These "sports", if you want to call them that, need to be banned.

They are nothing but pure violence, and instructors try to brainwash you into thinking otherwise. Now I have nothing against cardio kickboxing, which I teach at the gym I work at, (im a certified personal trainer along with licensed massage therapist) but that has nothing to do with hitting a person. Instructors try to say its about scoring points, when its really not. These instructors will say anything to make it seem safe. They start you off wearing protection, going slow, then after awhile you take the gear off, hit harder, and feel like its no big deal because its about "scoring points". But you need to ask yourself, "whats the point of me kicking him in the head?" etc. Even I enjoy going to the gym and hitting bags and dummies for fitness, but Ive said several times to these people, 'no way in hell am i gonna hit a human being, im not a human co.ckfighter".

These instructors try to use words like focus, balance, concentration, coordination, discipline, self-control (stuff you can learn in ANY sport, lol) to make it seem like a good sport. They say its not about fighting, even though....ummm, its called "fighting" lol. And the people who do it are called "fighters", and UFC stands for Ultimate FIGHTING Championship. I bet you never thought about that, did you? No, cuz people these days dont really think "outside the box".

What do swimmers do? They swim. Runners? They run. Cyclists? They bicycle. Shooters? They shoot. What do plumbers do? They plumb. What does a runningback do? He runs. So, what do "fighters" do? They FIGHT. I thought fighting was assault, isnt assault illegal?

When a soccer player scores a goal, why does he run all over the field in excitment? Because hes excited at his focus, balance, coordination? No, hes excited he scored a goal. So why do "fighters" parade around the cage after knocking out someone? Because their excited to have great focus, balance, coordination, etc? No. Theyre excited they just whooped someones arse. Is that so hard for people to realize? In any other sport, if someone is injured, everyone kneels and prays together, like when Anquan Boldin got knocked out in the NFL game weeks ago. In MMA, someone is always on the ground injured after a fight, and the whole crowd is cheering. Wow, thats disgusting.

Have you ever watched a UFC "fight"? UWC "fight?" Pride "fight"? What are they doing? FIGHTING. Why do they stare each other down beforehand? Because "dude, i got better concentration than you!"....no, they stare each other down because they wanna whoop the other guys' arse.

Have you ever looked up in a dictionary what "boxing", "kickboxing", and "martial arts" means? Boxing means "FIGHTING with the fists", kickboxing means "a martial art and sport of attack and defense", and martial arts means "art of war". Hmmm, art of war? Why is "art of war" being taught to people who arent in war, or to 5 year olds??? And why is it that everytime you tell THIS to people in mma and all those sports, they get so mean and defensive, i thought MMA taught RESPECT??

Over and over again, people in these sports talk about how safe it is, how its MUCH safer than gymnastics, soccer, hockey, etc. Again, what do hockey players do? Play hockey. What do soccer players do? Play soccer. What do fighters do? FIGHT. Compare the amount of blood spilt in MMA, to soccer. Compare the amount of people passed out in MMA, to gymnastics. NOW which is worse? If someone dies in soccer, its not as a result of SOCCER. There have been deaths in football, but because the guy got a heart attack or something. In MMA, the deaths theyve had, were a result of the FIGHT. In soccer if a guy ends up on a stretcher, its not because someone else purposely (intentionally) broke his foot...but in MMA, it IS because someone intentionally broke his foot. And, why on earth do they allow you to CHOKE people???

If soccer, football, hockey, etc has more injuries, perhaps its because soccer/football/hockey players compete on a WEEKLY basis. Whereas in MMA and all those violent sports, they compete every month or every few months.

So MMA teaches balance, focus, concentration, coordination, body conditioning? So does every other sport. So how come soccer players can play for 2 hours and not get worn out? But in MMA, Kimbo Slice gets knocked out in 14 seconds by a no-name guy with pink hair. Tim Sylvia gets choked out within a minute or two by Fedor. And some people get knocked out in a matter of seconds. Yeah, sounds to me like they have incredible body conditioning. How come Brock Lesnar went out for football and couldnt even make the practice squad for the Vikings? The best athletes in the world are the ones who do Triathlons and Tour De France. YOU try riding a bike for 6 hours up and down mountains going as fast as they to.

MMA isnt about fighting? So why did Chuck Lidell say in an NBC interview, "we wouldnt be doing this stuff if we didnt have issues". Why did Matt Serra say "we had a drink and went our seperate ways, i dont fight friends". But, MMA isnt about fighting, right? Cant someone compete their focus, balance, concentration, coordination with a friend? Of course! Why did Fedor say "every man i fight, i view him as someone trying to send me back to my days of poverty, so this man must be eliminated"...hmm, but MMA isnt about fighting, right? If MMA is about respect, self-control, discipline....then uhh, why are they fighting? Have any of you ever thought about THAT before??

