Army website: Army, other branches to "patrol homeland" of USA

This sounds an awful lot like Washington is planning to turn America into a larger version of Baghdad. Do we really need armed troops patroling our streets here at home? Setting up road blocks, tasering citizens, and who knows what else?

Historically, when a Government begins creating entities like DHS and proclaiming every bump in the night to be terrorism, they always swing the business end on it's own population. That seems to be whats happening now. Coincidence that it's occuring in conjuncture with our economic house of cards coming down?
I don't believe in coincidence, its extremely rare.

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/

Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1

3rd Infantry’s 1st BCT trains for a new dwell-time mission. Helping ‘people at home’ may become a permanent part of the active Army
By Gina Cavallaro - Staff writer
Posted : Monday Sep 8, 2008 6:15:06 EDT

The 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team has spent 35 of the last 60 months in Iraq patrolling in full battle rattle, helping restore essential services and escorting supply convoys.

Now they’re training for the same mission — with a twist — at home.

Beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the 1st BCT will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command, as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks.

It is not the first time an active-duty unit has been tapped to help at home. In August 2005, for example, when Hurricane Katrina unleashed hell in Mississippi and Louisiana, several active-duty units were pulled from various posts and mobilized to those areas.

But this new mission marks the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to NorthCom, a joint command established in 2002 to provide command and control for federal homeland defense efforts and coordinate defense support of civil authorities.

After 1st BCT finishes its dwell-time mission, expectations are that another, as yet unnamed, active-duty brigade will take over and that the mission will be a permanent one.

“Right now, the response force requirement will be an enduring mission. How the [Defense Department] chooses to source that and whether or not they continue to assign them to NorthCom, that could change in the future,” said Army Col. Louis Vogler, chief of NorthCom future operations. “Now, the plan is to assign a force every year.”

The command is at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado Springs, Colo., but the soldiers with 1st BCT, who returned in April after 15 months in Iraq, will operate out of their home post at Fort Stewart, Ga., where they’ll be able to go to school, spend time with their families and train for their new homeland mission as well as the counterinsurgency mission in the war zones.

Stop-loss will not be in effect, so soldiers will be able to leave the Army or move to new assignments during the mission, and the operational tempo will be variable.

Don’t look for any extra time off, though. The at-home mission does not take the place of scheduled combat-zone deployments and will take place during the so-called dwell time a unit gets to reset and regenerate after a deployment.

The 1st of the 3rd is still scheduled to deploy to either Iraq or Afghanistan in early 2010, which means the soldiers will have been home a minimum of 20 months by the time they ship out.

In the meantime, they’ll learn new skills, use some of the ones they acquired in the war zone and more than likely will not be shot at while doing any of it.

They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack.

Training for homeland scenarios has already begun at Fort Stewart and includes specialty tasks such as knowing how to use the “jaws of life” to extract a person from a mangled vehicle; extra medical training for a CBRNE incident; and working with U.S. Forestry Service experts on how to go in with chainsaws and cut and clear trees to clear a road or area.

The 1st BCT’s soldiers also will learn how to use “the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded,” 1st BCT commander Col. Roger Cloutier said, referring to crowd and traffic control equipment and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them.

“It’s a new modular package of nonlethal capabilities that they’re fielding. They’ve been using pieces of it in Iraq, but this is the first time that these modules were consolidated and this package fielded, and because of this mission we’re undertaking we were the first to get it.”

The package includes equipment to stand up a hasty road block; spike strips for slowing, stopping or controlling traffic; shields and batons; and, beanbag bullets.

“I was the first guy in the brigade to get Tasered,” said Cloutier, describing the experience as “your worst muscle cramp ever — times 10 throughout your whole body.

“I’m not a small guy, I weigh 230 pounds ... it put me on my knees in seconds.”

The brigade will not change its name, but the force will be known for the next year as a CBRNE Consequence Management Response Force, or CCMRF (pronounced “sea-smurf”).

