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Topic: WHY I DON"T BELIEVE IN SATAN
enderra's photo
Wed 10/01/08 01:10 PM
Yes, I said it!

This really addressed to Mr. Hot Tub, who is either trying to save me or damn me. He wrote the following to me.


"You lil lady have given satan exactly what he wants. i dont comprehend how a person could believe what you do. if you believe the enemy doesnt exist then he has full power to be all around you & do whatever he wants. because, hey u dont acknowledge he exists."

I do not believe satan exist. The belief in satan gives people an easy out. A La Flip Wilson's Josephine "The Devil made me do it" if you don't know who Flip Wilson was I can't help you. The point is. I do not believe that Satan is hoovering below or above the earth with minions of demons spread evil on us like butter on bread.

I believe rather that we are all responsible for our thoughts and actions. And should not be enabled by a god or devil that says if you believe in us will be forgiven for the evil you have done.

The people who do, that is you business, you don't need to get in my face and tell me that you are only slightly more enlightened than your brotheren that lead the Inquisition or those who would tie my heads and feet and throw me in a lake to see if I floated.


CleanBathroom's photo
Wed 10/01/08 01:13 PM
If Satan doesn't exist, how do we rationalize the existence of **** Cheney? mad

Hey Enderra ... flowerforyou

enderra's photo
Wed 10/01/08 01:15 PM

If Satan doesn't exist, how do we rationalize the existence of **** Cheney? mad

Hey Enderra ... flowerforyou
WOW, I Hadn't thought of that.noway Hey to youflowers

SkyHook5652's photo
Wed 10/01/08 01:19 PM
There is a clinical term for people who see evil all around them. :wink: :laughing:

feralcatlady's photo
Wed 10/01/08 01:22 PM
Of course you don't have to believe in satan, God, Christ.....none of it......That is why you are given freewill.

For me myself and I.....he is very real....and every bad, ugly, nasty, vile, of this planet is of satan. I have to think that if not for the influence of satan we would not have kids starving, rapes, crime, and because it is getting worse and worse...this leads me to believe that we are living the end times right now...

Revelation 22

Jesus Is Coming

7"Behold, I am coming soon! Blessed is he who keeps the words of the prophecy in this book."

8I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I had heard and seen them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who had been showing them to me. 9But he said to me, "Do not do it! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers the prophets and of all who keep the words of this book. Worship God!"

10Then he told me, "Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, because the time is near. 11Let him who does wrong continue to do wrong; let him who is vile continue to be vile; let him who does right continue to do right; and let him who is holy continue to be holy."

12"Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done. 13I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.

14"Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city. 15Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.

16"I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you[a] this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star."

17The Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" And let him who hears say, "Come!" Whoever is thirsty, let him come; and whoever wishes, let him take the free gift of the water of life.

18I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. 19And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.

20He who testifies to these things says, "Yes, I am coming soon."
Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.

21The grace of the Lord Jesus be with God's people. Amen.


But again......I want you to do what is necessary or right for you...because unless your heart is open to receive the Lord & Savior Jesus Christ as Lord...then there is no purpose in it for you.

bergeia's photo
Wed 10/01/08 01:24 PM
i personally feel satan is an embodiment of everything we lust after. hes not physical or a demon. hes not hiding in the center of the earth, thats nonsense. hes just a way to explain murder and all the wonderful things we do to each other. oddly enough though most of the wrost things we do as humans are for our precious organized religions. crusades anyone? lol

enderra's photo
Wed 10/01/08 01:28 PM
It still remains that you believe satan is responsible the the evil men do and not the men themselves.

Furthermore, if we are made in God's image then God must be controlled by the devil as we are.

Or perhaps God is imperfect as we are?

feralcatlady's photo
Wed 10/01/08 01:36 PM
Edited by feralcatlady on Wed 10/01/08 01:41 PM
Of course men and women are responsible but they let satan in to use them......And remember that satan was God's right hand angel until he thought he was better then God....Big Big Mistake....and guess what; God cast him here for 1,000 years......but in the end he will go right where he belongs....


