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Democracy is when the indigent, and not the men of property, are the rulers. Aristotle Communism is for suck ass losers who have no balls and have an insatiable desire for someone to replace their mommy. Zapchaser And communisim amazingly is working far better then the "democracy" we have, think if Russia and China were to join hands...what fun that would be for the "democrats". Face it, every political face has some sort of rotten background. Democrats have money issues at times and republicans...well they have slightly larger money issues...most of the time...last 8 years as a matter of fact... Yes so well, China only forcefully displaced 1.5 million of its citizens to prepare for the olympics. Why should the government care if they destroy their citizens homes and businesses. |
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Democracy is when the indigent, and not the men of property, are the rulers. Aristotle Communism is for suck ass losers who have no balls and have an insatiable desire for someone to replace their mommy. Zapchaser And communisim amazingly is working far better then the "democracy" we have, think if Russia and China were to join hands...what fun that would be for the "democrats". Face it, every political face has some sort of rotten background. Democrats have money issues at times and republicans...well they have slightly larger money issues...most of the time...last 8 years as a matter of fact... Yes so well, China only forcefully displaced 1.5 million of its citizens to prepare for the olympics. Why should the government care if they destroy their citizens homes and businesses. They don't care. That is why they are communist pigs. |
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dumping your first wife for a better model...sounds like everday America...to me... what's your point
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Some people would be better to '... turn their keyboards 7 times, before typing such 'loud' inept insinuations as 'Representative Rebublic', somehow isn't a form of democracy. As such, it is perfectly accurate to refer to the 'representative repubublic' system of governement of the USA, as a 'democracy'. For those attempting to spread the kind of semantics 'affront', insinuating that the USA is not a democracy, and doing it in a rude, and condescending intimidation burst, you are politely asked to go wipe the egg off your faces!!! ... and to make sure you hit the shower, here are the different forms which DEMOCRACY can take: Representative (Example: FRANCE AND USA: REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLICS) Representative democracy involves the selection of government officials by the people being represented. The most common mechanisms involve election of the candidate with a majority or a plurality of the votes. Representatives may be elected or become diplomatic representatives by a particular district (or constituency), or represent the entire electorate proportionally proportional systems, with some using a combination of the two. Some representative democracies also incorporate elements of direct democracy, such as referendums. A characteristic of representative democracy is that while the representatives are elected by the people to act in their interest, they retain the freedom to exercise their own judgment as how best to do so. Parliamentary democracy : (Great-Britain and most Commonwealth nations) Parliamentary democracy where government is appointed by parliamentary representatives as opposed to a 'presidential rule' by decree dictatorship. Under a parliamentary democracy, government is exercised by delegation to an executive ministry and subject to ongoing review, checks and balances by the legislative parliament elected by the people. Liberal democracy A Liberal democracy is a representative democracy in which the ability of the elected representatives to exercise decision-making power is subject to the rule of law, and usually moderated by a constitution that emphasizes the protection of the rights and freedoms of individuals, and which places constraints on the leaders and on the extent to which the will of the majority can be exercised against the rights of minorities (see civil liberties). Direct Democracy Direct democracy is a political system where the citizens participate in the decision-making personally, contrary to relying on intermediaries or representatives. The supporters of direct democracy argue that democracy is more than merely a procedural issue (i.e., voting).[28] Most direct democracies to date have been weak forms, relatively small communities, usually city-states. However, some see the extensive use of referendums, as in California, as akin to direct democracy in a very large polity with more than 20 million in California, 1898-1998 (2000) (ISBN 0-8047-3821-1). In Switzerland, five million voters decide on national referendums and initiatives two to four times a year; direct democratic instruments are also well established at the cantonal and communal level. Vermont towns have been known for their yearly town meetings, held every March to decide on local issues. Socialist Democracy Socialist thought has several different views on democracy. Social democracy, democratic socialism, and the dictatorship of the proletariat (usually exercised through Soviet democracy) are some examples. Many democratic socialists and social democrats believe in a form of participatory democracy and workplace democracy combined with a