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Topic: the Obama Deception
boredinaz06's photo
Mon 03/16/09 10:12 AM




OBAMA DECEPTION DIRECTOR ALEX JONES REACHES OUT TO OBAMA SUPPORTERS


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTMi8shnpLo

warmachine's photo
Mon 03/16/09 10:16 AM
I posted this myself. Guess how much response it garnered?


slaphead

Speaking of that movie, Alex choose to let it go up on the net for free, immediately, due to the sensitive and important nature of the film.

Watch it in fairly high quality at this link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

Winx's photo
Mon 03/16/09 10:18 AM
Edited by Winx on Mon 03/16/09 10:19 AM





OBAMA DECEPTION DIRECTOR ALEX JONES REACHES OUT TO OBAMA SUPPORTERS


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTMi8shnpLo


He sounds like he's a conspiracy theorist to me.



boredinaz06's photo
Mon 03/16/09 10:31 AM






OBAMA DECEPTION DIRECTOR ALEX JONES REACHES OUT TO OBAMA SUPPORTERS


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTMi8shnpLo


He sounds like he's a conspiracy theorist to me.





Unfortunately all Conspiracies are Based on a Truth Somewheregrumble

think2deep's photo
Mon 03/16/09 10:31 AM

I posted this myself. Guess how much response it garnered?


slaphead

Speaking of that movie, Alex choose to let it go up on the net for free, immediately, due to the sensitive and important nature of the film.

Watch it in fairly high quality at this link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw


THIS IS A MUST SEE!!!!!!!!!!

boredinaz06's photo
Mon 03/16/09 10:39 AM

I posted this myself. Guess how much response it garnered?


slaphead

Speaking of that movie, Alex choose to let it go up on the net for free, immediately, due to the sensitive and important nature of the film.

Watch it in fairly high quality at this link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw



Need to Post it more Oftendrinker

UniqueDreamMan's photo
Mon 03/16/09 10:39 AM
What gets me about all of this is the man never had a change. Less than a 100 days in office and they movies attacking his positions. You have missed Obama's message "completely".

nogames39's photo
Mon 03/16/09 10:47 AM

What gets me about all of this is the man never had a change. Less than a 100 days in office and they movies attacking his positions. You have missed Obama's message "completely".


You mean "never had a chance"? He is too weak as a man, to be a president. He allows himself to to be the tail of the dog. Disgusting.

Winx's photo
Mon 03/16/09 10:48 AM
Edited by Winx on Mon 03/16/09 11:15 AM
Oops.

Winx's photo
Mon 03/16/09 10:49 AM
Edited by Winx on Mon 03/16/09 10:49 AM







OBAMA DECEPTION DIRECTOR ALEX JONES REACHES OUT TO OBAMA SUPPORTERS


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTMi8shnpLo


He sounds like he's a conspiracy theorist to me.





Unfortunately all Conspiracies are Based on a Truth Somewheregrumble


That's true. But..I felt that he was on the extreme side.


boredinaz06's photo
Mon 03/16/09 10:52 AM








OBAMA DECEPTION DIRECTOR ALEX JONES REACHES OUT TO OBAMA SUPPORTERS


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTMi8shnpLo


He sounds like he's a conspiracy theorist to me.





Unfortunately all Conspiracies are Based on a Truth Somewheregrumble


That's true. But..I felt that he was on the extreme side.




they all Are! that's why they're Conspiracy Theroies laugh

Winx's photo
Mon 03/16/09 10:54 AM






OBAMA DECEPTION DIRECTOR ALEX JONES REACHES OUT TO OBAMA SUPPORTERS


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTMi8shnpLo


He sounds like he's a conspiracy theorist to me.



Unfortunately all Conspiracies are Based on a Truth Somewheregrumble


That's true. But..I felt that he was on the extreme side.



they all Are! that's why they're Conspiracy Theroies laugh


laugh flowerforyou

think2deep's photo
Mon 03/16/09 11:14 AM
ok, you win, it's all a big lie. these people are making this stuff up.

markecephus's photo
Mon 03/16/09 11:15 AM

Posts removed, Please debate the topic, in a civil manner.

Thanks,

Mark

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Mon 03/16/09 11:16 AM
Edited by Atlantis75 on Mon 03/16/09 11:28 AM
Alex Jones - How much money is he making with his t-shirts and dvds lately?

The man blends reality with myths so cleverly, that you go criticize any topic of his and he will shower you with facts.

Half truths are still a lie.

Never forget to ask - What's his purpose and what is he trying to achieve? You enter prisonplanet or infowars and you get showered by ads to buy dvd-s and t-shirts and to open an account to pre order stuff of buy previous of his videos.

