Well no surprises here. Large males bully and physically intimidate while smaller ones use politics to secure positions.

How much is chimp behavior like human behavior?

Maybe someone should do a decidedly unscientific inquiry here of posters, their styles and their size.

Humm a mingle2 poster and a chimp? hehe

ScienceDaily (Feb. 3, 2009) — With most mammals, the biggest and most aggressive male claims the alpha male role and gets his choice of food and females. But a new study from the University of Minnesota suggests that at least among chimpanzees, smaller, more mild-mannered males can also use political behavior to secure the top position.

The finding was gleaned from 10 years of observing dominant male chimpanzees in Gombe National Park, Tanzania, looking at behaviors they used to compete for alpha male status relative to their size. Analysis showed that larger males relied more on physical attacks to dominate while smaller, gentler males groomed other chimpanzees, both male and female, to gain broad support.

Full article: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/02/090202174958.htm

ScienceDaily (June 18, 2008) — "Female chimps are more concerned with having sex with many different males than finding the strongest mate, according to researchers."

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/06/080617204509.htm

It appears that regardless of the males technique and/or status in the troop, they're all getting their wicks dipped.

"One common hypothesis suggests that such calls enable females to advertise their sexually receptive state to mates, which in turn incites competition amongst males. According to this idea, the successful female ends up with the strongest partner and achieves the highest quality offspring. However, the new study found no evidence for such male-to-male competition, nor any link between hormonal state and calling activity."

Maybe someone should do a decidedly unscientific inquiry here of posters, their styles and "attention getting, copulation calling" techniques. Is it possible for a "chimp" to "doth protest too much"? Methinks so.

Hmmm a mingle2 poster and a chimp? hehehe

Interesting article you posted Lynann. One of the observations I have- is that regardless of the technique (physical or political) exhibited by the male chimps, they're still the leaders of the troop. The role of the females speaks for itself in the above posted article. As not to further rub sodium chloride into your self-inflicted wound... I shall bypass on any Freudian banana references .

Gosh Bee...

Your capacity to entertain never ceases to amaze me!

Since you've addressed your post to me I will take the liberty of addressing you as well.

That said I am glad you enjoyed the article. I do find your reply interesting for several reasons. I won't engage in assumption however so I must ask you directly about something you've posted.

"The role of the females speaks for itself in the above posted article."

Are you inferring something about the role of females outside chimp society as well? Read in whole your post does seem to suggest that but I wouldn't want to put words...or anything else your mouth. Perhaps a thought in your head but...

Oh, and if you'd like to engage in a little Psy 101 I really have to wonder why you would choose to post and comment on an article about female copulation calls in reply to mine about males using political or physical methods to secure position?

What's the matter Bee? No female mating calls coming your way?

Feeling a little down?

Aweeee shucks Lynann, I aims to please maam. Apparently it doesn't take much to amaze you; However, I shall accept your compliment none-the-less. Thank you.

"Are you inferring something about the role of females outside chimp society as well?"

No. In order for a species to continue they must procreate. The basic role of ALL females is to be a semen receptacle. Aside from the mating ritual, different species have different roles in regards to hunting/gathering and alpha status. Take lions for example, the female hunts/kills the prey... yet the male eats first. Conversely, the Praying Mantis, a large, dominant female who consumes her semen donor after mating.

As per "pseudo psychology" one would logically ask why you posted this type of topic to begin with? Your comment "Maybe someone should do a decidedly unscientific inquiry here of posters, their styles and their size. Humm a mingle2 poster and a chimp? hehe" obviously stated to generate replies/attention. The mind reels with speculation of your other possible motives. Hoping the males here might fight over you? The tight corsette in your photograph to draw attention to yourself? (BTW- I freely admit, your only technique that has worked on me). Posting a myriad of mundane topics using the "quanity is better than quality" strategy to fend off the female competition?

"What's the matter Bee? No female mating calls coming your way"? I would ask the same basic question (Bee= Lynann and female= male)of you. You're the one who took the time to reseach and post this topic, yes? Ok, so I have a weakness for women in tight fitting corsettes with cut and paste obsessions, and limited critical thinking skill sets. Being the gentleman I am, there's no need to thank me for subsidizing another one of your topics by posting. Keep the faith, chances are you might find a beta male eventually.

"The basic role of ALL females is to be a semen receptacle"

Speaks volumes...

Bee...no thanks...I'd be bored and you'd be confused.

OOOps... silly me. I made a mistake. I seem to have accidently omitted the word "mammalia" between "ALL" and "females" the above quote (in keeping with your chimp topic). Tsk, tsk, how in the world could that happen? Probably distracted by your photo again. To clarify futher, I would include "for natural reproduction". Thank you for not embarrassing/puting me to shame with your intimate knowledge cloning technology and of fish (E.G. Salmon)reproductive methods/techniques to correct me.