representative democracy. Within Marxist orthodoxy there is a hostility to what is commonly called "liberal democracy", which they simply refer to as parliamentary democracy because of its often centralized nature. Because of their desire to eliminate the political elitism they see in capitalism, Marxists, Leninists and Trotskyists believe in direct democracy implemented though a system of communes (which are sometimes called soviets). This system ultimately manifests itself as council democracy and begins with workplace democracy. (See Democracy in Marxism) Anarchist Democracy The only form of democracy considered acceptable to many anarchists is direct democracy. Some anarchists oppose direct democracy while others favour it. Pierre-Joseph Proudhon argued that the only acceptable form of direct democracy is one in which it is recognized that majority decisions are not binding on the minority, even when unanimous.[29] However, anarcho-communist Murray Bookchin criticized individualist anarchists for opposing democracy,[30] and says "majority rule" is consistent with anarchism.[31] Some anarcho-communists oppose the majoritarian nature of direct democracy, feeling that it can impede individual liberty and opt in favour of a non-majoritarian form of consensus democracy, similar to Proudhon's position on direct democracy.[32] Iroquois Democracy Iroquois society had a form of participatory democracy and representative democracy.[33] Iroquois government and law was discussed by Benjamin Franklin[33] and Thomas Jefferson.[34] Because of this, some scholars regard it to have influenced the formation of American representative democracy.[34] However scholars who reject multiculturalism disagree that the influence existed or was of any great importance.[35] Sortition Sometimes called "democracy without elections", sortition is the process of choosing decision makers via a random process. The intention is that those chosen will be representative of the opinions and interests of the people at large, and be more fair and impartial than an elected official. The technique was in widespread use in Athenian Democracy and is still used in modern jury selection. It is not universally agreed that sortition should be considered "democracy" due to the lack of actual elections[citation needed]. Consensus democracy Consensus democracy requires varying degrees of consensus rather than just a mere democratic majority. It typically attempts to protect minority rights from domination by majority rule. Interactive Democracy Interactive Democracy seeks to utilise information technology to involve voters in law making. It provides a system for proposing new laws, prioritising proposals, clarifying them through parliament and validating them through referendum. Yes, while it is true that a representative republic is a form of democracy, it is not a democracy in total as it is often inaccurately described. I will not blather on as you have in your attempt to make gold from straw but instead I will simply state that we are a REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC and not a Democracy. And if you would kindly never use the US and the French (Ooh la la! spineless she-males) flag waving surrender monkeys in the same body of text...... that would be great. Being a Frenchie I am shocked that you can even spell shower. You must have found it on Wiki? |
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Democracy is when the indigent, and not the men of property, are the rulers. Aristotle Communism is for suck ass losers who have no balls and have an insatiable desire for someone to replace their mommy. Zapchaser And communisim amazingly is working far better then the "democracy" we have, think if Russia and China were to join hands...what fun that would be for the "democrats". Face it, every political face has some sort of rotten background. Democrats have money issues at times and republicans...well they have slightly larger money issues...most of the time...last 8 years as a matter of fact... Yes so well, China only forcefully displaced 1.5 million of its citizens to prepare for the olympics. Why should the government care if they destroy their citizens homes and businesses. They don't care. That is why they are communist pigs. |
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I apologize in advance for the large cut and paste but this was just too good to pass up. When Kerry ran for president right wing pundits made extensive comments about his marriage to a wealthy woman. McCain also divorced a first wife to marry a wealthy woman, with whom he committed adultery by the way, and his lived a life of luxury. Where are the right wing pundits now? I included the statements in this post for easy reference. The right and men who live off their second wives' inherited wealth What's most notable about John McCain's confusion over the number of homes he owns isn't merely that it demonstrates that, after running his campaign based on depicting Barack Obama as an out-of-touch elitist and himself as the all-American Everyman, McCain lives a life that is about as far removed from the Average American as one can get, and has done so for decades. What's notable is how McCain was able to live that way. McCain himself isn't actually rich. He just lives off the inherited wealth of his much younger former mistress and now-second-wife -- for whom he dumped his older and disfigured first wife -- and who then used her family's money to fund McCain's political career and keep him living in extreme luxury (after