Why was that choice a conservative choice? Because a supposed conservative made it? That is not a strong argument. Tell me how the facets of conservatism in any way make that decision a must go to war, other wise your argument is flaccid.

Conservatism and G Bush are not the same thing. In fact I would say that the republican party leadership is not conservative in most respects.

But this isn't about conservatism is it? and that point was really just a dig wasn't it?

Tell me, when was Palestine created? When did the people that are called Palestinian move in to that area?

Tell me when was Israel created?

Tell me when did the people that are now called Israeli's move in to that area?

Tell me when did the violence start?

Tell me who where the leaders that got this violence started?

Tell me what are the organizations involved and there main agendas? (you can use quotes of those leaders from the previous question to get a good idea of the agenda's on either side btw . . . just trying to make this one easier for you)

Now if you can do that in short sentences, we can all mark out the answers and see clearly why there is still violence going on in Gaza.

Lehi (IPA: ['lɛxi], Hebrew acronym for Lohamei Herut Israel, "Fighters for the Freedom of Israel", לח"י - לוחמי חירות ישראל), also known as the Stern Gang, a term coined by the British[1], was an armed underground Zionist faction in Mandatory Palestine, whose goal was to forcibly evict the British authorities from Palestine, allowing unrestricted immigration of Jews and the formation of a Jewish state. Initially called the National Military Organization in Israel, the name of the group was later changed to Lehi.

Lehi was described as a terrorist organization[4] by the British authorities and United Nations mediator Ralph Bunche. Lehi carried out the Nov 1944 assassination in Cairo of Lord Moyne along with other attacks on the British authorities and Palestinian Arabs. The newly-formed Israeli government banned the organization under an anti-terrorism law passed three days after the Sept 1948 assassination of the UN mediator Folke Bernadotte.

Israel granted a general amnesty to Lehi members on 14 February 1949 and in 1980 the group was honored by the institution of the Lehi ribbon, a military decoration the organization's former members are entitled to wear.

I guess it just depends on who the terrorism is for!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehi_(group)

Very true. And what is the common thread among all of these groups?

Terror and martyrdom for the formation of a Jewish State!

Lehi, better known as the Bear Stern Gang believed the British should be defeated and the Nazi's manipulated!

He advocated helping the Nazi's during WWII to defeat the British! He even worked underground for the Nazi's during the war to this end! Negotiating with them to help establish a Jewish State!

I guess it didnt matter what they did or who they manipulated to achieve their goal!
Later it was the US who was manipulated. Im saying this should end and end now! We are not the Jews patsy. We can not dissolve the State of Israel but we can force them to withdraw to the 1948 division of Palestine boundary and establish an equal Palestinian State.

The group believed in its early years that its goals would be achieved by finding a strong international ally that would expel the British from Palestine in return for help from the Jewish military; this would in turn require the creation of a broad and organised military force "demonstrating its desire for freedom through military operations."

An article titled "Terror" in He Khazit (The Front, a Lehi underground newspaper) argued as follows:

Neither Jewish ethics nor Jewish tradition can disqualify terrorism as a means of combat. We are very far from having any moral qualms as far as our national war goes. We have before us the command of the Torah, whose morality surpasses that of any other body of laws in the world: "Ye shall blot them out to the last man." But first and foremost, terrorism is for us a part of the political battle being conducted under the present circumstances, and it has a great part to play: speaking in a clear voice to the whole world, as well as to our wretched brethren outside this land, it proclaims our war against the occupier. We are particularly far from this sort of hesitation in regard to an enemy whose moral perversion is admitted by all.

Like the Irgun whose leader was Begin!
One of the original leaders of The Lehi was Yitzhak Shamir!
Another PM of Israel!

Israel is an Illegal State formed by terrorism and led by Terrorists!

For them to condemn anything done by the Palestians in self-defense, who's homeland they stole, is a joke!

Wow, talk about irrational posts.

I must have missed that memo.

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sure. list of countries who believe israel is a terrorist state:

(Fanta)

list of countries who will acknowledge that Hamas is a terrorist organization:

(EVERYBODY ELSE)

Look around again!
Outside the synagogue.

OK!

from Yahoo Answers!

Is Israel a Terrorist State?

Best Answer:

"Ask yourself these questions....

1)If the Palestinians put down their weapons tommorow....will the fighting stop?

2)If Isreal puts down their weapons today will the fighting stop?

I believe the answers are Yes and No in that order.

Many palestinians don't even recognize the Isrealis as human let alone a respected soverign nation. It's all very funny when you consider that jews were living in that area before Islam was even a religion."