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Edited by
quiet_2008
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haha I think they are both elitist
most of the people in this country are pretty middle of the road maderate. a little liberal here and a little conservative there. But these two represent the elite of both sides. I wonder how many houses FDR or Kennedy had? |
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hahahaha surrrrrrrrrrrrrrre you are it's addicting just one more post  i swear
its only news and current affairs of a non political nature from me from now on.... well ok, unless sarah palin says or does something ridiculous hilarious.. at which point i'll just fall to the floor laughing but not comment  
And the time to moon.
indeed
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I am no fan of Pelosi either.
The lack of balance a big dem win could bring is worrisome to me as well. Time will tell |
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Edited by
Winx
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Sat 10/25/08 12:27 PM
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haha I think they are both elitist most of the people in this country are pretty middle of the road maderate. a little liberal here and a little conservative there. But these two represent the elite of both sides. I wonder how many houses FDR or Kennedy had? I don't think so with Obama. His childhood is not like that. His dad died and he was an alcoholic. Bi-racial. Moving around a lot. Mom on food stamps. Mom died. Went to college. College is not easy. Became a lawyer. Worked in community service. To me, that is not an elitist. |
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hahahaha surrrrrrrrrrrrrrre you are it's addicting just one more post i swear
its only news and current affairs of a non political nature from me from now on.... well ok, unless sarah palin says or does something ridiculous hilarious.. at which point i'll just fall to the floor laughing but not comment
And the time to moon.
indeed
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...i dont think he's on the level of having an american idol style popularity though... it's not the only attribute he possesses, the character he exhibits by refusing to lower himself to personal attacks during debates, ... my point is not that you should vote for him soley because he possesses the skill of being able to inspire masses of people to be the best they can be... I disagree, Jasmine. I think Obama is right up there with Kelly Clarkson...unfortunately.
I further disagree - Obama has funded some grossly offensive attacks on McCain, and still continues to do so via his TV ads and in his public speeches at various times throughout his campaign. I again further disagree - I will not, and never have, voted for the one who "inspires" me to be best I can be. That's my own job to tend to...not a politician's. I personally vote for the strongest candidate who can effectively and efficiently lead our country as a whole based on their experience and positions on the issues at hand...regardless of how many homes they own. Did I happen to mention...I will be voting for Obama? 
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Edited by
quiet_2008
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Sat 10/25/08 12:33 PM
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haha I think they are both elitist most of the people in this country are pretty middle of the road maderate. a little liberal here and a little conservative there. But these two represent the elite of both sides. I wonder how many houses FDR or Kennedy had? I don't think so with Obama. His childhood is not like that. His dad died and he was an alcoholic. Bi-racial. Moving around a lot. Mom on food stamps. Mom died. Went to college. College is not easy. Became a lawyer. Worked in community service. To me, that is not an elitist. but he still seems to be of that liberal class who thinks he is superior to most of the middle American "fly over" country. The comments about "clinging to guns and religion" or telling that guy that he wanted to redistribute our wealth. It worries me when people think they know better how I should live my life and try to force me |
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haha I think they are both elitist most of the people in this country are pretty middle of the road maderate. a little liberal here and a little conservative there. But these two represent the elite of both sides. I wonder how many houses FDR or Kennedy had? I don't think so with Obama. His childhood is not like that. His dad died and he was an alcoholic. Bi-racial. Moving around a lot. Mom on food stamps. Mom died. Went to college. College is not easy. Became a lawyer. Worked in community service. To me, that is not an elitist. but he still seems to be of that liberal class who thinks he is superior to most of the middle American "fly over" country. The comments about "clinging to guns and religion" or telling that guy that he wanted to redistribute our wealth. It worries me when people think they know better how I should live my life and try to force me Yep, must agree, Quiet...those comments concerned me too. Still do! 
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Edited by
JasmineInglewood
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Sat 10/25/08 12:52 PM
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...i dont think he's on the level of having an american idol style popularity though... it's not the only attribute he possesses, the character he exhibits by refusing to lower himself to personal attacks during debates, ... my point is not that you should vote for him soley because he possesses the skill of being able to inspire masses of people to be the best they can be... I disagree, Jasmine. I think Obama is right up there with Kelly Clarkson...unfortunately.
