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But simply put, WWE exercises certain restraints when it comes to their wrestlers and what they can do in the ring. Since 2000, it was as if many of the wrestlers had lost their skill inexplicably. You can dispute me on that, but the spate of injuries WWE stars were suffering in 2001 is what led the company to adopt a less demanding "WWE-style." I understood the motivation, but their decision was having an adverse effect on the ring action, and don't wrestlers know the risks? They even have developmental leagues in which wrestlers are taught the WWE style. Wrestlers coming in from other companies are encouraged to "adapt" to this style---that is discard each and every little thing that is unique about that wrestler in exchange for a character. Said star is then pressured to change their in-ring styles to be less risky and therefore less entertaining.
Hmmm...for the most part, I don't have much to argue about with you. On this particular point, however, I beg to differ. If you had been watching at all, you would have seen that the " restraints " have been removed from a lot of the guys. Evan Bourne is one of the most exciting, high flying risk takers in ANY form of wrestling. I would be willing to put him up against any of the performers you could name in TNA and he would definitely hold his own if not outshine them totally. Rey Mysterio has also been unleashed to do some very innovative and high risk moves. Kofi Kingston is pretty impressive as well. I totally agree with that. TNA may have some great workers, and I won't argue that point. What I will argue, though, is that, at this point, TNA simply doesn't have ENOUGH of them. You mentioned 7 minute matches and 30 minute talk fests. You also mentioned in an earlier post that most of the exposure to TNA you have gotten is through PPV. Well...I DVR TNA Impact every week. That show is as bad, if not worse, for long pointless promos and shorter matches than WWE ever was. I will not argue the fact that WWE used to be that way. But since you haven't watched in two years, you haven't seen that Vince pretty much realized that his show ( Raw ) was going downhill. Much has been done to solve the problems. It's very rare that you see a really short match anymore, unless it's to give a guy who is supposed to be " dominating " a push. Watching both Raw and Impact ( I never have been a Smackdown fan, and Vicky Guererro being the GM seals it for me to NOT watch ) I can honestly say that for all it's faults, Raw is still superior to TNA. TNA is closing the gap, but they aren't there yet. As far as all the " This is awesome " chants on TNA...they have their own stage at Universal Studios. The audience is made up of strictly TNA fans. TNA does not travel nearly as much as WWE. Unless TNA starts doing shows around the country on a consistent basis, it will never become as popular as WWE. I agree with you on the Evan Bourne point; I watched him a lot in his ROH days, when he was Matt Sydal, and he impressed the hell out of me. I am glad WWE hasn't had him tone down his style, although I hope they don't give in to the temptation to do so in the future. If WWE has improved the way they do things as you say, I perhaps will give Raw or Smackdown another look at some point. I will however remain skeptical for now, until I see proof of this for myself. Also, I will not argue that a lot of what TNA does is just wrong...Yet it is what TNA does right that causes me to have so much faith in them. Historically speaking, the number-two promotion sometimes tries too hard to mimick WWE in some aspects. WCW was guilty of this ad nauseum, and TNA falls prey to this on occasion as well. I blame Vince Russo for this. His ideas remain stupid at times and it is only when he is censored appropriately that he becomes a benefit. Sadly, I can see his fingerprints on much of what TNA does. Fortunately, TNA is not giving him the amount of power as WCW did. I blame Russo for killing WCW. He is one of those that was directly responsible for the stagnation of the business in the early 2000s. Personally, I say lock both Russo and Brian Gewirtz into a big iron box and sufficate them with carbon monoxide.  A little extreme perhaps, but it wouldn't hurt the wrestling industry.
I may look at WWE again, but sadly, I fear they will always be dead to me. Fortunately, I guess, I have found plenty of alternatives to WWE, many of which weren't present in 2000-01. In all seriousness, I would suggest that you watch Raw if you are looking to give WWE another shot. I will say that they do get into spots where they have long, drawn out promos ( mainly by Chris Jericho and Randy Orton these days ) but they are not nearly as common as they used to be. |
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im a huge wrestling fan i watch all three brands raw ,smackdown, ecw and of course tna my fav wrestlers are triple h,randy orton,edge,undertaker,mickie james,and melina i like the heels mostly lol did any one catch what happend during the tag match last monday with john morrison, the miz ,rey and kofi when rey dropped kicked john morrison in his back 2 set him up for the 619 morrison had 2 crawl the rest of the way 2 the second rope it looked so fake i kno it is fake but damn still i guess rey didnt drop kick him right so he would land on the rope i think they should have continued the match cuz i just didnt buy that lol There are, occasionally, moments like that. A guy will miss a move, or the timing will be way off and it just looks terrible. It happens. Especially when it's guys that don't normally work together all that much. |
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I forgot to mention this but in my opinion, "The Man" is and will always be Triple H.