insisting that he sign a prenuptial agreement, which would make McCain the first U.S. President to have one). In 2004, numerous leading right-wing pundits had many things to say about men who do that: Joseph Farah, World Net Daily, "President Gigolo?": But if there is one characteristic of Kerry's life that should disqualify him absolutely as a candidate for president, it is the fact that he has sought out millionaire wives to take care of him. Not to put too fine a point on it, he's a serial gigolo. Let me ask you this: How many single women do you know worth a hundred million dollars or more? . . . After raising children with her, Kerry sought and received an annulment of that long-term marriage. Then he married Teresa Heinz Kerry, the widow of a Senate colleague five years his senior. She is worth approximately $500 million. Is marrying well good preparation for serving as the president of the United States? . . . . He's always had a net underneath him throughout his political career -- in his case, a net woven of homespun 24K gold. And, once again, as Boteach points out, his second wife, Teresa made him sign a prenuptial agreement when they were wed: "Which begs the question: If his own wife doesn't trust him with her money, why should we trust him with ours?" Teresa Heinz Kerry is not sure about her husband's character. Are you? Rush Limbaugh, throughout 2004: I mean, [Kerry]'s been there, but he's basically a skirt-chaser, folks. He's a gigolo. . . .Kerry is cheap. Most gigolos are. I mean -- I think it -- I think it goes with the, with the definition. . . .[W]hat do you consider a fair wage? John Kerry considers a fair wage a wife with 500 million. So, he had to find a company that had one. Well, there aren't too many of these companies that have little heiresses running around that are single, have 500 million that some guy can marry into. . . .Because see, Al Gore's daddy was a senator and Al Gore's daddy worked his way up from wealth and power to wealth and power. I mean, he got more of it than anybody ever dreamed of for having as little to go on. I mean, he's one of those old boys. You know how that worked back then. Then John Kerry's daddy is his wives. (laughter) I mean, he's a gigolo. Everybody knows this. There's nobody in our party really has much respect for this guy and you can see it last night, but I can't say that. I mean, you got sugar daddy wife back then. You got sugar daddy wife now. He worked his way up from a blue blood to a platinum American Express card, and it doesn't have his name on it. Knight Ridder, October 30, 2004: In Kissimmee, Fla., when Cheney brought up Kerry's name, a listener shouted, "He's a gigolo!" Cheney's response: "Ahhh, I'm not sure. I got to concentrate here on my work." Hannity & Colmes, Jan. 24, 2004: ANN COULTER: John Kerry can't really speak to the middle class tax cuts, inasmuch as he is ... SEAN HANNITY: Yes. ANN COULTER: ... a kept man. He lives off the money made by other men and left to their daughters or wives. Good Morning America, October 5, 2004: CHARLES GIBSON: In going, in going through the book, John Kerry. You refer to him as a gigolo, the male Anna Nicole Smith . . . . What does that achieve, Ann? ANN COULTER: Well, okay, then I don't want to hear him talk about a middle class tax cut when he has made his living living off rich women. I mean, it is simply a fact that he has married two heiresses. His specialty in life, I mean, if he has an economic plan, I think the one I'd like to hear about is how to snooker millionairesses into marrying me and living off them. I mean, that is not an, a, a trivial point. New York Times, March 14, 2004: Comedians have tried the Rich Guy persona along with a variation of the Gold Digger, which Jay Leno used in explaining how Mr. Kerry would eliminate the federal deficit: "He said all we have to do is find a really rich country like Switzerland and marry it." Rush Limbaugh Online, "John Kerry's Resume": [Kerry] has lived the life of a millionaire living off the inherited wealth of his two wives. As an Ivy League educated millionaire who did not have to work for his fortune, Mr. Kerry never had to worry about the money he earned, the taxes he paid, or the programs he and Ted Kennedy forced the rest of us to pay for. . . . Mr. Kerry Heinz is not effected (sic) when these neighborhoods are destroyed and working class families lose the largest asset in their retirement plans -- their home's value. Rabbi Smuley Boteach, World Net Daily, May 25, 2004: Now, having a wife who provides you with a private jet and eight multimillion-dollar vacation homes provides for a comfortable life. But is this the right preparation for becoming president? . . . To be sure, that does not mean Kerry never did an honest day's work in his life. On the contrary, he was a successful prosecutor, lieutenant governor and distinguished senator. But even while he did these jobs, his wives' wealth always gave him a safety net. He was going to be taken care of whether he succeeded professionally or not. . . . Whether Kerry wins or loses the presidency, he will still be living like a king. For most people, that would be a blessing. But for someone who wants to be the president of the United States, having such a significant fallback position is actually a curse. Alas, there is yet one other important consideration that should get us all thinking. Before they married, Teresa Heinz made John Kerry sign a prenuptial agreement. Which begs the question: If his own wife doesn't trust him with her money, why should we