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I have so often tried to imagine how others view life eternal. Believe it or not, I have never really lacked imagination but imagination in this realm is nothing more, to me, than an exercise in creating science fiction. I had a cousin and a close friend, both blinded at birth. I never thought much about this, my older cousin took care of me. I only knew her in HER space, her home, which she knew so well, I didn't even recognise her handicap until I was about 8 or 9, I guess. I didn't know my blind friend until about the same age. This is when I began to question, what does it mean, to be blind? Several people tried to explain but no one could really make me understand until one day I ask my friend. "What do you see?" We talked about it off and on all day. That night I couldn't sleep, still trying to understand. Suddenly, insight took over and there I was with a total understanding, not only what it meant to be blind, or deaf or to be born with no arms, but I seemed to understand and accept what death was like as well. A person may have sight or may not, may be deaf or may hear, the difference is between us, not within them. We are all whole until we are told different. Being whole, to me, means the here and now, the person I am becoming for the next moment, and to know that all I am is what makes me whole at any given moment, and that's all there needs to be. When I die, I will be whole, because I was whole at the last moment of life. When I ceased to exist, it was all there, within me. I find it comforting to know that when life ceases, it ends. I won't be torn apart from all that made me whole, I won't be forced to suffer an eternity apart from all I considered to be whole and sufficient. And like being blind or deaf, ceasing to exist as a whole, will not be apparent to me within, it will only be apparent to those who perceive a difference. With that reasoning I can really say, we do go to a better place, a place of peace, a place where there are no differences to be perceived. This will be my last post for a while, but I'll checking up on you guys, lurking, listening and when I have a break, I'll even speak - sorry if that bothers you. 
 to everyone!
Redy A beautiful post you write and so true 
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I'd be heading away from the peace and happiness. then one's finds the opposite of happiness and peace to most give peace and happiness? |
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There is a place of peace that allows all humans to enter and enjoy the serenity, happiness, and love that every spirit/god/soul/ghost has enjoyed since the universe was created. Here is the requirement however, The only requirement when you die and continue as a soul/spirit/ghost,god,etc. is that you hold hands with the person in front of you and the one who is behind you while walking up the hill to get there. The line has millions of souls/spirits,ghost/gods/ etc. walking up this hill who have all died approximately at the same time as you have. Give or take a few months let us say. but wait there is more.... The person who is holding your hand in front of you was a Muslim believer and the one behind you is a Christian believer. The person holding the hand behind the Christian believer is a Buddhist and the one holding hands in front of the Muslim is a Jewish believer. The person who is holding a hand in front of the Jewish believer is a Hindu as the person in front of the Hindu is a Wicca believer. The line is long with many many belief systems, yet all go to the same location of peace and happiness holding hands going up this hill to a place called safety. Now my question to you is: Would you continue to hold the hand of that person who doesn't believe in your belief system and continue to walk up the hill to peace and happiness? or Would you let go because you disagree that the person doesn't deserve to go where you go? or Would you care less, but acknowledge that we are all brothers and sisters afterall and everyone deserves to go there like you can? In a place of peace, we laugh together and embrace the instant recognition of complete equality. 
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indeed indeed indeed, each bow down on bended knee, when greater than self each doth meet, and greater say rise be free, we are all one in equality..........
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I woould not let go just because they held different beliefs, but I'd have to consider this peace and happiness stuff, sounds too boring.
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I would have no problem holding anyone's hand. I’m not so sure that feeling would be mutual however.
Besides, I tend to believe in reincarnation anyway. Don’t count on any pleasant and peaceful stays. Not long anyway. You will more than likely soon be catapulted right back into this as a baby. But, for the sake of this scenario, no problem holding anyone’s hand. Hand holding is sacred and part of many Pagan rituals. We are used to it. 