“I can’t think of a more noble mission than this,” said Cloutier, who took command in July. “We’ve been all over the world during this time of conflict, but now our mission is to take care of citizens at home ... and depending on where an event occurred, you’re going home to take care of your home town, your loved ones.”

While soldiers’ combat training is applicable, he said, some nuances don’t apply.

“If we go in, we’re going in to help American citizens on American soil, to save lives, provide critical life support, help clear debris, restore normalcy and support whatever local agencies need us to do, so it’s kind of a different role,” said Cloutier, who, as the division operations officer on the last rotation, learned of the homeland mission a few months ago while they were still in Iraq.

Some brigade elements will be on call around the clock, during which time they’ll do their regular marksmanship, gunnery and other deployment training. That’s because the unit will continue to train and reset for the next deployment, even as it serves in its CCMRF mission.

Should personnel be needed at an earthquake in California, for example, all or part of the brigade could be scrambled there, depending on the extent of the need and the specialties involved.

Other branches included
The active Army’s new dwell-time mission is part of a NorthCom and DOD response package.

Active-duty soldiers will be part of a force that includes elements from other military branches and dedicated National Guard Weapons of Mass Destruction-Civil Support Teams.

A final mission rehearsal exercise is scheduled for mid-September at Fort Stewart and will be run by Joint Task Force Civil Support, a unit based out of Fort Monroe, Va., that will coordinate and evaluate the interservice event.

In addition to 1st BCT, other Army units will take part in the two-week training exercise, including elements of the 1st Medical Brigade out of Fort Hood, Texas, and the 82nd Combat Aviation Brigade from Fort Bragg, N.C.

There also will be Air Force engineer and medical units, the Marine Corps Chemical, Biological Initial Reaction Force, a Navy weather team and members of the Defense Logistics Agency and the Defense Threat Reduction Agency.

One of the things Vogler said they’ll be looking at is communications capabilities between the services.

“It is a concern, and we’re trying to check that and one of the ways we do that is by having these sorts of exercises. Leading up to this, we are going to rehearse and set up some of the communications systems to make sure we have interoperability,” he said.

“I don’t know what America’s overall plan is — I just know that 24 hours a day, seven days a week, there are soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines that are standing by to come and help if they’re called,” Cloutier said. “It makes me feel good as an American to know that my country has dedicated a force to come in and help the people at home.”

Any military person who fires at or shows any aggression to American citizens is a filthy traitor in my opinion.

What, no response?

Here let me pick out the good parts:

But this new mission marks the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to NorthCom, a joint command established in 2002 to provide command and control for federal homeland defense efforts and coordinate defense support of civil authorities.


“Right now, the response force requirement will be an enduring mission. How the [Defense Department] chooses to source that and whether or not they continue to assign them to NorthCom, that could change in the future,” said Army Col. Louis Vogler, chief of NorthCom future operations. “Now, the plan is to assign a force every year.”


They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control... ( Is it also a coincidence that the militaries big new weapons are soft kill, like the microwave cannon, the acoutic device and crap like that, yea, they'd really be using that in Afghanistan. LOL, that stuff is for us, which leads us to this part)

The 1st BCT’s soldiers also will learn how to use “the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded,” 1st BCT commander Col. Roger Cloutier said, referring to crowd and traffic control equipment and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them.

“It’s a new modular package of nonlethal capabilities that they’re fielding. They’ve been using pieces of it in Iraq, but this is the first time that these modules were consolidated and this package fielded, and because of this mission we’re undertaking we were the first to get it.”

The package includes equipment to stand up a hasty road block; spike strips for slowing, stopping or controlling traffic; shields and batons; and, beanbag bullets.

“I was the first guy in the brigade to get Tasered,” said Cloutier, describing the experience as “your worst muscle cramp ever — times 10 throughout your whole body.

“I’m not a small guy, I weigh 230 pounds ... it put me on my knees in seconds.”



