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What do you Christian people think of those?
Just curious.......... And if you dont know what they are,look them up on google news, tons of articles. |
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is that a posh dinner and dance for them that chase, and those who are
chaste? |
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I'm not Christian, but as long as the participants are sincere, and
consciously, freely chose to do this, I think its great. I don't buy into religions judgmentalism of sex, nor the idea that promiscuity is inherently immoral, but conscious self-restraint does have its advantages. |
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It just seems to me that if sexual purity is so important, why no ball
or funtion like that for the sons and moms? Why is it just the girls? Its a bit shady and wierd, i wouldnt want my dad to hold a symbolic key to my "chastity belt" and then give it to my husband to own. but that is just me. |
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Here is my take on the issue of chastity. First I don't condone any
CHILD having sex. Next when do we consider a child to be an adult? There are girls as young as 15 and 16 getting married. We are living longer and healthier lives that ever before in written history. There is more available to us in terms of travel, technology and creature comforts than ever before. Since our nation, the world can be so easily traversed many, many loose the day to day family lifestyle. We have become much more social because we work, we all work, women, teenagers, even retired poeple. This brings us face to face with all the possible ways our lives COULD BE. Most of those I know now in their 30's were married at some point, usually between 18 and 24 and many have kids. They are no longer married, in fact I know many men who were divorced in their early twenties and in their late 30's are still not even seeing someone seriously. I KNOW I KNOW, SO WHAT. Here's the thing. If we try too hard to force our kids, our girls away from one of the most powerful driving forces of nature - sexuality, we are surely only setting them up for one of those short term, young marriages. Now when they finally get a taste of their sexuality, when they see what is available to them, when they see the pleasures of friends and peers, do ya really think they're ever going back to the celibate chalkboard? Wouldn't we all rather have well educated kids, who know how to take care of themselves in a sexual setting, rather than to have a young daughter with 1 or 2 kids and divorced by they time they're 22? Not every kid has sex when they're teenagers, I think that's the most we can hope for, the rest is education and trust. |
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really?
my church practices courting. there is always someone sitting BETWEEN a dating couple. i went to a big wedding a while back, mabe 500 people. they did not kiss after the vows... why? they had never kissed and didnt want thier first to be infront of a crowd. you CAN instill morals sucessfully, but you need to be very serious about it. most parents who let the public fool system babysit thier kids rather than raising them have little control, but its of thier own doing in my opinion. it doesent take a village, but rather two old school parents to raise a child. |
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Ram, I hope this couple leads an extremely sheltered life or maybe I
should hope that the sex and intimacy they find between them is completely satisfying for both. It's a long, long life if this is not so. Part of compatibility is sexual and at a young age when the rage is there and the satisfaction is not, it can spell doom for the relationship. Choose to believe it or not, but statistics say it is true. |
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IT ALL COME DOWN TO SEX, HUH RED? Theres so much more.
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No, it comes down to compatibility, and not just in one area. There are
people for whom sex is not in the equation, but Ram, I think they are far outnumberd. And in all honesty, I believe these people exist with or with a Christian belief, just as there are many who would forsake thier particular Christian upbringing for a fulfilling live in the here and now. If you can't enforse the law, maybe it needs to be changed, or maybe the law was wrong, or maybe it was never meant to last as long at it has. On the other hand, one can always condemn those who don't live within the morals of the faith they were raised in, but then again, it's easy enought to find a faith that will accept them again. You see, the choice to accept, or not to, to judge or not to , is not in your book, it's in you. |
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"Purity Balls?"
Whats that? Are they blue? What happens when you lose your marbles? |
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This is off topic a little bit...
Neither myself or daughter are religious in the sense of organized... There are school dances, with adults involved, here... They have a blast. One thing I am continuously proud of, is my daughter's integrity of self. I'm not so sure anything will stop teens from having sex if they decide it is what they are going to do. Whatever your religion... And, none I know of have stopped it. It's difficult enough to keep them safe, or try. And, to help them through the roughest time before the 20s hit, lol. Instilling worth, integrity, and paying attention, and being involved without "cramping thier style" LMAO! |
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>> Here's the thing. If we try too hard to force our kids, our girls away
from one of the most powerful driving forces of nature - sexuality, we are surely only setting them up for one of those short term, young marriages. Now when they finally get a taste of their sexuality, when they see what is available to them, when they see the pleasures of friends and peers, do ya really think they're ever going back to the celibate chalkboard? Red, the pivotal word in this paragraph, for me, is "force". This is like any area of self expression or human relationships, if a person does not sincerely want to do something, but feels coerced by an outside force (like parents, or whatever), then unfortunate things are likely to happen down the line. So in this way I agree with you. But the purity ball (as I understand it) is not necessarily about coercion, it can also be a voluntary, symbolic celebration of shared values. And just like some teenagers should be allowed to choose sexual exploration, those who appreciate the wisdom of self restraint should be able to choose to participate in, and benefit from, a formalized symbolic celebration/declaration of -their choice-. Especially in the modern world, where there is so little (none?) mainstream cultural support for their decision! |
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Autumn, you make a good point about the focus on girls, and the
implication of 'ownership' of women. Feminist ideas have become so pervasive in our society, it would be interesting to see how/whether the 'Purity Balls' people rationalize this as anything other than sexist. I mean, sure, there is also a 'male' (the father) that is making a 'commitment' here, but it still strikes me as sexist. |
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