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Now my question to you is: Would you continue to hold the hand of that person who doesn't believe in your belief system and continue to walk up the hill to peace and happiness? or Would you let go because you disagree that the person doesn't deserve to go where you go? or Would you care less, but acknowledge that we are all brothers and sisters afterall and everyone deserves to go there like you can? None of the above. It is not my decision to determine who is worthy or "deserves" to go to heaven. If He has put me in the presence of others who are walking in God's will, I am not going to be paying attention to who is holding whose hand or what they call their "faith" - I am just going to be praying for the lost ones who don't get to make the journey with me. |
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A place of peace everyone goes to when we die
Delaware? |
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Edited by
splendidlife
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Wed 01/14/09 07:37 AM
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A place of peace everyone goes to when we die
Delaware? Miami? Oh, wait... That's God's Waiting Room.
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I would have no problem holding anyone's hand. I’m not so sure that feeling would be mutual however. Besides, I tend to believe in reincarnation anyway. Don’t count on any pleasant and peaceful stays. Not long anyway. You will more than likely soon be catapulted right back into this as a baby. But, for the sake of this scenario, no problem holding anyone’s hand. Hand holding is sacred and part of many Pagan rituals. We are used to it.
This reminds me of Being John Malkovich. |
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Edited by
splendidlife
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Wed 01/14/09 07:41 AM
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Now my question to you is: Would you continue to hold the hand of that person who doesn't believe in your belief system and continue to walk up the hill to peace and happiness? or Would you let go because you disagree that the person doesn't deserve to go where you go? or Would you care less, but acknowledge that we are all brothers and sisters afterall and everyone deserves to go there like you can? None of the above. It is not my decision to determine who is worthy or "deserves" to go to heaven. If He has put me in the presence of others who are walking in God's will, I am not going to be paying attention to who is holding whose hand or what they call their "faith" - I am just going to be praying for the lost ones who don't get to make the journey with me. NO ONE is lost... EVERYONE makes the "journey"... If not, who is to say that you'll actually "make the journey"? |
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Edited by
Krimsa
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Wed 01/14/09 07:37 AM
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 I would have no problem holding anyone's hand. I’m not so sure that feeling would be mutual however. Besides, I tend to believe in reincarnation anyway. Don’t count on any pleasant and peaceful stays. Not long anyway. You will more than likely soon be catapulted right back into this as a baby. But, for the sake of this scenario, no problem holding anyone’s hand. Hand holding is sacred and part of many Pagan rituals. We are used to it.
This reminds me of Being John Malkovich. That was a good movie. 
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Lets hold hands
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Edited by
Krimsa
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Wed 01/14/09 12:37 PM
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You can rotate the photo so its right side up if you want?
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funny how text said heaven was a gift from god, and that no human could earn it, so if "definitions" have been spoken that say one must earn it, how can these be what is most true?
if nothing can earn heaven, then how can heaven be aquired by certain good or bad deeds? the interpretations of words into half-truths causing fear is what create divide amoungst all things over what was never said....... such interpretations only come from wishing to establish self at the top, so naturally the mind see others at the bottom...... as innocent as this may have first come, seeing it was due to lack of accurate information, and being repsoken from the throne of many empires as good gospel, still the same, if one say who go to hell, or who go to heaven, then this only show whomever say such is itself trying to earn heaven, and so likewise trying to make others do the same? try to earn, what god say is free to all? a gift from god can be revoked? only human minds do such things...... there is no such thing that can be true that god is not unconditional love, which only verify the text itself, when saying heaven is a free gift without condition? but, since many things that exist, need to perpetuate such things to continue to exist, they are left as true, when no such thing was ever said...... text say the ultimate purpose of all humans learning from the doing of good and bad is to learn how to handle ultimate power, and not be corrupted? god is not some sant clause as religion make it out to be, which be first created from fear? then such things come from only misperceptions, that find mind satisfaction from making others afraid of god, which satisfy the destructive urge to convince itself it is worthy...... did not god say all men were equal in the sight of god? so then