Topic: To Bless Is To Curse
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Sun 01/18/09 08:20 AM

Funches, before you waste a lot of time making this video. Do you understand a few things.

First. The Nephilim could have come back after the flood because they travel around in UFO's. That is how they got here in the first place. The flood isn't exactly going to wipe out all the UFO's now is it? And what of all the underwater UFO sightings?


"norslyman"..according to the bible God created The Great Flood to get rid of all the Nephilm and God could have pick the time when all the Nephilm would land their UFO's on Earth and then he flooded the planet ...but either way according to The Third Testament if any Nephilm survived it's an indication that God is capable of failure and therefore not a God ...which is why according to logic no believers would question whether if all the nephlim perish ..


The earth being created in 6 days?
You need to understand the 3 seperate earth ages. There was an entire earth age that proceeded this one. That is why the earth had to be REPLENISHED. Doesn't that indicate that there was something here? Before Genesis even. That is where we get the myth of Atlantis I believe. Let me know if you want more info on 3 earth ages.


according to Genesis God created everything in 6 earth days it was debated and all the debate lead to the account in Genesis which is why The Third Testament agreed with it ...the bible mention nothing about Atlantis


And hasn't the 3rd testament already been written? The book of Mormon. They claim it's "another" testament. Now THAT book is truly a good example of loony people claiming to hear from god.


maybe by another testament they are referring to the fourth testament

that reminds me...I better put in for my copyright


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Sun 01/18/09 08:29 AM

I think to most people its just an ingrained social nicety.


so was sacrificing Virgins

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Sun 01/18/09 10:43 AM

"norslyman"..according to the bible God created The Great Flood to get rid of all the Nephilm and God could have pick the time when all the Nephilm would land their UFO's on Earth and then he flooded the planet ...but either way according to The Third Testament if any Nephilm survived it's an indication that God is capable of failure and therefore not a God ...which is why according to logic no believers would question whether if all the nephlim perish ..


No. The fallen angels had a free will just like we do. God can't control our free will - or theirs. Therefore he can't control when they decided to illegally visit this earth. Instead of being "born" into this earth age through a woman, they got here illegally - not in a flesh body. Therefore forfeiting their chance at salvation.

This is why it is so important to understand the 3 seperate world ages. The devils rebellion took place in the first earth age. We are told very little about it. It was wiped clean from everbodies memory bank so we could have a fair 2nd chance in this earth age. Many who fell in the first age will fall in this one also.

How could God have said "Jacob I loved, and Esau I hated."? Unless God knew what Esau had done in the first earth age? He wouldn't hate an innocent little baby would he?



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Sun 01/18/09 11:47 AM

No. The fallen angels had a free will just like we do. God can't control our free will - or theirs.
Therefore he can't control when they decided to illegally visit this earth. Instead of being "born" into this earth age through a woman, they got here illegally - not in a flesh body. Therefore forfeiting their chance at salvation.


"norslyman" ...according to the bible God can do anything he choose which is the definition of Free Will...
everything else only have Free Choice to choose from a limited set of options also known as God's Divine Plan

God's Divine Plan is designed to set into motion events that will force people or nephilm to make the choices he already chose as their destiny

this plan created an event that would cause all the Nephilm to fly their UFOs to Earth or come from underground
so that he could wipe them all out

I don't know what the event was maybe it was a breakfast special at Ihop but he got them all here someway so that they could all drown in the great flood


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Sun 01/18/09 11:49 AM

This is why it is so important to understand the 3 seperate world ages. The devils rebellion took place in the first earth age. We are told very little about it. It was wiped clean from everbodies memory bank so we could have a fair 2nd chance in this earth age. Many who fell in the first age will fall in this one also.

How could God have said "Jacob I loved, and Esau I hated."? Unless God knew what Esau had done in the first earth age? He wouldn't hate an innocent little baby would he?


"norslyman".....when God killed all the first born of egypt and drown everyone in The Great Flood...wasn't some of them little innocent babies ..so are you saying this was an act of Love

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Sun 01/18/09 12:22 PM


Heavens, funches, you must be bored when you come up with all these topics.ohwell


making an episode called "The Third Testament" for a program I'm producing called "Strange Video"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX1qtmnotr4




I liked the video, even though I have a vivid imagination and suffered from nightmares after.
I watched the Ailanthus Chamber as well, but I got lost the first time round. The text disappeared too fast and I had to watch it 3 times to get all of it.