I don’t know what America’s overall plan is — I just know that 24 hours a day, seven days a week, there are soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines that are standing by to come and help if they’re called,” Cloutier said. “It makes me feel good as an American to know that my country has dedicated a force to come in and help the people at home.”
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Well, I'm so glad it makes him feel good, it scares the crap out of me, What happened to Posse Comitataus? Oh, thats right, Bush suspended it... and those of us who pointed at it were told, "No way, does the military police the U.S., you're a conspiracy theorist."
Well, it's not often that I'm frightened of being right, but that seems to be happening more and more often now. I'm beginning to believe that wall we're slowly building on the southern border isn't to keep people out, but to keep people in.

I see, while I was responding to the lack of posting, you snuck in there and made me look like a jacka$$. Good job Mirror! LOL!

If the military ever begins killing American citizens Im sure it will be at the behest of the neocons. This is why it must be made clear to all American soldiers that any action against American civilians is an act of treason.

I gotta wonder whats coming, though.

Do you think that Americans will just sit by while we are being led to the slaughterhouse?

Nevermind the agreements Bush signed with his SPP crap that assures that foriegn military groups can be interchangeable with our forces in the event of social unrest.

Foreign forces policing US streets

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In San Francisco on Wednesday, Chinese paramilitaries lent a hand to policing the streets. Is this just the beginning?
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by Gary R. Carter
(Libertarian)
Saturday, April 12, 2008
Majora Carter was relieved of her torch-bearing duties in San Francisco on Wednesday. It seems the Chinese paramilitary members policing San Francisco streets weren't too pleased with her political stunt of quietly wielding a Tibetan flag in protest. At the behest of the Chinese Olympic Torch Squad, San Francisco police reprimanded her and pushed her to the sidewalk. While Carter was under the impression that the 1st Amendment still existed in the United States,2 of her fellow torch-bearers and fellow New Yorkers found her attempt to exercise that archaic amendment "disgusting and appalling". While the San Francisco portion of the torch-carrying ceremony failed to create the coverage and headlines of the London segment last week, one has to wonder if there is any hope for the 1st amendment and how long before we are conditioned to accept foreign troops giving us orders.

After all, on February 14th 2008, the US and Canada entered into a military agreement that would allow foreign troops on to US soil in the case of a domestic emergency, and vice-versa. Dubbed a "Civil Assistance" plan, this agreement was never brought before Congress, debated in Congress or approved by Congress. It's no wonder we have all those crazies running around out there, babbling incoherently about some conspiracy to undermine the separation of powers and create a North American Union. However, I am not sure what gives NORAD Commander and Commander of USNORTHCOM Air Force General Gene Renuart the authority to sign such an agreement, and to what extent it will be implemented in the event that the US suffers from civil strife in the form of a health epidemic, terrorist attack, rioting or general unrest.

A similar agreement was made by the Security and Prosperity Partnership in August 2007, and will bring UN troops to the US in the event of an avian flu pandemic. Titled North America Plan, this 53 page document seems to contradict all reassurances that the SPP is not a policy creating body. Still, though this independent body exercises beyond Congressional oversight, they have engaged in agreements that severely undermine our system of government. It appears that Congress intervened to cut funding from the SPP budget shortly after the Montebello summit last summer. Unfortunately, with another summit to take place April 21st-22nd in New Orleans, it doesn't appear the SPP has been too distracted by any opposition, as President Bush audaciously announced this next meeting in has last State of the Union address.

With all this creative negotiating taking place, the haunting specter of National Directive NSPD 51 is all the more real. This directive, signed by Bush in May of last year, will give the Executive branch ultimate power in the event of a national security crisis. As with the "Civil Assistance" plan previously discussed, the definitions of what constitute a national emergency are vague and general. With power flowing directly to the Executive branch, it is only a matter of time before a president decides to use all of the new toys at his or her disposal.

