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Oh god, burning would be the worst. And then if you didnt die right away. I think there is probably no pain to rival third degree burns. Ive just had a second on my arm and it was unbearable.
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Oh god, burning would be the worst. And then if you didnt die right away. I think there is probably no pain to rival third degree burns. Ive just had a second on my arm and it was unbearable. There are so many horrible ways to die, but fire is right up there with the worst. |
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Oh god, burning would be the worst. And then if you didnt die right away. I think there is probably no pain to rival third degree burns. Ive just had a second on my arm and it was unbearable. There are so many horrible ways to die, but fire is right up there with the worst. If there were for certain past lives and you died in a fire, that would be traumatic enough that you would probably have a fear of fire in the next life. Usually when people are trapped inside burning buildings, they die of smoke inhalation before the flames actually consume them which is kind of merciful. But if you were in an explosion or caught fire, who knows how long it would take. |
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If there were for certain past lives and you died in a fire, that would be traumatic enough that you would probably have a fear of fire in the next life. Usually when people are trapped inside burning buildings, they die of smoke inhalation before the flames actually consume them which is kind of merciful. But if you were in an explosion or caught fire, who knows how long it would take. I think any kind of very traumatic event or extremely horrific death would follow you into future lives. The only phobia I have is a mild clautrophobia that used to be worse when I was younger. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Sat 11/22/08 03:11 PM
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I just heard some poop about the people who died in the fire. I heard that they were seen trying to get out of a window but before they could open the window, the floor beneath them collapsed.
So I went back over the photographs that were too dark to see anything and I lightened them up with photoshop and I found two pictures where I could see in the background (before the building went up in a firestorm of flames) and there are four firemen, one of them is on a ladder at a window. Now I am wondering if that is where they were trying to get the people out. (Note the propane tank they have a ladder resting on.) |
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Oh no thats awful. I remember during 9-11 people were jumping out of that building to get out.
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Oh no thats awful. I remember during 9-11 people were jumping out of that building to get out. That was horrific. JB, how are you doing with all of this? It's pretty traumatic to watch something like that. |
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I often think about the witch burnings. They must have been horrible. So many innocent loving women were tied to a stake and burnt to death. It's unthinkable.
And to think that these were Christians who were doing this just makes my blood boil. Or I guess what I should say is that it makes my blood boil to think my parents (or anyone else living today) would even want to have anything at all to do with such a hateful horrific religion. I often wonder too how the burnings were done. I mean, if the witch were tied to a pole and then buried in a hole pile of very dry limbs and then the limbs were set on fire, it would become a bon fire quite quickly and get it over with relatively quickly. But a lot of morons who were burning witches probably tied them to a stake, and then started to slowly build a fire at their feet. They could do serious burn damage to the feet and legs before finally building a fire large enough to actually kill the victim. The witch burnings were totally cruel and about as inhumane as I can possibly imagine. To think that people actually did this in the name of God and Jesus Christ is truly distrubing. And it was all because of stupity and ignorance. The witches they were burning were more than likely a hundredfold more loving individuals than the bastards who were burning them. If there was ever a valid reason to be angry with people and religion the witch burnings is certainly one them. Of course, historically the Pope ordered armies to murder Christians too (as in the case of the Cathers). So Christians have no problem murdering anyone who doesn't agree with their particular views. And to think that I was actually raised into that horrific belief system. How disgusting. |
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Christianity and Islam are religions that seem to easily lend themselves to extremism and violence.
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Yeah the prospect of being tied to a stake and having a bunch of kindling lit at your feet is just inconceivable. I think thats probably how it was done with Witches. They also threw cats on fires. Little kitties were burnt and killed as being "familiars" to Witches. Or they just thought the cats were Witches who could take that form.
It was lunacy. They killed men also. Just not as many but men who were harboring perceived Witches would also be condemned. They probably just assumed that if you were hiding Witches, then either you were practicing sorcery or you were also in league with Satan or the Witch had used her "sexual power" to seduce you into doing Satan's work. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Sat 11/22/08 04:22 PM
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Oh no thats awful. I remember during 9-11 people were jumping out of that building to get out. That was horrific. JB, how are you doing with all of this? It's pretty traumatic to watch something like that. I don't respond to traumatic events the way most people would expect. I become very removed and detached from them. At the time I was taking these pictures I had actually assumed that the people had all gotten out of there because I had seen them take the grandmother out, and there were other people around so I assumed everyone had gotten out. I have gotten three pages of pictures up on my site now, with four pictures on each page. They are getting a lot of traffic from locals. Our street is a constant stream of cars driving by looking at the remains of the place. I'm going to take some more pictures today. http://www.springfieldcolorado.com/fire-21.html |
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Do you think it is possible for a person to go many years without knowing they have a curse on them? I wanted to ask the experts. you all.
