Topic: JUDGE ORDERS OBAMA TO PRODUCE BIRTH CERTIFICATE
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Sat 10/04/08 02:04 PM


i was born in England to an American dad and an english mom.I had dual citizenship .I was adopted by Americans,brought here,readopted here(America doesn't recognize foreign adoptions or didn't at that time).I still had dual citizenship.I was officially naturalized when I was seven but just so I would have one citizenship.Anyway once born to an American citizen,you are a citizen.Wasn't McCain born in Panama?


You should be president! :)



I'd only do it for the male interns..woot!!

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Sat 10/04/08 02:08 PM
1- It's impossible to find credibility for this article because it is not credible to begin with.

2-You don't have to be born on American soil to run for president.

George Romney, who ran for the Republican party nomination in 1968, was born in Mexico to U.S. parents. Romney’s grandfather emigrated to Mexico in 1886 with his three wives and children after Utah outlawed polygamy. Romney's parents retained their U.S. citizenship and returned to the United States in 1912. Romney was 32 years old when he arrived in Michigan.

3- We aren't your secretaries- Look it up yourself

4-No one else cares or believes this bunk except you, so go have fun with it.

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Sat 10/04/08 02:09 PM
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Article. II.

Section. 1.

The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows:

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; A quorum for this purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse from them by Ballot the Vice President.

The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

In Case of the Removal of the President from Office, or of his Death, Resignation, or Inability to discharge the Powers and Duties of the said Office, the Same shall devolve on the Vice President, and the Congress may by Law provide for the Case of Removal, Death, Resignation or Inability, both of the President and Vice President, declaring what Officer shall then act as President, and such Officer shall act accordingly, until the Disability be removed, or a President shall be elected.

The President shall, at stated Times, receive for his Services, a Compensation, which shall neither be increased nor diminished during the Period for which he shall have been elected, and he shall not receive within that Period any other Emolument from the United States, or any of them.

Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

pretty clear, huh?

one must be born here, not in Kenya.

Only the founding father's generation could be born elsewhere.

Now get with the program.




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Sat 10/04/08 02:12 PM
Hey WouldLee, did you know that the word "GULLIBLE" is NOT in the dictionary???








( I will bet anyone $100 that he is looking it up ,right now!:banana: )

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Sat 10/04/08 02:13 PM
http://www.paed.uscourts.gov/index.htm

Here is the website for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania court. First, the named magistrate is not a magistrate, but a judge, there is a difference. Second, if you do a search, Obama is not listed anywhere in their website. Third, if you go over the list of recent decisions, there is no case in the last week listing Obama as either a Plaintiff or a Defendant. As I am at home, I do not have my Pacer password information however, in 99% of the court websites, you do not need Pacer to identify if a case is under their jurisdiction. Third, according http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html:

"Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

Anyone born inside the United States
Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.
Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born, for example."


Therefore, I can only conclude that this information is false.

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Sat 10/04/08 02:16 PM
Lawyer files court challenge to Obama's status as a "natural born citizen"-Truth!


Summary of the eRumor:
Philadelphia attorney and Hillary Clinton supporter, Philip Berg has filed a lawsuit stating that Barack Obama is not eligible to run for president on account of a fake birth certificate.

The Truth:
This story began circulating on August 22, 2008 and we found a confirmation on the morning of the 25th published in the Times Herald.

According to the Philadelphia Times Herald, attorney Philip Berg filed a temporary restraining order in federal court to bar Senator Obama from running for president, claiming the Democratic candidate was actually born in Africa.

Questions about Obama's birth began circulating during the primary election campaign.

First, there was a challenge as to whether his Hawaiian birth was before or after Hawaii became a state. The constitution specifies that to be eligible for the presidency, a candidate must be a "natural born citizen." That was when Obama posted his birth certificate on his campaign website, which showed that he was born after Hawaii became a state. It would not have mattered because his birth in a U.S. territory would have still been regarded as "natural born" as is John McCain's, who was born in Panama.
Click Here for details about that story.

After that, rumors started circulating that the birth certificate posted on Obama's website was not authentic. A blogger who claims to be a forensic computer expert posted findings claiming that the certificate posted on Obama's site was originally the birth certificate of another person. He listed his expert opinions as to why he thought the certificate was a fake, but it did not attract the attention of the media.

Philip Berg's lawsuit is the most significant action taken about the authenticity of Obama's birth.

If it can be proven that the birth certificate or any of the information that led to the birth certificate is fake and especially if Obama was born outside of the United States or any of its territories, his eligibility for the presidency will be gone.

Jerome Corsi, the best-selling author of the book The Obama Nation has said in TV interviews that he believes the birth certificate is phony.