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You folks do realize that if PDD 51 goes into effect, all this babbling crap about McBama is moot, because Bush's little joke about being the dictator will come to fruition, right?

just imagine all the fun the demoncrats will have applauding nobama while he destroys all those pesky self righteous conservatives and bible thumping God and Guns rednecks everywhere.

The party is just getting started.

Ted Nugent for VP!!!!!!!!!!!!

What a ridiculous post. Always thinking left vs. right.

Just remember, when fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross.

like nobamaisms?

he does don his American Flag lapel pin when it suits him not to appear too much of an empty suit.

that is most definitely what first comes to mind as fascism and errily similar to National Socialism.

clintonomics pale to nobama's plans for benevolent dictatorship.,


no thanks.


you got mixed up there.


Isn't that 'right' or have I 'left' something out?

I wouldn't want to dissapoint your attention span and train of thought.

After all, you are joking , right?

why is that mirror?

as far as I am concerned, the looney liberals want nothing better than to erase us God, duty, guns, mom and apple pie crowd from civil discourse as backwards rednecks beneath their elitis dignity.

they kill babies with impunity.

wht not adults?

they want to free all of the oppressed people in prison,,,yeah right.

and imprison the free and the brave that serve God and country and make it poosib;le for them to take over and move us over.

It is definitely on topic.

This conutry is not a conservative bastion of reactionary traditions, but one of "progressive" fascist socialism dictated from the elitists as spoon fed pablum.



mmmmm...mmmmm..good.

Im sure if I respond you will go off into a diatribe about racial genetics and ethnic purity or something equally bizarre so why respond to you?

well, apparently you are confused enough to try.

you have trouble knowing what is on topic and what is not.

Everytime Nobama makes his callous and racist remarks and he is called on the carpet for it when his socialist proselytizers come out of the woodwork to extoll his pluralistic inclusiveness, all that Nobama has ever said that contradicts nobama is somehow the fault of his eenemies, and not his responsibility to bear.

The sexist and racist nature of nobama and his diversity crew fail to act like pluralists when left to their own liberty to be wgho they are when they let their hair down speaking to their socialist bases.

The racism and sexism of the nobama camp is focused clearly against White conservative christian voters that will not buy his duplicitous lies and find nothing but contempt from nobama.

But like nobama, his supporters through transference and projection play the bi polar blame shifting game like what you are doing here and ascribe nobamas delusions onto us that refuse his atrophied locquaitiousness.



simply put, mirror, you are trifling.





have some KOOL AID.

I dont care about Obama. Your words speak for themselves.

no kidding?

Right now this has nothing to do with Mcbama. It has everything to do with brainwashed and apathetic americans and the globalists taking advantage of it.
This is not a good sign for our nation, if we can't regain control of the republic, everyone might as well kiss their a$$ goodbye.



For Christs sake, wake up.

either join the socialsits in the cities....


or join the militias in the rural areas.

don't like their politics, then start your own militia.

civil war is inevitable if martial law is declared in a panic depression that will be part of a global economic meltdown.

the cities will require being supplied by whatever the land produces and money talks and bs walks with this government that is too big to tell to shut up, war.


they will take the land, and turn everything into public domain and change water and mineral rights under martial law and control commerce and issue new script, not dollars.

we've been there before, to some degree at different times as a nation.

we have been through government rationing too.


don't think for a MINUTE that Americans in rural America are going to rollover for the city dwellers.

nope.

not going to happen.

The cities will be hell, pure and simple.


either we fix it with what we have or we fall down and break.

Nothing will ever be quite the same now.

Do you realize what you just advocated is a violation of the patriot act and the Homegrown terrorist prevention act?

Does anyone else see what these traitors have done to our nation?

We have to put the social issues crap on the shelf. There is 2 new choices we have to make
Freedom or Slavery, everyone gets to choose


Now, those were 2 constitution killing pieces of legislation and it's both parties that are responsible for it.

I have never read such B.S.!!