Congratulations, well done.flowerforyou

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Sun 01/18/09 04:50 PM


No. The fallen angels had a free will just like we do. God can't control our free will - or theirs.
Therefore he can't control when they decided to illegally visit this earth. Instead of being "born" into this earth age through a woman, they got here illegally - not in a flesh body. Therefore forfeiting their chance at salvation.


"norslyman" ...according to the bible God can do anything he choose which is the definition of Free Will...
everything else only have Free Choice to choose from a limited set of options also known as God's Divine Plan

God's Divine Plan is designed to set into motion events that will force people or nephilm to make the choices he already chose as their destiny

this plan created an event that would cause all the Nephilm to fly their UFOs to Earth or come from underground
so that he could wipe them all out

I don't know what the event was maybe it was a breakfast special at Ihop but he got them all here someway so that they could all drown in the great flood




I totally disagree. God's greatest gift to us and the fallen angels is a free will. He will never force his will upon anyone. He will "stand at the door and knock", but will not come in uninvited. That is why we have to "invite him into our hearts".

But, as Bob Dylan sings "you're gonna serve someone...." Yes, his divine plan will force us to make a choice. But the choice is still up to us.

Another plot of the fallen angels was to "pollute" the bloodline of the woman so that Messiah could not be born. They failed the first time. This would explain why they had to try again. Devil knew it was the "seed of the woman" that was going to crush his head.

Remember that "Kids in the Hall" skit - I'm crushing your head? laugh

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Sun 01/18/09 05:10 PM



Heavens, funches, you must be bored when you come up with all these topics.ohwell


making an episode called "The Third Testament" for a program I'm producing called "Strange Video"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX1qtmnotr4




I liked the video, even though I have a vivid imagination and suffered from nightmares after.
I watched the Ailanthus Chamber as well, but I got lost the first time round. The text disappeared too fast and I had to watch it 3 times to get all of it.

Congratulations, well done.flowerforyou


thanks ...when someone into video or film ask can they work on the project to test their imagination I ask them to take The Ailanthus chamber one and make it without printed words and add sound effects and narration to test their skills

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Sun 01/18/09 05:29 PM

I totally disagree. God's greatest gift to us and the fallen angels is a free will. He will never force his will upon anyone.


"norslyman" so what do you consider the great flood and the killing of the first born of eqypt... isn't those some pretty good examples of how God just lost it and went berserk and forced his will ...

unless you can consciously control you subconscious you have no Free Will ..only Free Choice

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Tue 01/20/09 01:35 PM
Free will, free choice hmmm...



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Tue 01/20/09 05:25 PM


laugh laugh laugh

I will just say hey to you my friend!

Can I at least wish you well?


"imageorgiagirl" ...of course you can my little georgian munch muffin

I love you!


smooched :heart: smooched :heart: smooched :heart: smooched :heart: smooched :heart: smooched :tongue: blushing

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Tue 01/20/09 05:41 PM

When someone gives their blessings is it used as a way to push their religious views into others' face

Do the religious use blessings as a way to be a walking talking human billboard to advertise their religion and force it upon others?

Do those that say may God bless you and may the angels watch over you just assume that blessing should be acceptable to anyone they wish to express it to but would they feel comfortable if a Satanist blessed them by wishing that Satan and his legions of demons watch over them or would they enjoy it if someone bless them by sticking pins in a voodoo doll

So are the religious just being arrogant by assuming that someone not of their faith wish to receive their blessings and not even comprehend or even care that others not of their faith may view their blessing the same as having a curse place on them



No the religious are not being arrogant. It is those who take offense that are actively looking for an excuse to hate those with differing religious beliefs and/or cultures.

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Tue 01/20/09 06:00 PM


The scriptures talk about that Blessings and cursings come out of the same mouth. This should not be it tells us.

You are to Bless not curse all those who will listen and not run you away. Debate is good it sharpens our swords. We all learn something in a debate if we will allow ourselves to.

I take the Blessings very seriously because Yahweh does not wish for even 1 hair of anyone to perish but the oppisite for everyone to come to the saving knowledge of love for him and when you have love for him all guile leaves and the commandment of Love for your brother becomes a natural part of what love for Yahweh is.

So we have not a clue what our destiny is. For it changes by how we love.

To Bless our Brother and hope him the best is a great love from then believer. For he leaves a part of himself with whoever which Yahweh see's and respects. So If you have ever wondered why most of the time I say Blessings when i am done writing. It is for this very fact. We are not to curse but to Bless.