Hysteria and fear sells.

Bush did the same thing with the terrorist threat (although with more realistic bases), now Alex Jones is making a killing by the hardcore believers who sleep/eat/drink conspiracy theories. Israel injects fear into the people by pushing the "Iranian threat" while the Anti Defamation League screamnig antisemitism and trying to scare the bejesus out of Jews in Europe and other parts of the world.

in USA the "muslim threat" puts a real target in everyone's eyes, and while there are extremists and fanatics in the Muslim world, it's also apparently true in the Christian and Jewish world.
Without having a fear, the public would not support wars and killing.



Economy crisis, Middle-East, secret societies, Freemasons, Bilderbergs, new world order, neocons, fascists, police state, amero, north American union, NAFTA, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Rockefeller, - all melted together into a giant mass of world conspiracy to enslave the planet and to put a chip inside your body (which is a mark of the beast), the end times and the fall of USA and the fall of the dollar and removing the Constitution. At the end, you will be a society of Borgs with a few people being as the collective and you will worship of the Antichrist.

Are you scared enough yet? Will you dare to step outside your house?

Alex Jones - with a serious background (radio host) will explain everything to you and why you should protest front of the Mariott hotel against the conspirators against humanity.

I know, now I'm probably "part of the plan" saying negative stuff about this, I might be a Bilderberg myself or a "watcher" a "man in black" trying to discredit this "american hero" and I probably show up on the Bohemian groove and wear the sign of the Freemasons.

Ohh, and I'm also a dual citizen, that makes my case even worse. I probably have an agenda to enslave the Americans.

pitchfork -- oouhhh there you go, I might be a demon worshipper government agent! devil

I'm just trying to help you here, really, discredit and critique the fanatics and those who take advantage of you. flowerforyou


think2deep's photo
Mon 03/16/09 11:24 AM

Alex Jones - How much money is he making with his t-shirts and dvds lately?

The man blends reality with myths so cleverly, that you go criticize any topic of his and he will shower you with facts.

Half truths are still a lie.

Never forget to ask - What's his purpose and what is he trying to achieve? You enter prisonplanet or infowars and you get showered by ads to buy dvd-s and t-shirts and to open an account to pre order stuff of buy previous of his videos.

Hysteria and fear sells. Bush did the same thing with the terrorist threat (although with more realistic bases), now Alex Jones is making a killing by the hardcore believers who sleep/eat/drink conspiracy theories. Economy crisis, Middle-East, secret societies, Freemasons, Bilderbergs, new world order, neocons, fascists, police state, amero, north American union, NAFTA, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Rockefeller, - all melted together into a giant mass of world conspiracy to enslave the planet and to put a chip inside your body (which is a mark of the beast), the end times and the fall of USA and the fall of the dollar and removing the Constitution. At the end, you will be a society of Borgs with a few people being as the collective and you will worship of the Antichrist.

Are you scared enough yet? Will you dare to step outside your house?

Alex Jones - with a serious background (radio host) will explain everything to you and why you should protest front of the Mariott hotel against the conspirators against humanity.

I know, now I'm probably "part of the plan" saying negative stuff about this, I might be a Bilderberg myself or a "watcher" a "man in black" trying to discredit this "american hero" and I probably show up on the Bohemian groove and wear the sign of the Freemasons.

pitchfork -- oouhhh there you go, I might be a demon worshipper government agent! devil


just throwing this out there for thought. it costs money to make these videos. he has to spend money on lodging, food, transportation costs. basically operation costs are probably pretty huge. and if we want him to keep showing us the things he is actually going out and getting footage of, then he needs help with the financing part. what's wrong with charging for the video to help finance this. at least he isn't just showing us what he's finding on the internet, he is actually going out himself and videoing this.

nogames39's photo
Mon 03/16/09 11:27 AM
Strangely, the topic exactly as this one have just been discussed. I guess I have to copy / paste my post to this thread now...

Here is my response to the points that Alex Jones is making with his "Deception" DVD:
As much as I don't like what Obama is doing, I feel compelled to note that:

- That Obama isn't working for the interest of American people is obvious, and doesn't require a world domination plan to make sense. If he was, he would be busy destroying the FED first. But to go along doesn't require any additional reasons beyond being "just like all others".

- American people are the ones pushing hardest for a global slavery, if it means "no escape" domination of mob rule.

- World governments can not be bankrupted. Whoever keeps engineering these plans, is forgetting that we live in a fiat monetary system, worldwide. In such a system, bankruptcy loses it's meaning. Besides, being sovereign, the governments can only lose their credit, nothing more.

