Topic: haliberton-cheney-no bid?? | |
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i see stocks at haliberton in the last 4 years went up x5! and then they
happen to get a NO BID contract& some dont think their is money behind this so called war?... thats why GB and his sidekick keep this iraq thing going.... what do you think?? |
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Name five corporations who have the resources to rebuild a country from
utilities to roads to housing to school systems and so on... |
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they are by far the only company that has the resources in place and
the manpower to do the job. The argument that there were no bids is like saying we should contract out the war to the lowest bidder. cmon. |
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besides, comerades, is it against the law for a company to make money
these days? |
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You GO rambill...
lol |
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I think 4fun06 needs to consider moving to france...he would fit in
quite well over there. That's just my humble opinion tho. |
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newguy kinda looks like a reptilian overseer. He could be the one behind
the reptilian takeover agenda and then again i wonder. |
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"name five"
in the US: SCHLUMBERGER LTD TECHNIP ADS Bechtel Group, Inc. The US Government Kohler Co. Not to mention the numerous other entities internationally and national governments that are up to the task, including our own. You don't have to have private entities do this, it's a matter of political philosophy and simple propaganda put out by well-meaning propagandists. |
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shadoweagle and 4fun06,
A serious 'webmaster' posting ERROR must have occurred here. It would appear from my preliminary analyisis, and ongoing discussions with the 'justsayhi' webmaster, that the answers to your questions, were mistakenly funnelled from a posting in the "religious chat" section called, "blind faith". The webmaster is trying to fix the problem, but I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. |
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Sorry 'rsaylors' didn't mean toleave you out!
You were not there as I was writing about the ERROR on this post!!! |
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my apologies voileazur.
I entirely get your joke... quite good... not sure how it applies to the situation thought... I did research and posted a response... how that's blind faith I'm not quite sure... maybe you should save your very good 'burn' for a more appropriate time, like when someone's talking about how the government would never lie. |
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I'll bet anything...
... that this 'ERROR' I was referring to earlier, will shoot right back and generate claims that there are some sort of scandals about each one of those four companies you've listed 'rsaylors' (the gov't is already clear), ... and the same 'ERROR' is probably standing by as we speak, ready with scandals for the hundred other companies that could easily compete and do a much better job than the Haliburton autocracy. Remember, this is an 'ERROR' we're dealing with here. ERRORS are never interested in making sense!!! |
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I am not sure it is all propaganda...
Sometimes the numbers tell the story. Halliburton In 2005 Halliburton employed 106,000 operating in over 120 countries. This did not include all subsidiaries. Schlumberger Employs over 70,000 people in 80 countries. Bechtel Group, Inc. Employs 40,000 in nearly 46 countries. (what does nearly mean?) Kohler Co. 31,000 associates worldwide. (associates ?) Technip ADS Employs 22,000 people worldwide. I doubt the US Gov could employee itself legally, however I do think some of the numbers above are inflated for appearances. Propaganda? Possibly, but truly, I question that too. I am not trying to poke holes here. Just interjecting some of the possible reasoning behind not taking bids. Only "the shadow" knows. LOL. |
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We employ ourselves publicly all the time, it's a matter of
privatization philosophy that has us using HB. I can see the argument for not using non-national firms but I can also see the argument for using whoever won't cost the American tax-payer as much and still get the job done. If you look at the 2 companies under HB you'll notice they add up to more than HB and if you broke the contracts down I'm sure you would divvy the work up in such a way that the same guy delivering your sandwiches wasn't the same guy delivering your e-mail. On the one hand you have a free-market, anti-public-sector, philosophy; on the other hand you've got a lack of competition... the one thing that makes private better than public. |
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Before 1995, year where Cheney joined Haliburton, the company was 73rd
in size, on the long list of defense contractors. In the course of Cheney's tenure as CEO, Halliburton's revenue from federal government contracts, which represented 65% of total revenu, nearly doubled. Such that by the time he retired from Halliburon to run for Vice President, the company had moved up fom 73rd to 18th largest defense contractor. Fair game I say. When the Iraq and Afghanistan reconstruction and Governement services contracts came up, circa 2003, the five companies 'rsaylors' pointed out had higher revenues and much greater overall resources than Halliburton at the time. If size alone had been the factor, Halliburton would not even have appeared on the radar. No argument could have supported the logic that Halliburton was at the time the ONLY adequate or better supplier of defense services to the US Governement, ... to the extent of eliminating all other candidates. On the contrary. The question isn't to deny Halliburton the fair possibility of winning 'some' of the defense contracts by merit. The question which remains to this day is 'why was Halliburton favored so', ... when absolutely nothing justified it. There's no need to even start analysing all the actual and presumed lawsuits and contract irregularities that Halliburton is facing in relation to this file. Intervening with our free-enterprise system when nothing justifies it, IS ABUSIVE, and will bring abusive results from the ones involved. And that 'should be' most un-American. |
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hey bill..79... you are so wrong!! thats why haliberton is over there to
make a buck!... dude they are not over there for FREE!!!.... keep it real! |
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yes so does war. right cheney . now that dems in charge let see them
wiggle out of this. |
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hell yah thier there to make money. is that illegal now?
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amway has lots of emplyees too. so does Mcdonalds. Whats the point?
Halliburton is the only contractor that can do the job period. get used to it. |
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yes really awful funny was run by cheney.just luck right.
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