They are in GITMO for a reason, and they should stay there. They are TERRORISTS hell bent on the destruction of the peace loving people of United States and its allies. A recent article on yahoo.com stated that a former detainne returned to Yemen to become Al-Qaida's #2 in command.






These people are not warm and fuzzy!!!!!

We Should "Accidentally" Drop a Bomb on Gitmo before Hussein Obama Closes it!

Oh there's a Surprise

Back Atcha

Yup. Everyone in Gitmo is a terrorist and they all deserve what they get.

Does that include the guards and other staff?

Does that include interrogators sent in to 'obtain' information?



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Omar Khadr is a Canadian citizen born in Ottawa, Ontario in 1986. Omar has been in the custody of the United States Department of Defense since he was 15 and has been detained at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba since he was 16 years old. The United States alleges that Omar’s father took him to meet Al-Qaeda leaders when Omar was ten years old, that he received military training, and fought in Afghanistan. In July 2002, Omar was captured by the U.S. military after its forces bombed and assaulted the compound in which he was living. The U.S. raid and subsequent firefight resulted in
the death of a U.S. soldier and Omar being severely wounded.

Thereafter, he was detained at Bagram Air Base and was subjected to cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment and torture.

At the age of 16, Omar was sent to the U.S. detention facility in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba. While detained, Omar was subjected to excessively harsh interrogation methods in violation of international law, including: shackling in painful stress positions for hours on end; beatings by guards; express threats of rendition to third countries for the purposes of torture; solitary confinement for lengthy periods; and confinement in extremely cold cells. While other minors at Guantánamo were segregated from the adult population and ultimately repatriated, Omar has never received any age-appropriate treatment. In nearly five years of imprisonment, Omar has only once been permitted contact with his
family.

In November 2004, pursuant to an Executive Order establishing military commissions, the U.S. government charged Omar with murder, attempted murder, conspiracy, and aiding the enemy. The U.S. Supreme Court subsequently invalidated the military commissions system as contrary to U.S. law and the Geneva Conventions. In February of 2007 Omar was recharged under the new system
established by the Military Commissions Act of 2006 (MCA). On June 4, 2007, those new charges were dismissed. The Military Commissions judge determined that the Military Commission did not
have jurisdiction to try Omar as an “unlawful enemy combatant” based on his prior designation by the Combat Status Review Tribunal as an “enemy combatant.” This ruling The US government appealed
this ruling on July 3, 2007 to a Court of Military Commissions Review, an appellate body constituted by the government in response to the dismissal of charges.

Despite having had charges against him dropped twice, Omar has been continuously held by the U.S. for nearly five years, much of it without being charged or provided access to lawyers. Moreover, it remains the position of the U.S. government that even if acquitted by a military commission, Omar could remain imprisoned at Guantánamo for the rest of his life.

Every Western democracy, except Canada, has criticized the Guantánamo detention center and the military commissions system constructed by the U.S. Moreover, the United Kingdom, France,
Germany, and Australia have all applied substantial diplomatic pressure on the U.S., resulting in the release of their nationals from detention at Guantánamo. For example, British Prime Minister Tony Blair demanded and secured the release of all British nationals and non-citizen permanent residents detained at Guantánamo. British Attorney General Lord Goldsmith explained that the release of British nationals was sought because the military commissions system failed to offer “sufficient guarantees of
a fair trial in accordance with international standards.” Australian Prime Minister John Howard, in the face of public outrage about the illegal detention of Australian national David Hicks at Guantánamo, intervened to negotiate a plea agreement in which Mr. Hicks, who was facing a potential life sentence,
was repatriated to Australia to serve a nine-month sentence.

The military commission framework devalues Canadian citizenship by exempting U.S. citizens from prosecution for war crimes. Indeed, the U.S. Congress has determined that military commission
proceedings are inadequate for U.S. citizens. Only non-U.S. nationals are subject to the jurisdiction of military commissions, leaving U.S. citizens to be tried in federal civilian courts or regular courtsmartial. For example, U.S. citizen John Walker Lindh, who was captured in circumstances similar to Omar’s, was afforded the full constitutional protections of a criminal trial in U.S. federal civilian courts. Furthermore, the military commission rules prevent Omar from being represented before the commissions by Canadian attorneys.


http://www.law.utoronto.ca/documents/Mackin/Khadr_summary-timeline.pdf

So even innocent he stays locked up! Now that sounds like some strange justice.

There are no charges against Omar Khadr. There have been two dismissals of charges against him. Therefore he is being held illegally.