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Do you think it is possible for a person to go many years without knowing they have a curse on them? I wanted to ask the experts. you all. Krimsa reaches out and gently strokes you cheek and whispers the word, "thinner." Just kidding. I dont really believe in curses but that is not to say that others do not as they are found in several cultures through out the world. The Gypsy curse being the one that tends to receive the most notoriety. Even modern day Italians (Sicilians) will put some degree of stock in them. Do you think you are cursed? |
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Do you think it is possible for a person to go many years without knowing they have a curse on them? I wanted to ask the experts. you all. I don't know a lot about curses, but for them to work, in my estimation you have to a) know about it b) believe in them |
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Do you think it is possible for a person to go many years without knowing they have a curse on them? I wanted to ask the experts. you all. Krimsa reaches out and gently strokes you cheek and whispers the word, "thinner." Just kidding. I dont really believe in curses but that is not to say that others do not as they are found in several cultures through out the world. The Gypsy curse being the one that tends to receive the most notoriety. Even modern day Italians (Sicilians) will put some degree of stock in them. Do you think you are cursed? A friend of mine said he thought I probably was or something, but it made me mad. I don't like ideas like that, it doesn't feel right, I think that kind of believe can only create anamosity in people and make them mean or weird to the point of no return. that is not something I put my faith in. Sorry, I got a God thing, see, I sorta believe there is a God and he loves me, and when I told him this, he said, lets not do the God thing right now ok, see, I'm not putting him down for his beliefs, I'm just saying, he has a differant point of view on stuff like that, he is Wiccan, but that was never really my thing, when you grow up in a home with your mother reading tarot and your pops saying a rosary in the other room, you really question stuff for the longest time. It will definatly play on your conscience and well being. that is for sure. |
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Right. If you truly believe that a curse hangs over your head or there is a family curse of some designation, then chances are you will begin to see that happening around you or any bad occurrence in your life you will begin to attribute to the curse and therefore you will be at least partly to blame for the proliferation of caustic events in your life because you believe the curse is causing them to befall you.
In that sense, it can become a vicious cycle. If someone feels they are cursed then something needs to be done to "lift the curse" so that way they will recognize that its power has left their life and they can begin to create better circumstances and experiences. Thats just my opinion.so its very real in that sense. The problem is that many of the traditional "remedies" for curses can be horrible. They never seem to be easy. Sometimes they involve blood sacrifice. Just be careful of what you are getting involved with here. |
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Right. If you truly believe that a curse hangs over your head or there is a family curse of some designation, then chances are you will begin to see that happening around you or any bad occurrence in your life you will begin to attribute to the curse and therefore you will be at least partly to blame for the proliferation of caustic events in your life because you believe the curse is causing them to befall you. In that sense, it can become a vicious cycle. If someone feels they are cursed then something needs to be done to "lift the curse" so that way they will recognize that its power has left their life and they can begin to create better circumstances and experiences. Thats just my opinion.so its very real in that sense. The problem is that many of the traditional "remedies" for curses can be horrible. They never seem to be easy. Sometimes they involve blood sacrifice. Just be careful of what you are getting involved with here. LOL well to be quite honest with you, there is a family curse on us, I do my best not to put much effort into worrying about it, but as crappy as my life has gone, it certainly made me wonder, and than get mad, cause I won't stand for that kind of foolish thinking. Put it this way, I may not like myself so much at times, but I still have hope for our people, our world, and I love children, I have alot of love to give, I will never allow such a foolish idea or even in some small sense it were true, to take me away from giving my love to those who truly need it and deserve it. maybe I never got alot of love growing up or the right attention to keep me straight and on the right path, but I found my way back. And now I know, who I am and who I have become. maybe there is someone who really hates me, or maybe more even, who knows, and I don't care, that is not the important thing. I learned a long time ago, that there are somethings worth hanging onto, some things that no one can have, and that comes only from experience. hugs and smiles, thank you for your comments. |