Blessings of Shalom....Miles


"Milesoftusa" if Yahweh as you said didn't wish one hair on anyone's head to perish then it couldn't happen if it wasn't Yahweh's will for it to occur

Yahwah's is the one that set all the events into motion ..it's all part of his divine plan..and since a blessing can not change Yahweh's divine plan then there is no need to give a blessing unless you are trying to relate to that person that they are cursed unless they follow Yahweh


Technically some religions believe that prayer and blessings can have an impact upon a persons soul. One of the more famous examples is the belief of Catholics that prayers for the departed can speed a soul through purgatory, and to heaven.

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Tue 01/20/09 07:21 PM


I think to most people its just an ingrained social nicety.


so was sacrificing Virgins
I am just glad no virgins must die when I sneeze there would be none left!

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Wed 01/21/09 07:03 AM



laugh laugh laugh

I will just say hey to you my friend!

Can I at least wish you well?


"imageorgiagirl" ...of course you can my little georgian munch muffin

I love you!


smooched :heart: smooched :heart: smooched :heart: smooched :heart: smooched :heart: smooched :tongue: blushing


walk with me talk with me

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Wed 01/21/09 07:12 AM

No the religious are not being arrogant. It is those who take offense that are actively looking for an excuse to hate those with differing religious beliefs and/or cultures.


"Melaschasm" .it's not about hate it's about someone pushing their religious beliefs upon someone not of their faith which is why it's arrogant just to assume that others wish to receive those blessings ...

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Wed 01/21/09 07:25 AM
Edited by splendidlife on Wed 01/21/09 07:26 AM


When someone gives their blessings is it used as a way to push their religious views into others' face

Do the religious use blessings as a way to be a walking talking human billboard to advertise their religion and force it upon others?

Do those that say may God bless you and may the angels watch over you just assume that blessing should be acceptable to anyone they wish to express it to but would they feel comfortable if a Satanist blessed them by wishing that Satan and his legions of demons watch over them or would they enjoy it if someone bless them by sticking pins in a voodoo doll

So are the religious just being arrogant by assuming that someone not of their faith wish to receive their blessings and not even comprehend or even care that others not of their faith may view their blessing the same as having a curse place on them



No the religious are not being arrogant. It is those who take offense that are actively looking for an excuse to hate those with differing religious beliefs and/or cultures.


Perhaps it is ALL of us (to varying degrees) who "hate" anyone with differing anything. We feel threatened by anything that won't agree with our individual modus operandi. "Heaven" forbid anything should prove us wrong. :wink:

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Wed 01/21/09 07:32 AM

Technically some religions believe that prayer and blessings can have an impact upon a persons soul. One of the more famous examples is the belief of Catholics that prayers for the departed can speed a soul through purgatory, and to heaven.


"Melaschasm".. not to much the dead can do about someone pushing their blessings on them ...

unless these unwanted blessings infuriated their soul so much that they become a poltergeist and seek vengence upon the blessers that cause their limbo

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Wed 01/21/09 07:38 AM



I think to most people its just an ingrained social nicety.


so was sacrificing Virgins
I am just glad no virgins must die when I sneeze there would be none left!


before that could happen they would probably start sacrificing sneezers

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Wed 01/21/09 07:47 AM



When someone gives their blessings is it used as a way to push their religious views into others' face

Do the religious use blessings as a way to be a walking talking human billboard to advertise their religion and force it upon others?

Do those that say may God bless you and may the angels watch over you just assume that blessing should be acceptable to anyone they wish to express it to but would they feel comfortable if a Satanist blessed them by wishing that Satan and his legions of demons watch over them or would they enjoy it if someone bless them by sticking pins in a voodoo doll

So are the religious just being arrogant by assuming that someone not of their faith wish to receive their blessings and not even comprehend or even care that others not of their faith may view their blessing the same as having a curse place on them



No the religious are not being arrogant. It is those who take offense that are actively looking for an excuse to hate those with differing religious beliefs and/or cultures.


Perhaps it is ALL of us (to varying degrees) who "hate" anyone with differing anything. We feel threatened by anything that won't agree with our individual modus operandi. "Heaven" forbid anything should prove us wrong. :wink:


since "Heaven" was the place where the first war and the first world war took place ... it's not the best example of preaching against Hate ...in fact isn't it the template for Hate ...