trust him with ours? Taki Theodoracopulos, American Conservative, May 24, 2004: If John Kerry wins in November, he will be the premiere president of this great country of ours to be also a gigolo. The dictionary defines "gigolo" as a man supported by a woman in return for his sexual attentions and companionship. It might sound rough for John Kerry, but it's right to the point. Let’s face it. The 44th president (maybe) is as close to a gigolo as I can think of, and I have known many. John F. Cullinan, National Review, July 15, 2004: To the mayor's ill-considered suggestion that commuters simply work from home, take vacation (on Menino's schedule) or just lighten up, the Boston Herald tartly responded with an editorial aptly headlined DNC to commuters: shut up, stay home. Howie Carr, the most irreverent local political columnist [who routinely referred to Kerry as "Gigolo John" and "Senator Gigolo"], greeted last week's addition of Sen. John Edwards to the Democratic ticket with this puzzler: "For this dynamic duo" — helpfully identified as "the gigolo and the ambulance chaser" — "all of Boston is to be placed under house arrest for four days later this month? Michelle Malkin, "Limericks for John Kerry," July 24, 2007: Lucianne’s rhyming readers have responded with their own verses. A sample: There once was a phony named Jawn Who almost sailed in on a con He thought he was shifty But got beached by the Swifty Now lives as the Gigolo Mon Somehow, the deep stupidity of our political discourse actually manages to escalate during presidential campaigns, becoming even more vapid and idiotic than normal. But, as I argued continuously when I did my book tour in April and May for Great American Hypocrites, this is the kind of campaign the GOP runs every election and in which they specialize, and there are only two options for Democrats in response: (1) purport to "rise above it" and thus ensure that they get slaughtered in a one-sided, one-way War of Personality Demonization which renders issues irrelevant (hence: the all-American Everyman War Hero versus the rich, out-of-touch, effete elitist), or (2) attack the GOP candidate using the same lowly character themes in order to neutralize the attacks and prevent the election from being decided on these grounds. It's good to see the Obama campaign, finally, engaging these issues aggressively. As I wrote in my book: The reason why this has worked is that there are almost never any attacks on these myths, no aggressive examination of the real lives of these leaders. Critics of Republicans shy away from these themes. There is a squeamishness to use their own weapons against them. . . . It needs to be shoved into the media's faces and into our public discourse how false and deceitful and artificial are these "Republican Values" and personality attributes that they concoct for themselves. To do that, the most prominent right-wing political leaders need to be put under a microscope -- their actual lives and beliefs -- to show how lacking they really are in the virtues they claim to exude and revere. There needs to be a lot more focus of this sort on John McCain's "character," given that, from now until November, no matter what Obama does, the Rovian disciples managing John McCain's candidacy will ensure his campaign is about little other than these sorts of slimy, personality-based, Freak Show attacks on Obama. It's what the GOP does and it's what the media is capable of disseminating. -- Glenn Greenwald Lynann, Interesting. I usually think about the 'Swift Boat' attacks on Kerry in the last election. The news media has given, and still gives John McCain a pass when it comes to his character. Maybe because he's considered by many to be a 'war hero'. But perhaps closer attention should be paid to McCain's character (or lack thereof). |
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Democracy is when the indigent, and not the men of property, are the rulers. Aristotle Communism is for suck ass losers who have no balls and have an insatiable desire for someone to replace their mommy. Zapchaser And communisim amazingly is working far better then the "democracy" we have, think if Russia and China were to join hands...what fun that would be for the "democrats". Face it, every political face has some sort of rotten background. Democrats have money issues at times and republicans...well they have slightly larger money issues...most of the time...last 8 years as a matter of fact... No...communism never worked for the people. It ALWAYS leads to tryanny & more death to people than anything compared. It's called ACCOUNTBILITY...CHECKS & BALANCES...which goes right out the window. How much tyranny and death has occurred under the Bush Administration? Um, let's see: Thousands of Iraqi women and children killed or horribly maimed in the initial attack on Baghdad and other attacks. Who cares about them, right? Secret prisons with torture held in other countries so the United States can keep it's hands clean. Remember Pontius Pilate? Thousands of U.S. troops dead in a horribly mismanaged war. How's your kid? Many lies and deceptions by the Executive Branch. Wouldn't it be nice to have a President who told the truth? |
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So, Obama goes for Biden and the right pisses and moans that that choice does not represent change. Had he gone with someone outside Washington I am sure the moaning would have been that Obama and Johnny Comelately were not experienced enough to hold the offices of President and Vice-President.