- America's transformation into Nazi Germany, has nothing to do with Obama (I wish it had!). It has everything to do with American people desiring more socialized economy, which has Nazi Germany as it's logical outcome.

- World Bank is a logical continuation of a Central Bank. If all money on earth is uniformly fake, then one can't tell, and possibly has no reasons to even suspect that he is living like a power cell in a Matrix. However this will require all countries to have same level of life, which means, that those having a higher level would need to lower it in order to meet the raise of those who currently have a lower level of life. This was since 1913, and remains, quite an obstacle.

- Yes, Obama does plan to destroy the middle class and the seniors in particular. But this is not a result of any world domination conspiracy scheme, this is what those affected Americans currently require from Obama. He is simply making their wishes true.

- Lastly, on the point that "International bankers purposefully engineered the worldwide financial meltdown to bankrupt the nations of the planet and bring in World Government." This is hilarious, as it presupposes that without such a purposeful act, the world economy would be just fine, rolling along the corrupt fiat monetary system and flawed democracy principles. Observe. Such a presupposition means that those alleging that there is a global slavery plan, in effect, tacitly approving the fiat money system, which has brought us here in the first place. Believe them, and you will have to accept the infallibility of fiat.

So, who is baiting who? Obama is bad, but don't let that to distract you from seeing the truth.

think2deep's photo
Mon 03/16/09 11:43 AM

Strangely, the topic exactly as this one have just been discussed. I guess I have to copy / paste my post to this thread now...

Here is my response to the points that Alex Jones is making with his "Deception" DVD:
As much as I don't like what Obama is doing, I feel compelled to note that:

- That Obama isn't working for the interest of American people is obvious, and doesn't require a world domination plan to make sense. If he was, he would be busy destroying the FED first. But to go along doesn't require any additional reasons beyond being "just like all others".

- American people are the ones pushing hardest for a global slavery, if it means "no escape" domination of mob rule.

- World governments can not be bankrupted. Whoever keeps engineering these plans, is forgetting that we live in a fiat monetary system, worldwide. In such a system, bankruptcy loses it's meaning. Besides, being sovereign, the governments can only lose their credit, nothing more.

- America's transformation into Nazi Germany, has nothing to do with Obama (I wish it had!). It has everything to do with American people desiring more socialized economy, which has Nazi Germany as it's logical outcome.

- World Bank is a logical continuation of a Central Bank. If all money on earth is uniformly fake, then one can't tell, and possibly has no reasons to even suspect that he is living like a power cell in a Matrix. However this will require all countries to have same level of life, which means, that those having a higher level would need to lower it in order to meet the raise of those who currently have a lower level of life. This was since 1913, and remains, quite an obstacle.

- Yes, Obama does plan to destroy the middle class and the seniors in particular. But this is not a result of any world domination conspiracy scheme, this is what those affected Americans currently require from Obama. He is simply making their wishes true.

- Lastly, on the point that "International bankers purposefully engineered the worldwide financial meltdown to bankrupt the nations of the planet and bring in World Government." This is hilarious, as it presupposes that without such a purposeful act, the world economy would be just fine, rolling along the corrupt fiat monetary system and flawed democracy principles. Observe. Such a presupposition means that those alleging that there is a global slavery plan, in effect, tacitly approving the fiat money system, which has brought us here in the first place. Believe them, and you will have to accept the infallibility of fiat.

So, who is baiting who? Obama is bad, but don't let that to distract you from seeing the truth.



That Obama isn't working for the interest of American people is obvious, and doesn't require a world domination plan


why does it not require a world domination plan when the plan he is implementing is clearly a global domination plan?
is this only happening here in the united states? i think not.
this plan has been enacted over 2000 years ago. it has been based on the monetary system. this crisis has happened on smaller scales all throughout history, now the exact same thing is happening on a global level. doesn't sound like a coincidence to me.

Yes, Obama does plan to destroy the middle class and the seniors in particular. But this is not a result of any world domination conspiracy scheme, this is what those affected Americans currently require from Obama. He is simply making their wishes true.




again what proof do you have that there is no world domination conspiracy scheme.


Lastly, on the point that "International bankers purposefully engineered the worldwide financial meltdown to bankrupt the nations of the planet and bring in World Government." This is hilarious, as it presupposes that without such a purposeful act, the world economy would be just fine, rolling along the corrupt fiat monetary system and flawed democracy principles. Observe. Such a presupposition means that those alleging that there is a global slavery plan, in effect, tacitly approving the fiat money system, which has brought us here in the first place. Believe them, and you will have to accept the infallibility of fiat.



when the international bankers introduced to us this fiat currency, what was their purpose? they weren't so stupid as to think that the fiat currency would retain it's value. since they knew this fact, why did they implement it? what have they planned to do when the dollar devalues to it's zero point?



yellowrose10's photo
Mon 03/16/09 12:26 PM

Alex Jones - How much money is he making with his t-shirts and dvds lately?

