and are in it for a long term commitment rather than a romp in the sack.

If you're enjoying dating these ladies, then keep dating them. Why not just relax and enjoy their company without expectations. When the moment is right, you'll both know it and your lips will meet. I have to admit that for a guy to ask if he can kiss me is a big turnoff. I prefer an assertive guy who pays attention to the signs and seizes the moment to plant one on me. So pay attention to the signs, and when the opportunity presents itself, kiss her slowly and tenderly so that she feels down deep in her soul. Then she'll be begging for more.

You are so funny Old Sage
I, on the other hand, am looking for that special someone who cannot NOT kiss me. I want a passionate person that cannot help but hug me and hold me tight...after we have decided that we are the best friend that we will ever find in this world.

You are so funny Old Sage
I, on the other hand, am looking for that special someone who cannot NOT kiss me. I want a passion person that cannot help but hug me and hold me tight...after we have decided that we are the best friend that we will ever find in this world.

Sounds to me that you are focusing too much on the physical. The way to a womans heart is through her brain not her bra.

there as been nothing physical!!!!!!! It's been all emotional, heartfelt, and honest - - telling her she is so lovely and how much I enjoy her company, bringing her flowers, insisting on opening the car door for her. Her brain has been addressed properly. I know nothing about her bra, just wish I knew a little bit about her gorgeous lips.