Ban on partial birth abortion....you know....where the doctor turns the baby around and pulls the baby out breach, feet first......till only the head remains in the mother's body.....then stabs a hole in the baby's neck and then gets a suction tube and SUCKS OUT THE BABY'S BRAINS?

The act that obama and clinton both are for....do not tell me about 'saving the mother's life' I shall not go into detail about what is done to her for the doctor to be able to reach in and turn the baby around feet first....google and find out.......but that alone COULD KILL A WOMAN..... but pray tell......where can doing that brutal act justify anything?

You said one.......

oh god........im done with this thread

1) Bush was supposed to have people looking for Bin Laden and changed the subject by going after Saddam.

2) The tax cuts to the people who make our jobs - that didn't work, did it?

Well, Bin Laden sure has been too busy running to attack us again, eh?

and, the unemployment rate, which grew with a bust out on tech stocks in 2001-2002 dropped significantly in 2003-2007 (with nothing to give the credit to other than tax cuts) where it was at a pretty low rate of 4.7%..and stayed there until earlier this year.

I think I said above that I didn't agree with Bush passing up the opportunity to place restrictions on the housing market, but the democratically run congress shares just as much responsibility in not setting this up. Therefore, the fallout in the banking industry as a direct result of the housing market (Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac-welfare loaning agencies practically) has caused unemployment to once again rise. It's at 6.7% right now.

Want to raise taxes now?

If I'm a business owner and you forced me to pay 100K more in taxes a year, guess what? people are getting laid off or my prices are going to be jacked up to account for that extra money, and I will still have my profit.

How hard is it to follow this concept? Taking the money from the rich is really just taking it from the poor, because the business owners still have the power to get that money back from you by laying you off or making you, as a consumer, pay more.

But this is all off subject, his time in office was spent conservatively, and if he wants to have a drink from time to time, I may just have a glass of wine myself and salute him.

This is about the drinking issue, not whether or not someone believes in the conservative agenda.

Big business was given those tax cuts with the idea that they would be doing more hiring. Instead they kept the money for themselves.

Did Bush get arrested for driving drunk about 20 years ago?
I'm not sure.

If he was alcoholic back then, it only takes one drink for a relapse. That would be my big concern. He's still the President. But...I don't know if he was an alcoholic or not. I've just heard rumors.

The unemployment statistics show otherwise. Jobs were given, it fell from 5.9% to 4.7%... with the threat of tax increases next year from the Obama campaign, along with the slumping economy, we've seen it rise again to 6.7% this time.

Right, but if you follow that thinking, then you have to say Obama is going to be a coke-head president. I'm not prepared to go there on either president/pres.-elect.

I disagree that unemployment rose due to the threat of tax increases from Obama next year. Unemployment started rising before Obama. Construction was even going down in Florida several years ago.

If I follow that thinking, I wouldn't be saying that Obama is going to be a coke-head President.

Bush has had drinking problems in his past. I've seen no evidence of Obama being addicted to coke.

The rise was from the lending markets falling out, banking.. but if I was an owner, I might ride things out with my employees for a while to see if the banks could bounce back up. However, we've just elected a guy who says he's going to raise taxes, so..I might just go ahead and lay my employees off since either way, I'm probably going to be out some money.

google: Obama cocaine pot use videos

I agree that it rose more after that fall-out. But..it started before that.

Obama used coke and pot in school. That doesn't make an addict.

Exactly my point. Never said he was. And by the same token, I can not make assumptions about the topic of this thread, especially with a phoney blog to back it up.

Think we can shake hands and let it die..

That's why I said that I wasn't sure about Bush's drinking but I've heard rumors.

Since we started this, I've done some searching on Bush's drinking. Haven't finished. I'm looking for unbiased information.

Shake.

hahaha good luck with THAT

I'm trying.

NOOOOO then we might all stay sober

I guess the $4 a gallon gas prices were during Mr. Bush's hangover times.....????? Or was that when he was drunk?

Because it does not seem like he was much giving a sh!t about "We the people" at the moment. (For about 8 years) Oh, that's right, he has ties to oil investments... maybe somebody should look into that... hmmmmm.

Worst President this country has ever had, and I REAL-L-L-LY hated Clinton... so that says a lot. At this point, we might be better off to throw in the towel and go back to being run by the British.

I can say this...

At least people were working when Clinton was getting blow jobs in the oval office. But the price of a good rifle to defend your home went up 400%....