I will say again the the hottest diva is Kelly Kelly but to me for some reason last week Stephanie McMahon just looked HOT!! |
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I forgot to mention this but in my opinion, "The Man" is and will always be Triple H. I will say again the the hottest diva is Kelly Kelly but to me for some reason last week Stephanie McMahon just looked HOT!! I have always thought that Stephanie had a certain hotness all her own. |
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I havent watched wrestleing since Trish Stratus left...
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I havent watched wrestleing since Trish Stratus left... She made an appearance on RAW a couple of weeks ago. |
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I havent watched wrestleing since Trish Stratus left... She made an appearance on RAW a couple of weeks ago. For real??? I loved her, all of the divas prance around and slap each other, and SHE beats the F*** out of them. Theres afew that can fight, but shes the only one that could fight that didnt look like.... wel Chyna 
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Yeah. She wound up being in a mixed tag match with John Cena against Santino Marella and Beth Phoenix.
There are a couple of divas who are pretty good right now, but I have to say that most of the more talented women, wrestling wise, are in TNA. |
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What was the outcome of the match?
I KNEW they would bring Trish back to fight Beth!!!!! I also liked Lita (before injury) and Gail Kim was great. And even Molly was good. |
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I'm a huge wrestling fan. Been that way for years. The problem with that is that I'm always rooting for the guys who end up jobbing lol. Many of my favorites are sadly underdogs.
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What was the outcome of the match? I KNEW they would bring Trish back to fight Beth!!!!! I also liked Lita (before injury) and Gail Kim was great. And even Molly was good. Cena and Stratus won. They were in Toronto so it was pretty much a given. |
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I'm a huge wrestling fan. Been that way for years. The problem with that is that I'm always rooting for the guys who end up jobbing lol. Many of my favorites are sadly underdogs. Oooooo....were you an Al Snow fan?? LMAO |
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I have a dvd of the ppv with Trishes last match
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I'm a huge wrestling fan. Been that way for years. The problem with that is that I'm always rooting for the guys who end up jobbing lol. Many of my favorites are sadly underdogs. Oooooo....were you an Al Snow fan?? LMAO Actually yes lmao |
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I'm a huge wrestling fan. Been that way for years. The problem with that is that I'm always rooting for the guys who end up jobbing lol. Many of my favorites are sadly underdogs. Oooooo....were you an Al Snow fan?? LMAO Actually yes lmao As much as I hate to admit it...I am too...lmao |
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Edited by
Blaze1978
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Thu 01/15/09 04:04 PM
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I'm a huge wrestling fan. Been that way for years. The problem with that is that I'm always rooting for the guys who end up jobbing lol. Many of my favorites are sadly underdogs. I started out that way. Two of my favorites going way back were Virgil and (ugh) Doink the Clown. What was wrong with me?
What's worse is I actually believed they had a chance of winning. |
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Edited by
Blaze1978
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Thu 01/15/09 04:03 PM
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I'm a huge wrestling fan. Been that way for years. The problem with that is that I'm always rooting for the guys who end up jobbing lol. Many of my favorites are sadly underdogs. Oooooo....were you an Al Snow fan?? LMAO Actually yes lmao As much as I hate to admit it...I am too...lmao Hey, there was a time when Al Snow wasn't such an underdog...sadly I guess that was prior to his WWE days... I've never been able to forgive him since he wrestled as Avatar briefly in '95. For those who don't remember, as Avatar he wrestled in an outfit that looked identical to the one Hayabusa wore, although that was more WWF marketings fault. Maybe they were interested in Hayabusa? 
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to even claim that ecw is the same as old days is a joke/ vince has ruin ecw.
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to even claim that ecw is the same as old days is a joke/ vince has ruin ecw. I would strongly agree with that sentiment. (timewarps back to the days when Mike Awesome was ECW champ and Sabu was throwing his body through tables) |
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