give him time hell grow. he can never be of any worth if he keeps
felling worthless.i read what a lot of you said then i read your
Profile.YALL SAY YALL GOD FEARING BUT SO QUICK TO JUDGE. come on man
just because someone was born in the slums & look like it dont mean that
they are trash. "its not yall job" you dont want to help the young man
up & you still ***** about the crime rate & you ***** about having to
live in a world like this and when you get a small change to do
something and you cry like its a bad thing.please dont say anything to
this kid again hes got to many people telling him he anit **** as it is.

>>SAY YALL GOD FEARING <<
I'm non-religion

>>please dont say anything to this kid again<<
All it would take for that to happen is to fess up and move on.

Every person has to take the step themselves and nobody can do that for
them.
Teach them to fish don't cook it for them.

Yeah, give him time, a couple more years and a feww more stray bullets
from drive bys, maybe a few more innocent bystanders catching those
bullets, a few more old women drug down the road by his gangs purse
snatchings, a few more dead tourist, crack babies, etc.
Buttons, come on, If you know him smack some sense into him. I like the
idea of taking him behind the woodshed better.

I don't think anyof you read or understood my posting on this one back
on page two before Buttons came to bat for the kid. He is just a kid.
While his actions may effect others around him in a negative fashion. It
does not mean that he is a loser at all. People choose to lead their
lives in different fashions but nobody has the implicet right to judge a
person other then God himself.

The reactions he got from posting here look to me like the JSH members
in general ganged up on him.

That is no better then being a member of a street gang in reality.

I think that many of the people in here should look into themselves to
make themselves better people before attacking others.

I also believe that many of the gangs out there have switched over from
selling drugs as a primary form of income to counterfiting money as the
punishments for that are far less then the mandatory for drugs.

The most dangerous criminals out there do not even carry guns the
practice their profession from a keyboard. Take a look at all the
identity theft going on and credit card frauds and you will see.


Anyhow, Bravo to buttons for taking up for the underdog here.

I am suprised this thread has not been removed already by Van or Mike
and people have not gotten warnings and services suspended on the forums
for their combative and nasty attitudes in the postings.

im always for the underdog but if you go back and read he threatned
seahawk sayin as he is crackin his knuckles you wont come here and say
that... thats what got everyone started.... i in no way judged him as i
have had a hard life to but dont expect ppl to feel srry for me i pulled
myself up with no help from family i was homeless for a while and went
thru alot so i think this thread has gotton way off course and it should
of ended a long time ago

gangs are for those who are too weak in mind to go it alone,
or too insecure in themselves to believe in themselves.
just because they might or might not have had a hard teen life,
does not excuse violence or theft,or drug dealing.

if this guy is so much all that...well Buttons,why don't you tell those
who have been shot by gangs,or raped by gangs how sweet and lovable he
really is?
I'm sure they will feel the same way that you do,
and just welcome the gangstas in their homes with open arms.

oh and while you are at it,
why don't you ask him what he did to get into the gang?
kill?
rape?
steal?
deal drugs?

or did he just happen to find himself with no other way to go?

and if he did a crime to get into the gang,
did he do any time for it?
or are you just defending him,
without knowing all of his story?

being in a gang is a choice that was made,
he was not born into it,and I see no reason to coddle or baby him,let
alone defend the gang mentality like some have in this thread.

is his gang doing anything GOOD for th comunity?
or just for themselves?
how is their health plans?
do they have workmans comp?
do they pay income taxes like the rest of us have to?

Gangs are a "COP OUT",
just an excuse to some people who just can't hack it in the real
world,and would rather steal or kill for a living.

and before you get all in my face about it,
I was in a gang,did my time for my mistakes,faught my way back out on my
own,and am alot better off than when I was in the gang in the first
place,because I can do it on my own,
I go to my jobs and sweat all day,and come home to a feeling that I did
something good today,and nobody got hurt because of me or my so-called
friends,who would just as soon cut your throat as to look at you.

no gangs are not the way to go now days,
they always have to watch out for the other gangs,
and look over their shoulders for the police,
or the next one who wants to rule that hood or corner,
then you have to worry about the pecking order within that gang,if you
are a man,you might get killed just for your shoes or coat,or because
you smoked up the last of the crack.

and a gang woman...that's a whole other story.

in no way do i promote gang activity, or gang related activitys.

what i do promote is faith, hope, caring, guidence as best as i can..or
to know how.

and slow , thank u for sharing.. for maybe this will give nsc some
HOPE...

I was in a gang,did my time for my mistakes,faught my way back out on my
own,and am alot better off than when I was in the gang in the first
place,because I can do it on my own,
I go to my jobs and sweat all day,and come home to a feeling that I did
something good today,and nobody got hurt because of me or my so-called
friends,who would just as soon cut your throat as to look at you.

no gangs are not the way to go now days,
they always have to watch out for the other gangs,
and look over their shoulders for the police,
or the next one who wants to rule that hood or corner,
then you have to worry about the pecking order within that gang,if you
are a man,you might get killed just for your shoes or coat,or because
you smoked up the last of the crack.

NO GANGS.

They are all fake.

that wasnt what i said i cut and paste what she said...
something to give nsc to look forward to ..

good for you buttons! kids are joining gangs today with the
misconnception that thaey are accepted and loved by their fellow gang
members. its a pretty sad situation. innocent children get caught in the
crossfire. these cities need to do more for their community and offer
more advantages for young people struggling to find themselves. most
people who join a gang come from a hard life and they feel acceppted.
and once they have been arrsested and hava record they cant get jobs.
its the federal gov and state gov that need to do more to stop this

I feel that if the parents would love and support and educate their
children,and show them that there is so much more to life than
gangs,killing,rape,stealing,and drugs,they won't turn to gangs for that
support.

instead of buying a motorcycle,why don't we challenge the minds
of our young gansta,and see if he/she can make it through 4 years of
college,or a votech,learn a trade that will make them productive in
todays social structures,and lend a helping hand,to those who need it?

if this can be solved within a family unit,
then state or federal governments don't need to be involved.
and the comunities of each troubled city should stand for their towns
and homes to prevent gangs from gaining the upper hands,
like I said earlier,gangs are just a cop-out for those who can't cope in
todays reality,or more to the point,
a cop-out for those who CHOOSE not to deal with todays stresses.

thatblackguy i live deep in BIBLE THUMPIN COUNTRY but that doesnt make
ME GOD FEARIN. I am sick of seeing our youth corrupted by gangs, the
violence, the level of DISRESPECT for others their property and HUMAN
LIVES. Like i said...would YOU like to help pay all the paramount
medical bills that continue to mount with my sisters youngin who was
shot in the head and now paralyzed??? Somehow I REALLY DOUBT IT. Black,
white, i dont care if yer a DAM RAINBOW. Gang violence is NOT tolerated
by many.

Buttons,
I'm a man,not a woman,
you copy/pasted my words and then call me a "SHE"

don't make me get my gang after you for that...lol.

sorry slow didnt know ya just said gang woman on the bottom....