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Topic: Conducting a Debate (Peaceful or Warlike)
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Wed 12/10/08 07:13 PM
"Praise, flattery, exaggerated manners and fine, high-sounding words were not part of Lakota politeness. Excessive manners were put down as insincere, and the constant talker was considered rude and thoughtless. Conversation was never begun at once, not in a hurried manner. No one was quick with a question, no matter how important, and no one was pressed for an answer. A pause giving time for thought was the truly courteous way of beginning and conducting a conversation. Silence was meaningful with the Lakota, and his granting a space of silence to the speech-maker and his own moment of silence before talking was done in the practice of true politeness and regard for the rule that, “thought comes before speech.”


1. Are you a constant talker or more of a listener?

2. Do you allow others to express their mind or do you take over the arena not allowing other thoughts to develop?

3. Do you have alot of temper when you don't agree, or do you remain calm and try to reason?

4. Do you hold a grudge the next day after a argument, or do you forget about it and move on?

johncarl's photo
Wed 12/10/08 07:20 PM
wow that hit home
i talk a lot
i take over
i have a temper
i hold a grudge.
is their hope for me

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Wed 12/10/08 07:24 PM
1. I am definitely more of a listener. Most of the time, I don't have much to say. I just keep my mouth closed unless I'm needed to say something.

2. I am open to what people's opinions are. It's always nice to see another side of a situation or an idea.

3. When there is a case where disagreement comes up, I don't get mad about it. It's pretty childish to have a temper tantrum when things don't go your way. Reasoning solves most problems.

4. Some cases it's "forgive but never forget". It's pointless to hold a grudge over a situation. I'd rather learn from it and remember so that next time I wouldn't find myself in that same situation. I would know how to handle it.

YL

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Wed 12/10/08 07:26 PM

wow that hit home
i talk a lot
i take over
i have a temper
i hold a grudge.
is their hope for me


No hope! You are doomedlaugh

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Wed 12/10/08 07:27 PM

1. I am definitely more of a listener. Most of the time, I don't have much to say. I just keep my mouth closed unless I'm needed to say something.

2. I am open to what people's opinions are. It's always nice to see another side of a situation or an idea.

3. When there is a case where disagreement comes up, I don't get mad about it. It's pretty childish to have a temper tantrum when things don't go your way. Reasoning solves most problems.

4. Some cases it's "forgive but never forget". It's pointless to hold a grudge over a situation. I'd rather learn from it and remember so that next time I wouldn't find myself in that same situation. I would know how to handle it.

YL


Great answersflowerforyou

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Wed 12/10/08 07:30 PM


1. I am definitely more of a listener. Most of the time, I don't have much to say. I just keep my mouth closed unless I'm needed to say something.

2. I am open to what people's opinions are. It's always nice to see another side of a situation or an idea.

3. When there is a case where disagreement comes up, I don't get mad about it. It's pretty childish to have a temper tantrum when things don't go your way. Reasoning solves most problems.

4. Some cases it's "forgive but never forget". It's pointless to hold a grudge over a situation. I'd rather learn from it and remember so that next time I wouldn't find myself in that same situation. I would know how to handle it.

YL


Great answersflowerforyou


Great topics. happy

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Wed 12/10/08 07:31 PM


wow that hit home
i talk a lot
i take over
i have a temper
i hold a grudge.
is their hope for me


No hope! You are doomedlaugh
i just goggled it wow i like the stuff they say.i am yet a young grasshopper.laugh

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Wed 12/10/08 07:31 PM

1. Are you a constant talker or more of a listener?


Definitely the listener. Everyone's advisor and counselor. It's been that way since I was 14.


2. Do you allow others to express their mind or do you take over the arena not allowing other thoughts to develop?


What I have found is that people NEED to talk, to express themselves -- whether it's to hash over an idea, ask a question, or just to vent. The greatest gift I can give them is my time and complete attention.


3. Do you have alot of temper when you don't agree, or do you remain calm and try to reason?


Temper does nothing but create obstacles and heighten walls.


4. Do you hold a grudge the next day after a argument, or do you forget about it and move on?


Grudges are for married people. I may struggle with the occasional grudgette -- it goes away.





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Wed 12/10/08 07:46 PM

1. Are you a constant talker or more of a listener?

2. Do you allow others to express their mind or do you take over the arena not allowing other thoughts to develop?

3. Do you have alot of temper when you don't agree, or do you remain calm and try to reason?

4. Do you hold a grudge the next day after a argument, or do you forget about it and move on?



1. I'm a nervous talker. Periods of silence in conversation are uncomfortable to me. I'm not sure why.
2. I do listen well when someone is talking.
3. Temper? Me?
4. I don't hold a grudge, I avoid what annoys me.

