does anyone really think that god made man out of clay or mud, or earth? I mean come on - this is just allegory or parableistic right? or are their those who really think this is the case?

If you think about the turmultuous beginnings of the Earth....nothing but "mud"

Not sure bout the whole "God" created anything........ but when our spirit/soul leaves our body, we do eventually turn to nothing but dust.......so in essence our bodies are indeed made of "earth" and..... "water".

There are those who think this is the case.

Our bodies are made of the same fundamental building blocks as clay or mud... ALL matter contains these same building blocks. The belief in/of what brought this Universe (comprised of these building blocks) into existence is the launching point of Religion (interpretation).

so are you saying then that the writer of that day [we will say moses] really was receiving this info from god then? has it not been just recently that man has been able to discover this fact of what we are made of a at a fundamental level of scientific endeavor? how is it that Moses, or the writer, would have knew of such a thing back then if that's the case??

Moses' interpretation of "words" were most likely in alignment with the reference point or "thoughts" of his contemporaries.

I am not religious, so I don't assume to "know" the ACTUAL source of the words. I will say that there is trust that these "words" were in some way Universal and applicable to all points in time.

Well even according to YOU God could not have made something out of NOTHING.

(And of course that would depend on what was in the mud.)

And of course it would depend on your concept of God.

According to evolutionists life spurts forth from the bowels of the earth from a volcano in the ocean depths, and from there it begins to eat and have sex and mutate into all manner of living microbs and organisms and then it evolves.

So, the genetic material was already here for humans to evolve. Hence, they evolved from the mud of the earth.

But if you are asking if a God took his hands and formed the image of a human out of mud and breathed life into it and magically it became a man, ...er.... no.

JB

"er.." is a funches response - is he rubbing off on you?


according to me? hmmm? well if your right there cannot be nothing, nothing does not exist, correct? Creative force is able to bring forth material of which can be used for the purposes of all creation. and your correct, it was not magic. that's abra's feild.
I'm not quite sure about the "evolvers" - though there is evidence for what your saying to a degree, from what i've seen those microbes don't even need sunlight and live off non animal feedings, it's been awhile since i saw this so i don't remember exactly, but i know they said it was the first time they had found organisms that could live without these things.

So - again - as i said before, if the "book god" is recorded as having made man out of earth -[whatever kind]- how would moses [or writer] have known this on his own back then? hmmm??

Well.... er..... God told him of course.

ok i quit!! i can handle anything but "funchbulary" let me know when your one of your other personalities ok?

by the way - how's that Bit*h Jackie -

Don't mess with Jackie, she will clean your clock.

I don't see why it would have taken "God" or any highly scientific mind to realize that when one dies they decompose into dirt................?? Then to assume or claim that if we end as dirt.......we started as dirt.

granted, that's the most obvious. but even if one watched a corpse of even an animal turn back into dust over time - what would make them write our creation as such by a god? To me it would seem that once the animal was bone they would think more along the lines of starting with bone than with earth? Hmmm??

One of "those" here I reckon.

Gen2:7- And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Not sure if it is parableistic or literal, but take it as God creating man. the first "of" being in italic in my bible leads me to want to study the meaning of that a bit, but honestly am to tired at this time.

I'll be one of "those" for the time being.

One of "those" here I reckon.

Gen2:7- And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Not sure if it is parableistic or literal, but take it as God creating man. the first "of" being in italic in my bible leads me to want to study the meaning of that a bit, but honestly am to tired at this time.

I'll be one of "those" for the time being.

sorry bout the double post thing, puter froze up a second and thats what i got

But since I believe that God created the universe, the earth, that was and is now and is to come, then I must also believe that this is possible although I cannot understand or know how.