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Topic: Do you think by cutting
Winx's photo
Sat 10/18/08 03:34 PM



Why does everyone want the government to take more control over things? Government bureaucracy never does as good of a job as private industry, and it costs everyone more in the long run. Defense/military is one of the few things the government SHOULD be providing. But schools? Private schools have been providing better education all along - I'd rather see private industry take over public schools.



Well, when the government took deregulation off of the banks, how did that turn out?




Please explain! I like to learn.


It turned out to be the disaster that we have going on now.

Redshirt's photo
Sat 10/18/08 04:36 PM
The largest portion of the defense budget is for the retirement of career military personal. Which means...if you cut 25% it is not going to be an even reduction.

Would that help education...speaking as an educator, it is highly unlikely. Don't even want to peel that onion. grumble Governments Grants and programs are a mess of red tape and regulations.

Winx's photo
Sat 10/18/08 05:27 PM

I'm just having fun...I don't have a mean bone in my body...or...in my head !...lol


Hmpf.

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Sat 10/18/08 06:12 PM




Why does everyone want the government to take more control over things? Government bureaucracy never does as good of a job as private industry, and it costs everyone more in the long run. Defense/military is one of the few things the government SHOULD be providing. But schools? Private schools have been providing better education all along - I'd rather see private industry take over public schools.



Well, when the government took deregulation off of the banks, how did that turn out?




Please explain! I like to learn.


It turned out to be the disaster that we have going on now.


Ok, the more i read up on this stuff the morei find that this didn't "start" anytime during our lifetimes. You can trace economic instability from 1913 on. (Well, more dramatic form of it)

We have implimented an unstable system of money and borrowing. Banks create money they don't have (not talking about printing yet...). We work off a system that has a 9 to 1 ratio, meaning if a bank has $100, it can lend out $900 without having to back anything up. I could get into details, but i want to make this short. Anyway our system is debt based, meaning that if people don't have debt, there is no money being created out of thin air and circulated. This is what caused the great depression. The problem is, if we don't keep borrowing an increasing amount of money every day (this is the total worldwide) than our system will crash. We are dealing exponents here. This means we need to find a more stable system of sound money before the entire planet goes bankrupt....

Ok got side tracked a bit...:wink:

Well, this system of borrowing and spending beyond our means creates bubbles from time to time. These bubbles burst, leaving bankrupt corporations...

Now, you have the modern day problem, banks giving loans recklessly to people that can barely afford them. The people are partly to blame, and the economy is partly to blame, and the banks are partly to blame.

1. If the people read the fine print, and planned accordingly there wouldn't be a problem if the economy was stable.

2. If the banks didn't get cocky and think they could make a killing off joe shmoe, and they thought about the economy, there wouldn't be a problem.

3. There would be less of a problem in both scenarios if our economy was stable.


What is making our economy unstable? The federal Reserve, which is a privately owned centralized bank. And you also have government over spending...

In 1971 congress voted to no longer back our money with gold right? Well this was disasterous as whenever the government comes up short on their budget they just have the reserve print more money.

What does that more for us? That means the college fund we were saving for our children is now worth (x)% less than it was before.

Apply this to world economics and you have the CAUSE of our high gas prices, and medical bills no one can afford. This kinda puts a damper on Joe Shmoe who thought he could afford a 150,000 dollar loan when gas was $1.20 a gallon. His cost of living went up so he cant afford his loan anymore. He loses. And the company loses money since he isn't making payments anymore.

Could the problem have been solved via regulation? Perhaps, to some extent. I have never been against a system of checks and balances on wall street. But, we CANNOT control the market. We shouldn't even try to CONTROL the market. These attempts at controllingthe market are part of the cause to the problem.

The solution would be to let the banks eat this mess. Survival of the fittest. Corporations would go under when they liquify their assets, and yes, many would lose jobs. But some other corporations, you know that ones not responsible for this mess, would take over. They would become bigger, and more positions would reopen. Free Market is not to blame. Free market is more powerful than any and all governments.

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Sat 10/18/08 06:23 PM

Why does everyone want the government to take more control over things? Government bureaucracy never does as good of a job as private industry, and it costs everyone more in the long run. Defense/military is one of the few things the government SHOULD be providing. But schools? Private schools have been providing better education all along - I'd rather see private industry take over public schools.




It's in the governments best interest to spend money providing a top rate educational system, the smarter they are coming out of school, the smarter they are going into the army!

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Sat 10/18/08 07:38 PM
..i'm also for the privatization of schools...it has been my experience that private schools provide a better learning experience...this is not to say that the educators are any better..but that the students are far more interested in learning...finding evidence to substantiate this is probably impossible..so again, this is my opinion..qualitative, not quantitative..

roco

Winx's photo
Sat 10/18/08 07:47 PM

..i'm also for the privatization of schools...it has been my experience that private schools provide a better learning experience...this is not to say that the educators are any better..but that the students are far more interested in learning...finding evidence to substantiate this is probably impossible..so again, this is my opinion..qualitative, not quantitative..

roco


The schools in my city have had their accreditation taken away from them. My child goes to a private school because of that.

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Sat 10/18/08 10:01 PM
What would be the ultimate solution to ensure every school in the nation has the material, technology and information available to ensure a good education for the children? If I may add what would it take to have more enthusiastic teachers to really ensure every child has a good education throughout this nation?

Winx's photo
Sat 10/18/08 10:09 PM

What would be the ultimate solution to ensure every school in the nation has the material, technology and information available to ensure a good education for the children? If I may add what would it take to have more enthusiastic teachers to really ensure every child has a good education throughout this nation?


I feel that a lot starts at home. It depends on how high a priority that parent gives to education. The kids see that.
Parents need to start reading to children at a young age. Go on class field trips. Help with homework in the evening. The child needs to see that school and the child are important to the parents.

Making more enthusiastic teachers? Maybe teachers need to be asked that. I would think, though, that smaller classes and higher salaries would be beneficial.

Materials and technology take money.

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Sat 10/18/08 10:30 PM
Privatizing schools will only make the divide larger.

Each student and each school should receive the same dollar amount per pupil. It is obscene that some schools provide laptops to their kids while others struggle to provide paper.

Eliminate the department of education.

Curriculum guides could easily be established by surveying major universities at a small cost.

Oh and insist idiot parents get involved. How can we complain when children cannot read, write, do calculations, read a map, cook, change a tire or well to put it crudely wipe their own butts when we abandon our responsibilities as parents?

Turn off the tv and read to your children.

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