I further disagree - Obama has funded some grossly offensive attacks on McCain, and still continues to do so via his TV ads and in his public speeches at various times throughout his campaign. I again further disagree - I will not, and never have, voted for the one who "inspires" me to be best I can be. That's my own job to tend to...not a politician's. I personally vote for the strongest candidate who can effectively and efficiently lead our country as a whole based on their experience and positions on the issues at hand...regardless of how many homes they own. Did I happen to mention...I will be voting for Obama?
oh dear... i'm sorry i just gotta do it...
ok this HERE will be my last post on politics
breathless when you said its your job to inspire the best out of yourself thats true... but what about on a societal level? leadership is about motivation, its about getting people to do what you want them to do, to put it bluntly... charting out a course and encouraging people to follow. if that type of leadership wasnt important then there would be no need for managers within organisations because all employees should be able to do their work without direction or influence. America, after the disillusionment and failure of the last eight years needs a leader that people arent jaded by, who can as you said, be the strongest candidate to efficiently run the country, but he cant do that singlehandedly nor should we expect him to. we should be expecting that he will rally a team of persons who will work toward a common goal within government as well as rally the wider americam public toward a stated national objective as well. being able to lead is not a trivial quality that people shouldnt consider when voting. Who really respects McCain and his decisions he's been making throughout this campaign anymore than they respected Bush and his decisions throughout his presidency?? |
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Edited by
Winx
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Sat 10/25/08 02:05 PM
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You will do it again.
I know a lot of people that lost respect for McCain after he picked Palin. I know a few Repubs. that won't vote for him now. They don't like the decisions he's making and how he's handling his campaign among other things. |
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they are both horrible choices for many different reasons. so don't try and kid yourself. But it is funny to see people argue which is more horrible than the other. I just love how neither side is talking about real issues in this whole campaign. at least its heartening to read that your generation isnt being fooled.... |
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I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution Smile and grin at the change all around me Pick up my guitar and play Just like yesterday Then I'll get on my knees and pray We don't get fooled again!! |
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hope I die before I get old...
(insert rocker smiley here) |
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Edited by
Winx
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Sat 10/25/08 02:16 PM
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Hmmm...a smiley playing an air guitar might be nice.
This is my generation!!! Rock air guitar smiley here. |
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haha I think they are both elitist most of the people in this country are pretty middle of the road maderate. a little liberal here and a little conservative there. But these two represent the elite of both sides. I wonder how many houses FDR or Kennedy had? I don't think so with Obama. His childhood is not like that. His dad died and he was an alcoholic. Bi-racial. Moving around a lot. Mom on food stamps. Mom died. Went to college. College is not easy. Became a lawyer. Worked in community service. To me, that is not an elitist. ummmmm....Harvard...University of Chicago...combined income of over a million dollars just two short years ago...***clearing my throat*** |
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Edited by
Winx
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Sat 10/25/08 02:17 PM
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haha I think they are both elitist most of the people in this country are pretty middle of the road maderate. a little liberal here and a little conservative there. But these two represent the elite of both sides. I wonder how many houses FDR or Kennedy had? I don't think so with Obama. His childhood is not like that. His dad died and he was an alcoholic. Bi-racial. Moving around a lot. Mom on food stamps. Mom died. Went to college. College is not easy. Became a lawyer. Worked in community service. To me, that is not an elitist. ummmmm....Harvard...University of Chicago...combined income of over a million dollars just two short years ago...***clearing my throat*** Two lawyers in the family. |
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haha I think they are both elitist most of the people in this country are pretty middle of the road maderate. a little liberal here and a little conservative there. But these two represent the elite of both sides. I wonder how many houses FDR or Kennedy had? I don't think so with Obama. His childhood is not like that. His dad died and he was an alcoholic. Bi-racial. Moving around a lot. Mom on food stamps. Mom died. Went to college. College is not easy. Became a lawyer. Worked in community service. To me, that is not an elitist. ummmmm....Harvard...University of Chicago...combined income of over a million dollars just two short years ago...***clearing my throat*** Two lawyers in the family. I think they worked for the law firm of...Dewey, Cheatum and Howe...lol |
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haha I think they are both elitist most of the people in this country are pretty middle of the road maderate. a little liberal here and a little conservative there. But these two represent the elite of both sides. I wonder how many houses FDR or Kennedy had? I don't think so with Obama. His childhood is not like that. His dad died and he was an alcoholic. Bi-racial. Moving around a lot. Mom on food stamps. Mom died. Went to college. College is not easy. Became a lawyer. Worked in community service. To me, that is not an elitist. ummmmm....Harvard...University of Chicago...combined income of over a million dollars just two short years ago...***clearing my throat*** Two lawyers in the family. I think they worked for the law firm of...Dewey, Cheatum and Howe...lol
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Since when do well educated and elitist mean the same thing?
Oh, wait I know. That happened when people agreed to dumb down and listen to someone like Palin who is afraid of "fancy words" |
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I'm voting for Obama because he is handsome.
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