Among the believers in Obama's birth certificate is the folks at FactCheck.org. They said they have a copy of the original and have posted high resolution pictures of it on their site. They refute claims that the certificate on Obama's web site does not have a raised seal, is not signed, has a "halo" around the letters, lacks a certificate number, and has any evidence of a date other than when the document was released.
On October 3, 2008, a Deputy Clerk for US District Court Judge R. Barclay Surrick, who is presiding over the case, told truthorfiction.com that no decision had been rendered at this time and, contrary to any reports, no order has been issued for Barack Hussein Obama to present his birth certificate.

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/l/lawyersues.htm

well, here is something that offers that the order may not be real after all.



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Sat 10/04/08 02:21 PM
Big deal- lawyers file junk every day. That's what they do.

Lawyers even DEFENDED O.J. Simpson.

I don't think I would confuse a lawyer filing a challenge to automatically mean it has merit.

Did you find gullible in the dictionary yet? flowerforyou

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Sat 10/04/08 02:30 PM
actually, the case is still alive and Obama is being served of motions by the plaintiff.

clearly, the case is not dead.

That much is verified.

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Sat 10/04/08 02:34 PM

actually, the case is still alive and Obama is being served of motions by the plaintiff.

clearly, the case is not dead.

That much is verified.


Good Job! Now you stay on the case while the rest of us enjoy our weekends! Be sure to keep us posted.


(dear God, I hope this keeps him busy)

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Sat 10/04/08 02:36 PM
Edited by cutelildevilsmom on Sat 10/04/08 02:46 PM
http://www.obamacrimes.com/

says no ruling as of oct 1st.


sorry steve i got curious.oops

http://themountainsage.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/obama-full-screenshot-do-not-delete.jpg

http://www.americasright.com/2008/08/obama-sued-in-philadelphia-federal.html

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Sat 10/04/08 02:38 PM


actually, the case is still alive and Obama is being served of motions by the plaintiff.

clearly, the case is not dead.

That much is verified.


Good Job! Now you stay on the case while the rest of us enjoy our weekends! Be sure to keep us posted.


(dear God, I hope this keeps him busy)




LOL

and you?

drinks KOOL AID isn't just for kids anymore.

Apparently, you find this amusing, huh?

bigsmile


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Sat 10/04/08 02:49 PM
Edited by cutelildevilsmom on Sat 10/04/08 02:57 PM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp

I found this interesting.


http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/berg.pdf

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Sat 10/04/08 02:52 PM
OMG, I cannot believe some of you people are pulling information from sites that (a) have no credibility whatsoever (i.e. Craigslist) or (b) are so clearly run by people with a bias against Obama.

For the record, I am not an Obama supporter but I am a supporter of truth and integrity. If you are going to go after the "truth" start at the source and use credible, non-biased information.

If this case had any credibility whatsoever, it would be plastered all over the mainstream media, both U.S. and world news. You would not be finding "facts" posted only in Craigslist and Obamacrimes.com


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Sat 10/04/08 02:55 PM
http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/13/



read the unsigned and undated order for yourself.

This is official.

But the signed order is not evidenced here, only the order as written.

Will it be served?




read the case.

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Sat 10/04/08 02:57 PM
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/21/obamas-birth-certificate-bamboozle-cont/

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Sat 10/04/08 03:01 PM

http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/13/



read the unsigned and undated order for yourself.

This is official.

But the signed order is not evidenced here, only the order as written.

Will it be served?




read the case.


I can whip you up an unsigned, undated order in 3 minutes.

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Sat 10/04/08 03:04 PM

OMG, I cannot believe some of you people are pulling information from sites that (a) have no credibility whatsoever (i.e. Craigslist) or (b) are so clearly run by people with a bias against Obama.

For the record, I am not an Obama supporter but I am a supporter of truth and integrity. If you are going to go after the "truth" start at the source and use credible, non-biased information.

If this case had any credibility whatsoever, it would be plastered all over the mainstream media, both U.S. and world news. You would not be finding "facts" posted only in Craigslist and Obamacrimes.com



dont kill me i'm just having fun lol.obama crimes is phil bergs site.pitchfork

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Sat 10/04/08 03:04 PM
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Forensics_specialist_Obama_s_Birth_Certificate_Forged

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Sat 10/04/08 03:08 PM
even Israelis are investigating the matter.


why?

http://www.stop-obama.org/?p=588

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Sat 10/04/08 03:10 PM


OMG, I cannot believe some of you people are pulling information from sites that (a) have no credibility whatsoever (i.e. Craigslist) or (b) are so clearly run by people with a bias against Obama.

For the record, I am not an Obama supporter but I am a supporter of truth and integrity. If you are going to go after the "truth" start at the source and use credible, non-biased information.

If this case had any credibility whatsoever, it would be plastered all over the mainstream media, both U.S. and world news. You would not be finding "facts" posted only in Craigslist and Obamacrimes.com



dont kill me i'm just having fun lol.obama crimes is phil bergs site.pitchfork


laugh laugh flowerforyou

Well, I'm off to make dinner, the classic American dish of southern fried chicken. I cannot vouch, however, for the citizenship of the chickens bigsmile