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on one hand our debt is the highest its ever been
on the other hand, as a percentage of the GDP its not so bad 
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Ah, but it is soooo easy to say "We love our children!", and "They are our future". But when it comes to act, we fnck them. Let them deal with our debts, they are our future, it is our debt, but it is their problem! Rhetoric. You say "we" are "screwing them" by our actions. The government protects the one's truly responsable for our current situation so the people then turn to the government for accountability. Handouts may not be the right answer, but I would just hate to see the wrong people walk away with the purse. I would much rather see this money secure homes for Americans, help people struggling with student loans, and stabalize consumer markets. Otherwise screw the government and their checkbook. |
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Do you guys not understand that the reason they say that we are borrowing this money from our children and grandchildren is that they have to pay it back in taxes????!!!!!!! They will get so friggin taxed because people like you guys trying to accept more debt money from the federal reserve. to give you an understanding of what is happening, when our government borrows this money from the federal reserve, they borrow it at an intrest. guess who pays back the interest!! now, if we were to pay back every cent that we owe to the federal reserve, there would be absolutely no dollars in circulation. We would have given them all back. but we still would owe the interest on these loans, but guess what!!! the fed didn't print the interest. you people are so damn greedy its pathetic. our children and grandchildren are going to be paying for all of these bail out bills. the GAO report says we are already in debt to the federal reserve 65 trillion dollars. you can't keep borrowing money from the feds to pay the feds back. First of all calm down. Nobody in this thread is getting a dime. Deep breath, read between the lines. If the government is GOING to do something like this then it should go to the public sector and NOT the corporate sector. These should be treated as investments not handouts anyway. The underlying theme here is giving people who are already well-off more money will not stimulate the economy. Businesses require markets, markets require people with money to spend, people with money to spend require jobs, jobs require businesses... Ad infinitum. Don't worry about your grandkids having to pay taxes. Things keep rolling downhill like they are and they will be flat out homeless. p.s. What's pathetic is getting worked up over an internet discussion. Ixnay on the day ominemhay. well, i'm not getting worked up about the discussion, I'm very passionate about this whole situation. We have a habit of accepting what the government does and not doing anything about it. if we did what everyone of those 2 million people that went to obama's inauguration instead of just sitting here babbeling about what they should do with the money that they shouldn't even be messing with, then congress and washington would see that the days of their authority would be numbered. but, we won't do it. We would rather be sitting in our cushy life bubbles that we have created for ourselves until we actually get pushed out of it and onto the streets. |
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Edited by
TenTigers
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Tue 02/24/09 07:53 AM
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well, i'm not getting worked up about the discussion, I'm very passionate about this whole situation. We have a habit of accepting what the government does and not doing anything about it. if we did what everyone of those 2 million people that went to obama's inauguration instead of just sitting here babbeling about what they should do with the money that they shouldn't even be messing with, then congress and washington would see that the days of their authority would be numbered. but, we won't do it. We would rather be sitting in our cushy life bubbles that we have created for ourselves until we actually get pushed out of it and onto the streets. Well it is hard for people to get up and do something when they are slaves to sustenance. One of the reasons big business has gotten it's way for so long is they can afford full-time lobbyists to push their agendas on government hill. I mean hell, I wouldn't exactly call what I'm living a cushy life bubble. I'm living paycheck to paycheck. If I get pushed out onto the streets I'm staying there so to speak. |
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Ah, but it is soooo easy to say "We love our children!", and "They are our future". But when it comes to act, we fnck them. Let them deal with our debts, they are our future, it is our debt, but it is their problem! Rhetoric. You say "we" are "screwing them" by our actions. The government protects the one's truly responsable for our current situation so the people then turn to the government for accountability. Handouts may not be the right answer, but I would just hate to see the wrong people walk away with the purse. I would much rather see this money secure homes for Americans, help people struggling with student loans, and stabalize consumer markets. Otherwise screw the government and their checkbook. There is no proof that giving to the people would stimulate the economy. 1.) some people have a habit of whording their money which will most likely not see someone else's pockets for a long time. 2.) The small amount that would be given to the people would be spent up quickly and wouldn't even come close to paying off most people's debt so they would still be owing and not being able to pay the rest. 3.) It would only detour the enevitable by a very short time. 4.) infusion of money into the system always causes the money value to decrease. It doesn't go back up again either. in the 96 years that the federal reserve system has been in place, our currency has devalued 94% because they keep printing more money out of thin air. It doesn't matter which end of the economy you infuse it, it will decrease the value of the money and we will be stuck with that value. |
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well, i'm not getting worked up about the discussion, I'm very passionate about this whole situation. We have a habit of accepting what the government does and not doing anything about it. if we did what everyone of those 2 million people that went to obama's inauguration instead of just sitting here babbeling about what they should do with the money that they shouldn't even be messing with, then congress and washington would see that the days of their authority would be numbered. but, we won't do it. We would rather be sitting in our cushy life bubbles that we have created for ourselves until we actually get pushed out of it and onto the streets. Well it is hard for people to get up and do something when they are slaves to sustenance. One of the reasons big business has gotten it's way for so long is they can afford full-time lobbyists to push their agendas on government hill. I mean hell, I wouldn't exactly call what I'm living a cushy life bubble. I'm living paycheck to paycheck. If I get pushed out onto the streets I'm staying there so to speak. it's cushy compared to alot of people's situation right now. there was a guy that said the other day "when your neighbor loses his job it's a recession, but when you lose yours, it's a depression" all of those people that went to the inauguration had jobs that they were putting on hold and they got off their butts to see the president. the truth is, we have become complacent and accept the governments usurpation of power. |
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Edited by
nogames39
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Tue 02/24/09 09:52 AM
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....If the government is GOING to do something like this then it should go to the public sector and NOT the corporate sector.... Why so? What is the freaking difference? These should be treated as investments not handouts anyway. Who is the investor here? The underlying theme here is giving people who are already well-off more money will not stimulate the economy. Right. Let's reward the stupid, the dumb, the lazy and the thoughtless. If one is doing the right thing, then he is never the one to deserve anything, he is simply an undeserving be-atch, designed to work, and to pay for others having their siestas. Businesses require markets, markets require people with money to spend, people with money to spend require jobs, jobs require businesses... Ad infinitum. So, if one is receiving, then who is paying? And if someone is paying, then what about the argument that one needs to receive some money for the economy to heal? Don't worry about your grandkids having to pay taxes. Things keep rolling downhill like they are and they will be flat out homeless. Yep. Lets do what we can to survive without working. Fnck the children. Fncking sell them to slavery if it gets me some satellite channels! p.s. What's pathetic is getting worked up over an internet discussion. Well, he is the one to pay for this holiday of irresponsibility. I am paying my taxes every year, never getting any refunds. Now, my taxes go up again. Is that what I wake up and go to work for? When is my day, huh? Ixnay on the day ominemhay.
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