It's times like this that I wish we had a PM who hadn't played lapdog to Bush.


Khadr witness withdrawn to 'cover up' abuse: defence

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20081207/khadr_witness_081207?hub=Canada





Witness says U.S. soldier nearly executed Khadr

Omar Khadr, the Canadian who has been held at Guantanamo Bay since being captured by U.S. forces in Afghanistan, was almost executed by an American soldier, a newly released witness account says.

The account from an army officer, written in a personal diary released by the U.S. military, says one soldier was about to tell another soldier to kill Khadr during the 2002 firefight when he was captured, but other U.S. troops intervened.

"PV2 R had his sites right on [Khadr] point blank," said the excerpt, which had been edited by the U.S. Defence Department prior to its release on Wednesday. "I was about to tap R on his back to tell him to kill him but the [Special Forces] guys stopped us and told us not to."

The Pentagon alleges that after a July 2002 attack by U.S. soldiers on a suspected al-Qaeda compound, Khadr threw a grenade that killed one of the U.S. soldiers. He was captured and detained at Guantanamo Bay as a result.

The U.S. military has claimed that Khadr was the only one who could have thrown the grenade. But a defence team discovered a witness late in 2007 who contradicted that claim, and the diary account also says that there were two people alive in the compound after the grenade that killed U.S. medic Sgt. First Class Christopher Speer was thrown.

The officer describes in the diary the death of the other fighter. "I remember looking over my right shoulder and seeing (redacted) just waste the guy who was still alive. He was shooting him with controlled pairs," or rapid execution-style firing.

Defence lawyer Lt.-Cmdr. William Kuebler says the death of the other fighter and the circumstances of Khadr's capture may have motivated U.S. soldiers to alter details in order to protect themselves. He alleges that a report on the incident, written by the region commander, was revised two months later to say Khadr was the only person left alive after the battle.

Khadr was shot twice in the back before his capture, leaving two huge exit wounds in his chest, a witness identified as OC-1 said in February. The Pentagon has said American soldiers fired on Khadr in self-defence. Khadr was still being treated in hospital 10 months later.

The prosecution has acknowledged the memo was updated, but said the changes were simply to reflect that Khadr survived his injuries.

The Toronto-born Khadr, who was 15 when he was wounded and captured, is expected to be tried in a military court at Guantanamo in the summer.

Also Wednesday, Khadr's chief interrogator for three months at the U.S. facility in Bagram, Afghanistan, identified as Sgt. Joshua Claus, has been given immunity from prosecution for any possible abuse of Khadr in return for his testimony at Khadr's trial.

Claus was court-martialled and discharged from the army after another badly beaten prisoner at Bagram died in December 2002.

In an affidavit released Monday, Khadr said he was forced to confess to placate interrogators who shackled him for hours, dropped him and threatened him with rape.


http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2008/03/19/khadr.html






Shot in the back in an act of self defense!!!! Seriously. I suppose it happens all the time that people attack backwards.

Why would he need immunity if everything that happened was legal and above board?

I hear they are givin em all Social Security numbers

Maybe he was a terrorist before, maybe not, nobody will ever know it for sure, unless someone has the proof.

Maybe he returned to his home country and started to become a terrorist, because everything he thought about USA being evil, was true, and he has his proof of being detained in Gitmo for no reason.

Ever thought of that?

If serving peach cobbler is torture, I'm in!!

Really?

I hope not.....

Peach cobbler? Perhaps you are not aware of the kind of torture and abuse these captured prisoners are enduring, are you? In order to get away with breaking International Laws governing the proper and humane treatment of prisoners of war, as well as civilian captives in times of war (as the Bush administration did not recognize the Taliban and Al Quaida serving under a legitimate government and thus NOT P.O.W.'s!)the U.S. government has kept these "enemy combatants" outside of U.S. soil. Read up on the Geneva Convention and you'll see that the Bush administration has been engaging in unlawful and inhumane treatment of these human beings.

It does not really matter what the intentions of these prisoners were. If we start acting like them, then we become no better than them.

If they are terrorists then charge them, try them, convict them, and sentence them. That's how our system is suppose to work.

It's also supposed to be 'release if found innocent' but that means nothing at Gitmo either.

Wait... Hold everything. Stop the show! Is this the same Karmafury from the other thread? Are you and I actually agreeing on something here?

Wow! Awesome. So you think Obama is doing the right thing by closing down shop in Gitmo then, right?

We are agreeing on something!!!!!!!