The man blends reality with myths so cleverly, that you go criticize any topic of his and he will shower you with facts.

Half truths are still a lie.

Never forget to ask - What's his purpose and what is he trying to achieve? You enter prisonplanet or infowars and you get showered by ads to buy dvd-s and t-shirts and to open an account to pre order stuff of buy previous of his videos.

Hysteria and fear sells.

Bush did the same thing with the terrorist threat (although with more realistic bases), now Alex Jones is making a killing by the hardcore believers who sleep/eat/drink conspiracy theories. Israel injects fear into the people by pushing the "Iranian threat" while the Anti Defamation League screamnig antisemitism and trying to scare the bejesus out of Jews in Europe and other parts of the world.

in USA the "muslim threat" puts a real target in everyone's eyes, and while there are extremists and fanatics in the Muslim world, it's also apparently true in the Christian and Jewish world.
Without having a fear, the public would not support wars and killing.



Economy crisis, Middle-East, secret societies, Freemasons, Bilderbergs, new world order, neocons, fascists, police state, amero, north American union, NAFTA, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Rockefeller, - all melted together into a giant mass of world conspiracy to enslave the planet and to put a chip inside your body (which is a mark of the beast), the end times and the fall of USA and the fall of the dollar and removing the Constitution. At the end, you will be a society of Borgs with a few people being as the collective and you will worship of the Antichrist.

Are you scared enough yet? Will you dare to step outside your house?

Alex Jones - with a serious background (radio host) will explain everything to you and why you should protest front of the Mariott hotel against the conspirators against humanity.

I know, now I'm probably "part of the plan" saying negative stuff about this, I might be a Bilderberg myself or a "watcher" a "man in black" trying to discredit this "american hero" and I probably show up on the Bohemian groove and wear the sign of the Freemasons.

Ohh, and I'm also a dual citizen, that makes my case even worse. I probably have an agenda to enslave the Americans.

pitchfork -- oouhhh there you go, I might be a demon worshipper government agent! devil

I'm just trying to help you here, really, discredit and critique the fanatics and those who take advantage of you. flowerforyou




very interesting

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Mon 03/16/09 12:51 PM


Alex Jones - How much money is he making with his t-shirts and dvds lately?

The man blends reality with myths so cleverly, that you go criticize any topic of his and he will shower you with facts.

Half truths are still a lie.

Never forget to ask - What's his purpose and what is he trying to achieve? You enter prisonplanet or infowars and you get showered by ads to buy dvd-s and t-shirts and to open an account to pre order stuff of buy previous of his videos.

Hysteria and fear sells. Bush did the same thing with the terrorist threat (although with more realistic bases), now Alex Jones is making a killing by the hardcore believers who sleep/eat/drink conspiracy theories. Economy crisis, Middle-East, secret societies, Freemasons, Bilderbergs, new world order, neocons, fascists, police state, amero, north American union, NAFTA, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Rockefeller, - all melted together into a giant mass of world conspiracy to enslave the planet and to put a chip inside your body (which is a mark of the beast), the end times and the fall of USA and the fall of the dollar and removing the Constitution. At the end, you will be a society of Borgs with a few people being as the collective and you will worship of the Antichrist.

Are you scared enough yet? Will you dare to step outside your house?

Alex Jones - with a serious background (radio host) will explain everything to you and why you should protest front of the Mariott hotel against the conspirators against humanity.

I know, now I'm probably "part of the plan" saying negative stuff about this, I might be a Bilderberg myself or a "watcher" a "man in black" trying to discredit this "american hero" and I probably show up on the Bohemian groove and wear the sign of the Freemasons.

pitchfork -- oouhhh there you go, I might be a demon worshipper government agent! devil


just throwing this out there for thought. it costs money to make these videos. he has to spend money on lodging, food, transportation costs. basically operation costs are probably pretty huge. and if we want him to keep showing us the things he is actually going out and getting footage of, then he needs help with the financing part. what's wrong with charging for the video to help finance this. at least he isn't just showing us what he's finding on the internet, he is actually going out himself and videoing this.



Yes and all the money he spends will come back tenfold from people that eat this stuff up. That proves nothing. Ever heard of rag mags? I can't believe they make two cents, personally, but people support that stuff. This guy isn't stupid he knows that fear sells. Yet some think we are even too stupid to pick that up.

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