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Topic: did Jesus commit suicide
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Fri 08/29/08 11:00 AM
if God has absolute power over life and death.. and Jesus is God ... then only Jesus could have taken his own life ...since Man can only set in motion death only God has the power absolute to take the life ...therefore Man didn't have the power to kill Jesus ..only Jesus had the power to kill himself ..therefore Jesus committed suicide .. it's no way around this logic


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Fri 08/29/08 11:02 AM
huh

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Fri 08/29/08 11:02 AM

if God has absolute power over life and death.. and Jesus is God ... then only Jesus could have taken his own life ...since Man can only set in motion death only God has the power absolute to take the life ...therefore Man didn't have the power to kill Jesus ..only Jesus had the power to kill himself ..therefore Jesus committed suicide .. it's no way around this logic




laugh

I think more atheists should tell Christians what they should believe and what the Bible teaches.

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Fri 08/29/08 11:03 AM
Your logic is severely flawed as humans have the power over life and death.

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Fri 08/29/08 11:05 AM
Jesus was the son of God, not "God". Jesus was a human mortal being.

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Fri 08/29/08 11:06 AM
I'm afraid to say there is a way around your logic... because it isn't logical.

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Fri 08/29/08 11:08 AM

Jesus was the son of God, not "God". Jesus was a human mortal being.
That's exactly what I was going to say.

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Fri 08/29/08 11:09 AM


Jesus was the son of God, not "God". Jesus was a human mortal being.
That's exactly what I was going to say.
flowerforyou

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Fri 08/29/08 11:12 AM


if God has absolute power over life and death.. and Jesus is God ... then only Jesus could have taken his own life ...since Man can only set in motion death only God has the power absolute to take the life ...therefore Man didn't have the power to kill Jesus ..only Jesus had the power to kill himself ..therefore Jesus committed suicide .. it's no way around this logic




laugh

I think more atheists should tell Christians what they should believe and what the Bible teaches.


well "SpiderCmb"... someone has to keep you on the path to true rightousness

so are you saying that God doesn't have absolute power over life and death or are you saying that Jesus isn't God ...

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Fri 08/29/08 11:13 AM
Jesus is not God, never was God. People call him "our Lord, King of Kings" and so on... but Jesus was not God himself. He was a mortal. It's a great tale, you should read it sometime flowerforyou

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Fri 08/29/08 11:13 AM
Edited by SkyHook5652 on Fri 08/29/08 11:14 AM



Jesus was the son of God, not "God". Jesus was a human mortal being.
That's exactly what I was going to say.
flowerforyou


Hmmmm....

That seems to contradict what I have been told about "The Holy Trinity" - that each of the three is simply a different manifestation of "The One True God".

But I (and those who taught me that) could be wrong.

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Fri 08/29/08 11:14 AM

Your logic is severely flawed as humans have the power over life and death.


according to Christians God has that power ... humans only have the power to set up the circumstances that can lead to death ..but ultimately it's God's will if the life is taken

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Fri 08/29/08 11:16 AM

Jesus was the son of God, not "God". Jesus was a human mortal being.


I'm referring to the Holy Trinity

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Fri 08/29/08 11:16 AM

I'm afraid to say there is a way around your logic... because it isn't logical.


how rude

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Fri 08/29/08 11:17 AM


I'm afraid to say there is a way around your logic... because it isn't logical.


how rude
I am really not trying to be rude. I apologizeflowerforyou

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Fri 08/29/08 11:22 AM

if God has absolute power over life and death.. and Jesus is God ... then only Jesus could have taken his own life ...since Man can only set in motion death only God has the power absolute to take the life ...therefore Man didn't have the power to kill Jesus ..only Jesus had the power to kill himself ..therefore Jesus committed suicide .. it's no way around this logic



Depends on how you define "suicide". He did not take his life by his own hand, he merely allowed it to happen. So is that suicide in the traditional sense?

However - when someone purposefully involves themselves in a shoot-out with police, they call this phenomina "Suicide by Police". So I suppose the idea of suicide - or our definition of it is evolving. There's evolution for you.

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Fri 08/29/08 11:23 AM

Jesus is not God, never was God. People call him "our Lord, King of Kings" and so on... but Jesus was not God himself. He was a mortal. It's a great tale, you should read it sometime flowerforyou


sorry "jill" I only read books with pictures in them ..besides I going by Christian belief ..just as they may claim something as being truth with no logical proof then aren't you now doing the same by claiming that Jesus wasn't God ..I'm not attempting to prove or disprove if Jesus was God ..I'm only debating that claim logically from the Christian prespective

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Fri 08/29/08 11:25 AM



I'm afraid to say there is a way around your logic... because it isn't logical.


how rude
I am really not trying to be rude. I apologizeflowerforyou


geez "jill" ...I'm joking

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Fri 08/29/08 11:27 AM


Your logic is severely flawed as humans have the power over life and death.


according to Christians God has that power ... humans only have the power to set up the circumstances that can lead to death ..but ultimately it's God's will if the life is taken


Well - I agree. Were I asked the queston, this would be my response.

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Fri 08/29/08 11:33 AM

Depends on how you define "suicide". He did not take his life by his own hand, he merely allowed it to happen. So is that suicide in the traditional sense?

However - when someone purposefully involves themselves in a shoot-out with police, they call this phenomina "Suicide by Police". So I suppose the idea of suicide - or our definition of it is evolving. There's evolution for you.


"Eljay" if someone in a shootout with police was God or Jesus ..then no matter how many times the police shot them they wouldn't die ...unless God or Jesus decided to take their own life

so are you agreeing that Jesus committed suicide

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