http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article5950442.ece

I'm sorry, but this is complete nonesense....if they start pulling this crap over here, I'm fighting back....

What is disturbing about hard facts, we all had better start looking around us and noticing that resources are not unlimited, while we grow beyond the means to keep up. That should only be common sense.

I agree. I just don't think that cutting down a population drastically is the answer...

Over population will be an issue soon enough. I don't know what the answers will be to it but it will be. Resources are going to run out eventually.

With the population as it stands and people still having several kids as though it was the 18oo's, it stands to reason drastic isn't too unrealistic.

How many times have I mentioned Eugenics?

I am not referring to Eugenics here War, I am referring to common sense.

For those who want a bit of information about Eugenics:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics

I am aware there are folks who distrust wikipedia and I am sure there are other sites with just as much if not more information on it.

I think there is dark side to most things but I dont think one should just ban something because it has a bad side.

Lamps cause fires if tipped over, so should we have never invented the light bulb? I know that's a lame example but haven't had my coffee yet.

So War do you think overpopulation is BS? Just curious..

Do you want to be the first in line for the ovens? How about your mom, sister or daughter?

Why is it we don't hear about populations as a benefit, like in India?

I do think it's BS, its always targeted at poor people, while those writing this crap never want to be the example and kill themselves.

Sorry War, I am just not with you on this yet if at all, still looking at the whole Eugenics thing. I see the abuses in history, of course I don't want to see that.

But I also am not convinced that the more poeple that inhabit the earth at one time don't affect the enviroment that can sustain them.

Should we wait to find out? Then it's to late to ask people to be a bit more responsible about how many children the bring into the world that will compete with other children for resources etc?

I guess I just feel there are other sides to every issue, i can't just climb on board with one view until I am convinced it is logical.

China's One Child Policy
One Child Policy in China Designed to Limit Population Growth
By Matt Rosenberg, About.com


Jun 18 2008
China has proclaimed that it will continue its one child policy, which limits couples to having one child, through the 2006-2010 five year planning period.
China's one child policy was established by Chinese leader Deng Xiaoping in 1979 to limit communist China's population growth. Although designated a "temporary measure," it continues a quarter-century after its establishment. The policy limits couples to one child. Fines, pressures to abort a pregnancy (EUGENICS-WM), and even forced sterilization (EUGENICS-WM) accompanied second or subsequent pregnancies.

It is not an all-encompassing rule because it has always been restricted to ethnic Han Chinese (Targets poor people) living in urban areas. Citizens living in rural areas and minorities living in China are not subject to the law. However, the rule has been estimated to have reduced population growth in the country of 1.3 billion by as much as 300 million people over its first twenty years.

This rule has caused a disdain for female infants; abortion, neglect, abandonment, and even infanticide have been known to occur to female infants (Blowback EUGENICS-WM). The result of such Draconian family planning has resulted in the disparate ratio of 114 males for every 100 females among babies from birth through children four years of age. Normally, 105 males are naturally born for every 100 females.


Recent Effects of the One Child Law
Now that millions of sibling-less people in China are now young adults in or nearing their child-bearing years, a special provision allows millions of couples to have two children legally. If a couple is composed of two people without siblings, then they may have two children of their own, thus preventing too dramatic of a population decrease (Nevermind what this does to the gene pool-WM).
Although IUDs, sterilization, and abortion (legal in China) are China's most popular forms of birth control, over the past few years, China has provided more education and support for alternative birth control methods.

Statistically, China's total fertility rate (the number of births per woman) is 1.7, much higher than slowly-declining Germany at 1.4 but lower than the U.S. at 2.1 (2.1 births per woman is the replacement level of fertility, representing a stable population, exclusive of migration).

In 2007, there were reports that in the southwestern Guangxi Autonomous Region of China, officials were forcing pregnant women without permission to give birth to have abortions and levying steep fines on families violating the law. As a result, riots broke out and some may have been killed, including population control officials.


The Future of China's One Child Law
China's eleventh Five-Year Plan Period is from 2006 to 2010. Minister of the State Commission of Population and Family Planning Zhang Weiqing confirmed in early 2006 that China's one child policy is consistent with the nation's plan for population growth and would continue indefinitely. He denied rumors that the policy become less stringent to permit a second child.

I think China forcing people is wrong. But just for the sake of saying so, what do you do when people aren't smart enough to figure out that having more children in this day and age is not particularly smart? I bet some folks in this country right this minute that are finding them selves out in the street are grateful they didn't have a handful of kids that now must endure this situation along with them. Is that cruel to say?

Rural areas just as in China, people aren't educated and don't much give a crap what the consequences are. Education should be most important, but I certainly don't know what a country should do when it's own people aren't smart enough to see the consequences of over population. That makes me cruel? I obviously not able to see that yet.

Do i want to see forced abortions and hatred of female babies and the rest, no, of course not, that is ignorant too. I don't pretend to know the answers but I think it's irresponsible to dismiss over population as BS as well.

Sounds like you're just riding the fence on this one, but think about how'd you feel if the population control officials showed up to force sterilize your daughter. The only way to make this happen is to kick the Chinese model onto the Global stage. Then what?

even though teenage pregancy is starting to decline (some say) the US still has the highest rate in western civilization. parents need to be more responsible in watching the kids and knowing what they are doing. teens needs to be educated even more...tough love style.