Ive seen a few MMA shows, like Fight Science, Combat Sports on Comcast...and the whole show was basically showing every way to hurt a person, how to hit them hard enough it damages their body, or gives them a concussion.....wow, thats sickening. Not to mention most people in these sports that I know, I ask them why they do it, and they say its because they love fighting, kicking people's arsees, hurting people legally. These are the same people who want the "Gladiator" days of Ancient Rome to come back, where people KILLED each other. Thats so gross.

Who watches UFC and all these pointless sports? MOST are young people, Rednecks, College kids, Drunks, party goers, "Bad arsees", people in the military who love fighting, troublemakers. If MMA was such a safe, good sport...why is it banned in many states? Why isnt it mainstream? Why isnt MMA in the olympics? Boxing and tae kwon do are, but they are on the verge of being taken out of the olympics. EliteXC was on CBS twice, and now its done. Why?

Many times, MMA people try to say, "its about self defense. If someone came in your home and tried to attack your mother, would u just sit there?"....uhh, what on EARTH does some criminal intruding in my house and attacking my mother, have to do with me getting in a cage with some random guy who did NOTHING to me? I have my own martial art, its called "ball kicking". If a guy attacks you, u kick him in the nuts and you win, but that according to MMA guys and "tough guys" is called "being a *****"...because yes, if some guy has a knife or gun to you, you DONT want to be a *****, you want to be TOUGH, right? No. The last thing on your mind is "i dont wanna be a ***** about this".

Funny how the rate of people being attacked, assaulted, sexually assaulted, and raped is on the RISE, and in the same time, MMA people try to say their sport is fast-growing. So either these mma people are learning NOTHING about how to defend themselves in the real world, or they are taking their knowledge to the streets and beating people up for fun. MMA guys try to say fighting is in our nature.....umm, no its not. Ive been on this earth for a long time and ive NEVER got into a fight. Why do people enjoy mma so much? Because they enjoy violent entertainment. And a recent study that I saw on a fitness page said that most martial arts, are worthless on the streets. So if its worthless on the streets, why learn it? If you want to learn self defense, you take classes that are called "Self Defense Classes"...they're usually one day classes. They say more and more girls are taking mma, yet the rate of women being abused/assaulted and raped, is on the rise.

How exactly does kicking someone in the head, punching someone, kneeing them in the liver, choking them out, a SAFE thing, what is the POINT of it? How does that teach focus, balance, concentration, etc. Why is it that when a guy is knocked down and defenseless, the attacker STILL goes at him? Why is it that whenever I ask mma guys that question, they can never give me a straight answer.

Nobody watches UFC for any other reason besides, they wanna watch someone get the crap beat out of them. People who say otherwise, get a life, you're only lying to yourself, thats like a college kid saying "i wanna go to Amsterdam to see the beautiful scenery." NO, u wanna go to Amsterdam to do drugs and get laid.

Not to mention, almost every medical association alive, speaks AGAINST the sport. Almost every doctor, speaks AGAINST the sport. I wonder why. I have 6 doctors in my family, and not to mention the few doctors Ive had the past few years for my yearly physical. I asked them all what their opinion of it is, and all but one said the same thing; that its simply not safe for the body, the long term effects are horrible. The one who said "i love it". is my 44 year old cousin who gets off work and gets drunk and parties all night in adams morgan. Yes, his opinion sure means a lot to me.

If you're not smart enough to watch a fight and say, "damn, thats violent and cruel, why do people do that?" then you've got some issues. Its okay for 2 people to step in a ring and beat the crap out of each other, but its not okay for 2 kids in a hallway to fight? And 2 kids in a hallway are fighting for a REASON. Why did Fedor choke out Sylvia? What, did Sylvia steal his girlfriend? Plus, school fights arent as violent as MMA fights. In an MMA or boxing fight, you actually know where to strike your opponent so you knock them out.

People say martial arts is just that....an art. If this doesnt get through to you, well you have issues: Im a personal trainer, I studied exercise science at a top college in Canada, along with being a licensed massage therapist so I know a lot about stuff like reflexology. Let me say, people these days are not capable of being disciplined. Mental toughness? For what? Whats being "mentally tough" gonna do for your life? Coordination? Go play football! Concentration? Go play the hand slap game. Balance? Stand on one foot for a minute. Strategies? Go play ANY sport. Studies have shown that even video games can improve people's mentality and coordination, focus, etc. (So can fish oil).