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Do you think it is possible for a person to go many years without knowing they have a curse on them? I wanted to ask the experts. you all. Krimsa reaches out and gently strokes you cheek and whispers the word, "thinner." Just kidding. I dont really believe in curses but that is not to say that others do not as they are found in several cultures through out the world. The Gypsy curse being the one that tends to receive the most notoriety. Even modern day Italians (Sicilians) will put some degree of stock in them. Do you think you are cursed? A friend of mine said he thought I probably was or something, but it made me mad. I don't like ideas like that, it doesn't feel right, I think that kind of believe can only create anamosity in people and make them mean or weird to the point of no return. that is not something I put my faith in. Sorry, I got a God thing, see, I sorta believe there is a God and he loves me, and when I told him this, he said, lets not do the God thing right now ok, see, I'm not putting him down for his beliefs, I'm just saying, he has a differant point of view on stuff like that, he is Wiccan, but that was never really my thing, when you grow up in a home with your mother reading tarot and your pops saying a rosary in the other room, you really question stuff for the longest time. It will definatly play on your conscience and well being. that is for sure. Why does he think he knows you are cursed? Woudnt you know? I think curses generally need to be made face to face. I could be wrong on that but from what I understand of them, a word needs to be said to you face to face or a touch. Thats with Gypsy curses anyway. I think thats part of how they work is because people see them happen and are afraid and then they are thinking "Im cursed" . I could be wrong though. |
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Do you think it is possible for a person to go many years without knowing they have a curse on them? I wanted to ask the experts. you all. Krimsa reaches out and gently strokes you cheek and whispers the word, "thinner." Just kidding. I dont really believe in curses but that is not to say that others do not as they are found in several cultures through out the world. The Gypsy curse being the one that tends to receive the most notoriety. Even modern day Italians (Sicilians) will put some degree of stock in them. Do you think you are cursed? A friend of mine said he thought I probably was or something, but it made me mad. I don't like ideas like that, it doesn't feel right, I think that kind of believe can only create anamosity in people and make them mean or weird to the point of no return. that is not something I put my faith in. Sorry, I got a God thing, see, I sorta believe there is a God and he loves me, and when I told him this, he said, lets not do the God thing right now ok, see, I'm not putting him down for his beliefs, I'm just saying, he has a differant point of view on stuff like that, he is Wiccan, but that was never really my thing, when you grow up in a home with your mother reading tarot and your pops saying a rosary in the other room, you really question stuff for the longest time. It will definatly play on your conscience and well being. that is for sure. Why does he think he knows you are cursed? Woudnt you know? I think curses generally need to be made face to face. I could be wrong on that but from what I understand of them, a word needs to be said to you face to face or a touch. Thats with Gypsy curses anyway. I think thats part of how they work is because people see them happen and are afraid and then they are thinking "Im cursed" . I could be wrong though. he just said it out of the blue, I didn't even expect him to say it. I probably would have remembered, but I don't to be honest with you. It could have happened at any point in my youth to be honest with you, my mother was very strange, she had many issues, someone once said that someone might have been mad at my mom so they cursed me as a child or something, I was like, oooo kkk, uhuh |
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Do you think it is possible for a person to go many years without knowing they have a curse on them? I wanted to ask the experts. you all. Krimsa reaches out and gently strokes you cheek and whispers the word, "thinner." Just kidding. I dont really believe in curses but that is not to say that others do not as they are found in several cultures through out the world. The Gypsy curse being the one that tends to receive the most notoriety. Even modern day Italians (Sicilians) will put some degree of stock in them. Do you think you are cursed? A friend of mine said he thought I probably was or something, but it made me mad. I don't like ideas like that, it doesn't feel right, I think that kind of believe can only create anamosity in people and make them mean or weird to the point of no return. that is not something I put my faith in. Sorry, I got a God thing, see, I sorta believe there is a God and he loves me, and when I told him this, he said, lets not do the God thing right now ok, see, I'm not putting him down for his beliefs, I'm just saying, he has a differant point of view on stuff like that, he is Wiccan, but that was never really my thing, when you grow up in a home with your mother reading tarot and your pops saying a rosary in the other room, you really question stuff for the longest time. It will definatly play on your conscience and well being. that is for sure. Why does he think he knows you are cursed? Woudnt you know? I think curses generally need to be made face to face. I could be wrong on that but from what I understand of them, a word needs to be said to you face to face or a touch. Thats with Gypsy curses anyway. I think thats part of how they work is because people see them happen and are afraid and then they are thinking "Im cursed" . I could be wrong though. he just said it out of the blue, I didn't even expect him to say it. I probably would have remembered, but I don't to be honest with you. It could have happened at any point in my youth to be honest with you, my mother was very strange, she had many issues, someone once said that someone might have been mad at my mom so they cursed me as a child or something, I was like, oooo kkk, uhuh And this one time, at band camp I stuck a bean up my nose, really, hehehe |
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