how will anything, that say it has achived some "status" with god speak what solve fear, which create misery, seeing itself as greater, as nothing can help any other living thing, less it see what it attempt to help as equal..... do some know more than others? of course, as each has benificial good knowing to offer all other things, but nothing good can be given away, if self think it's own good, make itself as HIGHER than others? many things spoken in days past were so for a good reason, but text say to spread the "good news"...... but all that flow forth from anything that say IT know god, be what contaminate and destroy and tear down, and create all misery for others..... WHY would anything have need to say IT know god, if it see true text, as the inner self know and totally believe all things know god, as how can anything NOT KNOW GOD, if it have life, as god be life and thought and breath? if something then think it DOES NOT KNOW GOD, then such boasting and divisive tactics are used on others as saying heaven can be earned.... how can one earn heaven, if it be within? can we take what is within OUT of something? heaven be immortal life, and describe many other things as well, but certainly knowing the statement god made ALL in his image, be the same as to say ALL are from god, so go BACK TO GOD, and this verify THAT IT IS A GIFT, SO WITHOUT REVOKING, as god CHANGE NOT, SO THE WORDS CANNNOT CHANGE, just man interpretations...... total misrepresentations of what even jesus spoke, as he said loosely, "many will say here is truth, there is truth, that is truth this be truth, but do not go, as man shall find the kingdom of heaven be within"...... would not this quoted above be the same as to say IF SOMETHING TELLS SELF IT MUST EARN, it be not the most truth from god? of course this only applying to any that believe in god...... text wrote that gods view is all are children, and if this very first simple equal truth is broken, then it create the FIRST FEAR within all, that make anything doubt and fear itself, which be what later create hellish things that humans create, NOT GOD....... if all are children of god, and god love the entire world, and one cannot see HOW, then this is not bad, as this certainly take some time, as the sight of evil can be great, but for those that believe knowing jesus be telling others how evil they are, then certainly it is not missed, that jesus only called false interpreters of text with anything that was less than kind, as even legion, said to be "possessed of the devil", he met with love, as he knew he ws screwed up, BUT, holy leaders that PUT SELF AT THE TOP, TO MAKE A BOTTOM, were given even great anger, further showing that the persuit of some actions of good words alone or good deeds alone are not what SOLVE....... if there is some god, and one ask anything it believe to be god, HOW others are not evil, then this be the only request first granted, as what god IF there be one, would give back answers to something that only ask for SELF INTEREST? is not the persuit of heaven for self a SELF INTEREST? the persuit of no hell self interest? self intersest be not bad, as nothing can be alive without self interest, so it only be a question of what self interest most be? why would any god that be perfect wisdom, answer back a question asked of it, if it be for self better? please..... will this give self GOOD THINGS? it be only the sight of others pain, and unhappiness, and torment, and misery, that ask god for some greater knowing of how to help, and even this, many do, but for the intention of heloing others to feel good about self, so of course, the mind will tell an answer that sounds good, like open a church or give money or preach some dogma or dcotrine to the poor or needy? but if all things HAVE GOD IN THEM, then the only good gift god give, IT THE SIGHT OF HOW GOD IS ALREADY IN THEM, and then THIS BE WHAT IS REPSOKEN.... jesus did not repeat the words spoken from past others said from god, and neither will anything that have good truth from god, as if there is understanding had, it has self knowiong from within how all are divine, each and all...... life come from god, so ALL ARE CHILD GODS WHEN DONE....... no perfect father can have a child, and be not of the same? so the tellings of HOW others are not children most fit the description of the anti christ, OR SIMPLY DEFINITIONS REPSOKEN THAT CONTRADICT WHAT CHRSIT SAID, and he said ALL, and tried to convince all of equal status of ALL..... love the enemey? treat thy neighnor as thyself? how is this not anything but pushing towards equality? as theyself? then all equal to self...... to make the knowing of god some MERIT OR DESERVING, only cloud the simple, if you want peace and happiness consider others as equal? how does one say I AM OF GOD, and this be equal? self has made self A GREAT GOD, and only fit the description of anything doing as such calling this as LUCIFER, wanted to be as GOD, thinking god think ITSELF AS GREAT? how does any unconditional love think itself as GREAT? so if some claim to be knowing god, then how can this be so, as indeed all are of god, but misperceptions even if they are innocently formed, and from lack of knowing, that destroy others, cannot be removed for there to be the true knowing of god, less they be spoken and shown how they are less that the most truth possible........... there is NOTHING that walk with god, and speak to god, that even say others are sinful, and going to hell, and must earn heaven? just ranting, but the pain of others from the thing purtorted to be as most true, give anything the rants....... ideas from a ignorant devil...... peace |
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