Obviously, I'm not Lakota. Interesting story, though!

glasses

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Wed 12/10/08 10:00 PM
1. Listener, I hate talkingdrinker

2. Enjoy other peoples thoughts and ideas, drinker

3. Temper , hmmmmm, who me bigsmile Most guys must always work on their tempers.noway

4. I try not to hold a grudge, I may hold one, I have held them. Nothing is gained from holding such things. drinker

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Wed 12/10/08 10:04 PM
Cognac for smiless drinker

Whisky for me drinker smokin


Everyone else belly up to the Bar, I'm putting it on Patsfans tab anyway laugh drinker

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Wed 12/10/08 10:14 PM
Edited by SamaraNJ on Wed 12/10/08 10:15 PM


1. Are you a constant talker or more of a listener?

2. Do you allow others to express their mind or do you take over the arena not allowing other thoughts to develop?

3. Do you have alot of temper when you don't agree, or do you remain calm and try to reason?

4. Do you hold a grudge the next day after a argument, or do you forget about it and move on?


I love a good debate..

I like to get my point across but I also listen because I like hearing what other people think of the topic..

I want people to express their minds.. I think if we don't have the same thoughts and ideas it sometimes could be more interesting that speaking with someone who just agrees with everything..

I only have a temper.. well not even really a temper.. just annoyed when I accidentally find someone who doesn't respect people with different opinions... For some reason they always have to try to insult others.. I wouldn't get a temper about their opinion unless it was made from ignorance and they continue to defend it.. either way I move on..

I don't hold a grudge.. I move on immediately.. Im just looking for a good debate.. not an argument..

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Wed 12/10/08 10:39 PM
4. Do you hold a grudge the next day after a argument, or do you forget about it and move on?


Wow. Well...my ex and I were arguing once ( a real knock down drag out slobberknocker ) and she told me " Don't touch me ".

So I didn't. For 3 months.

: shrugs :

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Wed 12/10/08 11:30 PM

wow that hit home
i talk a lot
i take over
i have a temper
i hold a grudge.
is their hope for me


You recognize it, so yes I think there is hope.

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Thu 12/11/08 08:53 AM

Cognac for smiless drinker

Whisky for me drinker smokin


Everyone else belly up to the Bar, I'm putting it on Patsfans tab anyway laugh drinker


We say "Prost" in our countrydrinker

Prost = Cheers

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Thu 12/11/08 08:54 AM

4. Do you hold a grudge the next day after a argument, or do you forget about it and move on?


Wow. Well...my ex and I were arguing once ( a real knock down drag out slobberknocker ) and she told me " Don't touch me ".

So I didn't. For 3 months.

: shrugs :



laugh laugh

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Thu 12/11/08 09:08 AM

"Praise, flattery, exaggerated manners and fine, high-sounding words were not part of Lakota politeness. Excessive manners were put down as insincere, and the constant talker was considered rude and thoughtless. Conversation was never begun at once, not in a hurried manner. No one was quick with a question, no matter how important, and no one was pressed for an answer. A pause giving time for thought was the truly courteous way of beginning and conducting a conversation. Silence was meaningful with the Lakota, and his granting a space of silence to the speech-maker and his own moment of silence before talking was done in the practice of true politeness and regard for the rule that, “thought comes before speech.”


1. Are you a constant talker or more of a listener?

i'm more introverted, so listener

2. Do you allow others to express their mind or do you take over the arena not allowing other thoughts to develop?

i like to see that there's a balance

3. Do you have alot of temper when you don't agree, or do you remain calm and try to reason?

i'm more objective, but i certainly can get obstreperous in an effort to get a different emotional response to hopefully lead things to further conceptualization

4. Do you hold a grudge the next day after a argument, or do you forget about it and move on?


i might hold a grudge if i thought that things were purposely made too personal

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Thu 12/11/08 09:17 AM
I dig talking about stuff, especially politics and history

I hate people who want to debate things like that though. Instead of discussing things that are and things that have happened and what may happen next they are all about scoring debating points and make everything confrontational. People disagree all the time. Disagreement doesn't mean you have to debunk the other persons opinions or beliefs and prove yourself victorious

Mostly that is what I see in the political threads so it is useless to try and hold a conversation here

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Thu 12/11/08 09:23 AM

I dig talking about stuff, especially politics and history

I hate people who want to debate things like that though. Instead of discussing things that are and things that have happened and what may happen next they are all about scoring debating points and make everything confrontational. People disagree all the time. Disagreement doesn't mean you have to debunk the other persons opinions or beliefs and prove yourself victorious

Mostly that is what I see in the political threads so it is useless to try and hold a conversation here


i wish Debate classes were mandatory in high school

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Thu 12/11/08 09:26 AM


I dig talking about stuff, especially politics and history

I hate people who want to debate things like that though. Instead of discussing things that are and things that have happened and what may happen next they are all about scoring debating points and make everything confrontational. People disagree all the time. Disagreement doesn't mean you have to debunk the other persons opinions or beliefs and prove yourself victorious

Mostly that is what I see in the political threads so it is useless to try and hold a conversation here


i wish Debate classes were mandatory in high school


maybe, but some people seem to think that "debating" is all about scoring points and winning the conversation.

but then there are a lot of things I think should be mandatory in school too. music, art, foreign language

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