I've read through this this thread a couple of times now and I can't find a single reference to race except from you.

The original post is complete fabrication and easily refutable. I said that earlier and a link that shows it was posted before your post. And yet you come on to repeat more of the same. You should be ashamed. Disliking the man for his policies and his politics is fair. Spewing lies that even you know are false is shameful and hateful.

Just pull out the white flag...................grasping for straws..............ever heard the word DEFEAT.............YOU ARE DEFEATED...............HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

"This is our moment. This is our time - to put our people back to work and open doors of opportunity for our kids; to restore prosperity and promote the cause of peace; to reclaim the American Dream and reaffirm that fundamental truth - that out of many, we are one; that while we breathe, we hope, and where we are met with cynicism, and doubt, and those who tell us that we cant, we will respond with that timeless creed that sums up the spirit of a people:

Yes We Can."

Your President-Elect, Barack Hussein Obama

See, I get the satire part of it. But to some, that would construe hate. Just saying my friend. I guess it is all in perspective eh?

Well i stand by my statement. i cant argue peoples feelings. i can only argue facts (something that is lacking in this forum).

If we are gonna talk about it; lets!
I dont hate McCain. I beleive he is a great man with exceptional sense of honor. That said he lost because his honor in the last 7 years has been bound to a sinking ship that is the 43rd President. He would have helped himself by airing out all the mistakes of the President and how he, McCain, is a real conservative and not Bush.

McCain's Honor would not let him bash the leader of his own party and to that i give him credit, but it hurt him beyond measure.

McCain's other mis-step is Sarah Palin... dead weight. In July polls showed that 13% of the country thought the VP pick mattered. As of last week that number jumped to 30% and something like 60% were saying Palin didnt have what it takes.

Lastly when McCain said "the fundamentals of the economy are strong" and then days later the bottom dropped out of Wall st.... well


game.

set.

match.

No. No. I wasn't saying that I thought it was racist. Just saying that some might view it that way. But, since you talked about McCain, let me add to what you said.

McCain is a honorable man, but he really did get too negative with his campaign. I know he has a sense about him that rubs some the wrong way, but if you look at his track record in the Senate, the man has done what I would say is a good job. I still believe his negativity hurt him, while Obama presented himself as this "beacon of hope", and reached out.

The major problem for McCain wasn't Palin. But I will get to her in a minute. His major problem was Obama, and the fact that you could just sense that McCain knew he was bound to lose. Yeah, I voted for McCain, but when I did I honestly felt that Obama would win, and he did. Obama had everything going for him. He got a ton of funds, to which he used wisely. He sent troops out to homes, he got young volunteers texting all over the country. The man used technology, reached out to young voters, new voters, and people who didn't believe in voting. Obama got them to the polls. If you look at the numbers, state by state, county by county, it is amazing how Obama was able to win in most "traditionally" red areas. Hell, he won Virginia, and he was the first Democrat in 44 years to do that. This was Obama's time. Hillary found that out in the primaries, and John found that out in the election.

Now to Palin. She isn't as bad as she has been made out to be. Her major downfall is that she was thrust into the spotlight and she didn't know how to handle it. Trust me when I say this...you haven't seen the last of her. The GOP will work on her and get her ready. Not to run in 2012, but she will be a strong Republican voice in the Senate. Down the road, Sarah will run for President. It's what she does up to that time in how popular she becomes. Now, as to her role in this election? Well, you can't blame McCain for choosing her. It made sense to do so. But I don't fault her for losing this election for John. He hurt himself more than she did. Actually, his campaign manager really screwed him with some of the choices he made. But, as I said, you could just tell that no one in the McCain camp felt they would beat Obama. I honestly believe he didn't put up the strong fight he should have. Probably still would've lost, but I will always wonder how much tighter a race he could've made it.

i agree with everything you have stated. this election will go down in the history books in big bold letters not just because of the African American aspect but because of the phenomenal race that was had. From the primaries to the debates to Nov 4 2008, just epic. Every twist and every turn made yesterday all the more cathartic

Obama08.

Some of you right wingers are scary.

Often, I can't help but wonder how the world would be different today had McCain been the nominee in 2000. As an independent, I felt I could have voted for him over Al Gore back then. He seemed moderate enough despite his veneer of conservatism.

Ironically, as a victim of dirty tricks and intensely negative campaigning, it was particularly disappointing to see him allow his campaign to veer the same way in 2008. I think his advisers did him a disservice by micromanaging him and going so negative. But, he was making so many gaffs that I guess they felt like they had to insulate him from the press. Too, he had the almost impossible task of differentiating his policies from the failed ones of GWB, especially on Iraq.

That, and my general disturst of the neocon-influenced Republican brand made it impossible for me to consider him this time around.


-Kerry O.