What exactly is the benefit of mma? Do MMA guys have better SAT scores than everyone else? Do MMA guys have higher IQs? Do MMA guys live longer/healthier lives? (That, they dont). So tell me how this "discipline, mental toughness, coordination, balance"...is useful in your life? Please someone tell me, because whenever I ask, I dont get an answer...and actually a few times Ive been kicked out of mma gyms when I started asking. What, are they hiding something?

I mean seriously, whats so entertaining about watching 2 people beat each other up??? What are we, middle schoolers? In the world we live in, shouldnt we be teaching people NOT to fight? 7 years ago this country got attacked, yet 7 years later WE are still beating each other up. Even the President of a boxing league (WBC?) said MMA is crap and barbaric, and their viewers are all people who are bloodthirsty idiots.

Yes mma fans, the truth hurts.

Other countries practice combat sports very vigorously. it is important that the U S stay ahead of the game.

I will need more info

geesh I saw the topic and was interested til i saw it was a book!

yeah 3 cheers for originality genius.

I disagree. Free country should be free to do as you wish as long as both parties are in agreement to the rules.

You can see many cases of this, seat belt laws. I would always wear mine, but when the government says HAY its illegal to be unsafe. Well should we mandate use of condoms? Should we mandate use of filter masks so we are safe and don't spread disease.

Should we outlaw motocross because its dangerous? How about all races?

Should we really allow our government a say in these kinds of things at all?

At what point does mandating safety become prison?


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OP nearly every point you made was against a straw man of some trainer who tries to stick his head in the ground and say that its anything but A_S beating.

Ok so its A_S beating . . . . I sill say the government should not be involved in mutually agreed contests of idiocy.

This is but one example of how ignorant and uninformed your weak little argument is. Fighters train all day every day and that training includes SPARRING. If you dont know what that is you should go look it up.

And aside from that, Bushido there raises a fantastic point that you and no one else have any right to prevent others from competing in a regulated competitive sport.



Well said.

And again, I'm sorry your 3 free classes at Kim's Karate in the mall didnt work out for you but that doesnt validate any of your straw-man bullsh!t.

more mommy daddy govt

and is it going to be world wide now

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First off cardio kickboxing ......is not kickboxing. You my friend are the diet coke of ty bo. No way do you have any knowledge of any form of true martial art by teaching that what so ever. Mater fact pls call your self an aerobic instructor leave the kickboxing out of your title. Now as far as martial arts/mma not being a sport. You truly understand every era of history has some sort of 1 on 1 fighting sport. It's in our blood and human nature. Secondly is this what is the benefit to praticing a true martial art....well if hadn't as a kid i probably be in jail today. I was a dumb kid who did dumb things getting into hap kid do straightened me right out. Then it brought me into other arts. I have beaten the hell out of people in pratice and vice versa. When it is all over you thank your opponent for it. Also one very point you made which is truly mute is this......how many deaths have been caused by MMA? ......none that i have heard of. How many people crippled by football, died in hockey?, even better how many athletes in sports in general?

you got your azz kicked the first day huh????

Careful Wolf...he's got a black belt in Tai-Bo

And I really love his lame causality arguments. If you follow his brand of "logic" rape and assault are on the rise because MMA is on the rise.




Im thinking the OP has a red belt in making sh!t up.

Rape and sexual assaults have DECREASED nationally by 60% since 1993 genius. Which is also when UFC first started. You know those things called FACTS? You should try looking into them sometime.

http://www.rainn.org/get-information/statistics/frequency-of-sexual-assault

This part is cute too:


Wow so you're saying that YOUR personal experience trumps all of HUMAN HISTORY?
And NOONE says its not fighting, of course its fighting.

Go stick to your tai-bo and leave the hard stuff like "thinking" and "logic" to the big boys. We wouldnt want you to hurt those delicate sensibilities.

edit: and by the way...giving handjobs to your Karate instructor when you were 12 doesnt make you a "massage therapist" anymore than Cardio-kickboxing gives you the right to run your mouth about martial arts.

Well put

You call this incredibly narrow point view TRUTH? Do you own a different dictionary than the rest of us, because most of this is completely ridiculous.

Yes, fighting (assault as you referred to it) is illegal, but so is driving your car over the speed limit. Should we tell NASCAR drivers to keep it under 65mph or face the wrath of your idiotic logic?

To associate attacks/ rape with this sport is BLATANTLY IGNORANT as well as completely INSULTING to anyone who practices any form of martial arts. I would love to see you spout off these ideas to any fighter in person instead of hiding behind your computer.

I have studied for many years.....
what do you do again???
oh yeah.......massage!!!
and tri to ty mie boot !!!

LMAO

wow, another one of these topics, and yes it was a book lol. dude maby 5% of what you said were facts and the rest was personal opinion, once again this guy is probly an animal rights person or a born again hippie come on now man, you will never win in this subject so move along