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He can have my gun, bullets firs, 165 grains at a time Amen brotha 
Like freedom of speech there needs to be no more restrictions on firearms. From what i hear you need a permit in some states to own one. That's just like requiring someone to get a permit in order to speak their mind. These rights shall not be infringed and to further do so, in my opinion, would be attacking the constitution just as badly as the patriot act did, if not more. your logic is off. free speech is not like the right to bear arms. you cant kill with words. its more comparable to a car. everyone has a right to drive a car as long as you are over a certain age and can pass the test you will get a license. for guns the age requirement isnt even there in most cases you can have a gun as long as you have a license and have no felony (a DUI on the cars case). the government just wants you to get a license for your gun in case your gun is used in a crime. it is a law enforcement tool not a tool to take away guns. i am a "liberal" i have no need to take your guns. if you shoot someone the license gives me confidence you can be tracked down. Oh but you can kill with words my friend!! Just look at Hitler. His words made many pick up guns and kill millions. The logic i use is the same logic that our forefathers used in forming our constitution. In getting rid of these rights you are paving the way to tyranny... No matter how you want to slice it. Look at Benjamin Franklins quote about freedom and safety. to alter a phrase. words don't kill people, people kill people. Hitler said a lot of things but it was his armies that killed people not the words. as to your other point. i agree that we need to keep guns in case we have to ice the government one day. im just saying...as you seem to agree that there should be some sort of training involved in handling a gun. i was in the military and i trained on M16, 50cal, granades. if the point is to keep a well regulated militia then shouldn't that require some training? especially when you may have to fight the governments well trained military Very true. I agree. Hell, where was it? Sweeden or Switzerland...? One of those countries i believe issues every citizen a firearm after a certain age. They are also given training that is mandatory with those firearms. I would be happy if this were the case in the U.S. Decent semi auto rifles issued with training and 500 rounds of ammo. I bet you would see crime rate drop pretty drastically... lol yeah. that has actually been demonstrated as true. out here in California a town called Beaumont they started issuing concealed weapons permits. the crime rate dropped almost immediately. curiously though the crime rate jumped in the surrounding cities lol. those cities got pretty pissed and forced Beaumont to stop. crime rates went back to normal. still i have no use for a gun. if they issued me one id keep it but most likely never use it. i really think you can trust that Obama doesnt want to mess with guns though, if nothing else he needs votes in red states and if he is elected he will be trying to get re-elected for a second term. if there is one thing you can count on its the promise of a politician when hes trying to get elected. well that may not hold much water now that i think of it but back in 2000 the election was decided by less than 600 votes. Id say Obama doesnt wanna piss off 600 people |
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Guns are mounted, firearms are carried.
If I have the right to bear arms, don't I need a bear license first? lol Really though, firearms and guns in the hands of people create more problems than solve--that is irrefutable. My state does not allow concealed carry or vests, and I thank my lucky stars every day for that. I don't want to have that dynamic every time I see someone reaching inside their coat or for their belt or ankle. Hunting is great, target practice is great, and there is no reason why a person couldn't just sign one out and bring it back to lock-up for these purposes. If there is an issue of personal protection....brothers and sisters....we then have way bigger issues that need to be tackled long before this. |
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I THINK LIBS CARE MORE ABOUT THE WOLVES THAN PEOPLE ANYWAY
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Edited by
Drivinmenutz
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Sat 09/06/08 10:53 PM
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. . . History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subjected peoples to carry arms have prepared their own fall.
--- Adolf Hitler, Edict of 18 March 1939 |
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Guns are mounted, firearms are carried. If I have the right to bear arms, don't I need a bear license first? lol Really though, firearms and guns in the hands of people create more problems than solve--that is irrefutable. My state does not allow concealed carry or vests, and I thank my lucky stars every day for that. I don't want to have that dynamic every time I see someone reaching inside their coat or for their belt or ankle. Hunting is great, target practice is great, and there is no reason why a person couldn't just sign one out and bring it back to lock-up for these purposes. If there is an issue of personal protection....brothers and sisters....we then have way bigger issues that need to be tackled long before this. "25 States allow anyone to buy a gun, strap it on, and walk down the street with no permit of any kind: some say it's crazy. However, 4 out of 5 US murders are committed in the other half of the country: so who is crazy?" -- Andrew Ford Lt. Lowell Duckett: "Gun control has not worked in D.C. The only people who have guns are criminals. We have the strictest gun laws in the nation and one of the highest murder rates. It's quicker to pull your Smith & Wesson than to dial 911 if you're being robbed." Special Assistant to DC Police Chief; President, Black Police Caucus, The Washington Post, March 22, 1996. Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage then to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. --- Thomas Jefferson, quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria in "On Crimes and Punishment", 1764 The Constitution preserves the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation where the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. --- James Madison, The Federalist No. 46 |
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It would not surprise me that he would try to take my gun. Gov does prefer unarmed Peasants.
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