God is perfect....humans are not.....


It's funny because I don't take your buddist god and shred him now do I.....to each his own......But also applies to Christians.

enderra's photo
Wed 10/01/08 01:47 PM
I am not shredding your God. I am questioning your logic and your dogma. Of course you can use your freewill to say that you just simply believe and have faith and that is why you believe in things that make no sense.

You say people believe but they let satan in, What do you have little doors somewhere on your bodies? No, (you) do bad thing and regret them and simply blame it on satan.

ljcc1964's photo
Wed 10/01/08 01:47 PM
I know Satan exists. I was married to him.

bergeia's photo
Wed 10/01/08 01:48 PM
see? this is what happens when you question religion? i personally think the afterlife wa sinvented because some old egotist couldnt handle the fact that what we got on earth is all we got.

organized religion is such a waste, ntm the current pope was a anzi. thats a great idea. really. in the italy campaign in ww2 the current pope had the opportunity to save hundreds of jews from slaughter but he remained mute to spare his relations with hitler. wtf?

if god is so real why does he let men commit atrocities in his name?

DeusExMachina's photo
Wed 10/01/08 01:53 PM
The greatest trick the devil ever played was making the world believe he didn’t exist.

bergeia's photo
Wed 10/01/08 01:54 PM
lol. i tell you what if the devil comes up out of the ground and hes wreathed in fire and has wings and horns i swear to anyhting and everythign i will crap myself and eat it.

talldub's photo
Wed 10/01/08 01:54 PM

There is a clinical term for people who see evil all around them. :wink: :laughing:

Preachers?

feralcatlady's photo
Wed 10/01/08 01:55 PM

I am not shredding your God. I am questioning your logic and your dogma. Of course you can use your freewill to say that you just simply believe and have faith and that is why you believe in things that make no sense.

You say people believe but they let satan in, What do you have little doors somewhere on your bodies? No, (you) do bad thing and regrndet them and simply blame it on satan.


So mine is logic and dogma huh.....and you can say it doesn't make sense......for "YOU" and you only......because it makes perfect sense to me......

satan is free to attack anyone who doesn't have the protection of Christ...simple as that...But see that is the big difference between you and I....Anyone let's say the serial killer who said satan made him do it....Well that is all fine and dandy but when he is judged......ahhhhhhh you loose....Because God knows all....

So just to say "I blame all my nasty on satan" doesn't cut it.

talldub's photo
Wed 10/01/08 01:55 PM

The greatest trick the devil ever played was making the world believe he didn’t exist.

He can do some pretty amazing things with ping pong balls too....

enderra's photo
Wed 10/01/08 01:56 PM
God is simply us. We are all responsible for what happens on this earth. If we turn our heads away from what is ugly like poverty, violence, injustice we are to blame. We suffer because we bare the illusion that we a separate from one another. That we only bare responsibility for those who believe as we do, or look like us etc...

As the good book tries to teach "I am my brother's keeper" who is listening?

DeusExMachina's photo
Wed 10/01/08 02:00 PM
Self-divinity is the religious doctrine of Satan. By denying the creator and putting yourself into godhead your doing exactly what Satan did long ago. All new age movements and satanic cults preach the “god consciousness” this concept is far from new and is the same deceiving doctrine since the rebellion.

enderra's photo
Wed 10/01/08 02:02 PM
I have known people that were saved and still did unspeakable things to themselves and others.

When I questioned why were they protected, this answer is, "Well, they didn't really believe."

You can't have it both ways, either Jesus saves or he doesn't .

no photo
Wed 10/01/08 02:03 PM
Edited by g4ntz100points on Wed 10/01/08 02:46 PM
If you actively search for answers and still aren't convinced that a god could exist, it can't really be held against you due to the fact that the a lot of the information in the bible is irrational/illogical. One can't be blamed if they don't wish to practice blind faith. After all, "God" gave us minds to think with.



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