Exactly, and that's prefectly fine. I have no desire to change your personal views.

As you surely must know by now, my concern with the Mediterranean religions (Christianity, Judaism, and Islam) is that they are fundamentally determinental to humanity as a whole. As organized religions they denounce each others' views and cause political unrest and wars. Christianity is also often used in the USA to denounce scientific views, and it also impedes people from learning about truly loving religions.

I mean let's face it, Christianity has mankind at odds with God, it teaches childrend that they have fallen from grace from God and must seek salvation.

I mean, even on a social level I feel that the religion is deterimental to positive constructive view of life. It instills unnecessary feelings of guilt and unworthiness in perfectly decent people. In fact, I hold that it has a more damaging affect on the most innocent and pure of heart. Those are the people who will be emotionally hurt by these accusations. People who are truly nasty and hardened off in the first place don't really even care if God is pissed at them. So it has the least affect on the people that it needs to have the most affect on anyway.

On a personal note I have no problem with what you personally believe.

Ah... I misunderstood.

You're back in my will. Since I know it would be a futile task to petition the Holy Spirit to honor your request - because "It not his job, dude."

Well for one, we can remedy what your saying by changing my request to - jesus himself or god giving that which i asked for, thus eliminating the HS speaking of himself in any way ok? and will use verses such as ask anything in my name and i will give it unto you, for a start - since you are his then you can petition him in that way ok?

i'm not as patient as your god eljay but i can wait awhile till you or the others get the answers or answer - let's see it's monday, god created the entireity of what exsist in 6 days - how long do you think it will take him to answer you? A day or two? what ever you thinks best my friend, just don't forget ok?

sincerely __________ oh thats right he already knows don't he, thnks larry -

your faithful troll - tribo

well dude, thats a stupid question to be honest, God and the Holy Spirit has a lot more to do than play trivia games with a non believer, what you are asking just aint gonna happen, get over it


Jesus refused to give proof, therefore any such prayer wouldn't be in Jesus' name. Such a prayer would be asking God to prove himself to you, when you have yet to prove yourself to God. God gave you your conscience and the Bible, if you need more proof than that then you are probably not trying hard enough. My advice to you is this: Identify the stumbling blocks in your life and beliefs and address those.

They do have one thing in common.

They both worship aliens a Gods.

Ive seen some of it. Not all that interested. I agree with you.

spidey said:

Jesus refused to give proof, therefore any such prayer wouldn't be in Jesus' name. Such a prayer would be asking God to prove himself to you, when you have yet to prove yourself to God. God gave you your conscience and the Bible, if you need more proof than that then you are probably not trying hard enough. My advice to you is this: Identify the stumbling blocks in your life and beliefs and address those.

Tribo repies:

i ask for a specific request and i get >advice<

thanks spidey, i would expect no less from you or the others.

was not even "doubting thomas" not given what he asked for even while doubting?

Are you then saying it - meaning > a request by you or the others > god will not honor?

Yet he says - ask anything in my name and it shall be given unto you?

and please where does it state jesus >>refuses to give proof<< and what proof is he speaking of please?

I see nowhere where god is asking anybody to prove themselves to him before he proves himself to them in return?

if that were the case where would your religion be?

Why would any human need to portray himself/herself to god? Isnt he all knowing and such. Isnt that part of what he's able to do once we die, figure out if we have been naughty or nice and decide if we get let in?

When u die ur worm food!!! u must pray to me Lord Psycho!

Well the Scientologists dont exactly worship aliens. They believe that there are pieces of dead aliens splattered all over your soul that causes all your problems. They also think theres this alien that caused it all ,called "Xenu" imprisoned in a forcefield on Mars or Earth. Xenu is basically like Darth Vader so they are afraid he will get loose someday. And one day L.Ron Hubbard will thaw out of his ice cube and fight the villinous Galactic Lord Xenu and reunite planet Earth with the Galactic Federation.

Judas was a disciple, not an apostle.

The Holy Sirit had not been delivered to the eleven yet.

Paul made the twelfth after the fact.

apostle means "living letters".

disciple means 'student'.

there is a big difference between students and teachers, krimsa.

Well the point being, not a very loyal character was he? And he wasn't the only one that was trouble.

That is just another version of the story of Lucifer who was cast out of heaven (The galactic Federation) and has been imprisoned in the lower third density reality.

The "pieces of aliens" are remnants of alien DNA (hence information) left in our make up from the cross breading of the reptilian bloodlines with natural earther humans.

There are remnants of this same story in the Urantia Book, in the writings of Val Valarian, and many others. They are similar stories.

They all point to an intelligence that rebelled against the current rulers and was banished from the heavens to create and rule his own worlds.

Xenu is more like the character Lucifer or Satan.

Third density earth is the land of Satan if you want to get Biblical about it.



JB

Yeah thats probably where L.Ron Hubbard came up with this stuff. He intentionally interweaved it with these other belief systems in order to lend it an air of credibility. Its just crazy that this stuff is drawing in the bucks like it is.

Im ur Lord pray to me!!!! there is no other lord but ME!!!

Im pretty sure L. Ron Hubbard either was or is a Christian.

Im pretty sure your wrong. The man practiced every religion except Christianity at one time or another in his life. He was involved with Wicca,Satanism,Hinduism,Native American shamanism,Chinese magic, etc. He was very interested in religion, thats for sure. And alot of his followers like Paul Twitchell and Charles Manson started their own cults.