No matter what Obama's pick the attacks were written and ready to go. Nothing surprising in that. Biden has a solid background, extensive foreign policy experience and the balls to take on all comers. He was not born with a silver spoon to a political family. He is intelligent and committed to public service. I don't agree with all his positions especially in regard to the internet and some privacy issues. Random Venting... I loved McCain's response the other day when the issue of his seven houses came up. Some reporter said something about chairs and kitchen tables. McCain's response loosely quoting "I spent five years without a chair or table" Enough is enough. When anyone questions or criticizes McCain all we hear about his sacrifices during his service but no real answers. He married money and lives in opulent homes and inside the beltway. He has little idea what life is like for the average citizen. This is a man who admits he knows little about the economy, doesn't know how much a gallon of gas costs, thinks middle class is 5mil a year, and spends $200,000.00 a year on household staff. The most objectionable stance of his to me is his flag waving I am a vet horse**** out of one side of his mouth while his voting record on veterans issues is crap. He has denied vets educational benefits and medical care. Several leading veterans groups have come out against McCain because of his voting record on their issues. |
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Some people would be better to '... turn their keyboards 7 times, before typing such 'loud' inept insinuations as 'Representative Rebublic', somehow isn't a form of democracy. As such, it is perfectly accurate to refer to the 'representative repubublic' system of governement of the USA, as a 'democracy'. For those attempting to spread the kind of semantics 'affront', insinuating that the USA is not a democracy, and doing it in a rude, and condescending intimidation burst, you are politely asked to go wipe the egg off your faces!!! ... and to make sure you hit the shower, here are the different forms which DEMOCRACY can take: Representative (Example: FRANCE AND USA: REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLICS) Representative democracy involves the selection of government officials by the people being represented. The most common mechanisms involve election of the candidate with a majority or a plurality of the votes. Representatives may be elected or become diplomatic representatives by a particular district (or constituency), or represent the entire electorate proportionally proportional systems, with some using a combination of the two. Some representative democracies also incorporate elements of direct democracy, such as referendums. A characteristic of representative democracy is that while the representatives are elected by the people to act in their interest, they retain the freedom to exercise their own judgment as how best to do so. Parliamentary democracy : (Great-Britain and most Commonwealth nations) Parliamentary democracy where government is appointed by parliamentary representatives as opposed to a 'presidential rule' by decree dictatorship. Under a parliamentary democracy, government is exercised by delegation to an executive ministry and subject to ongoing review, checks and balances by the legislative parliament elected by the people. Liberal democracy A Liberal democracy is a representative democracy in which the ability of the elected representatives to exercise decision-making power is subject to the rule of law, and usually moderated by a constitution that emphasizes the protection of the rights and freedoms of individuals, and which places constraints on the leaders and on the extent to which the will of the majority can be exercised against the rights of minorities (see civil liberties). Direct Democracy Direct democracy is a political system where the citizens participate in the decision-making personally, contrary to relying on intermediaries or representatives. The supporters of direct democracy argue that democracy is more than merely a procedural issue (i.e., voting).[28] Most direct democracies to date have been weak forms, relatively small communities, usually city-states. However, some see the extensive use of referendums, as in California, as akin to direct democracy in a very large polity with more than 20 million in California, 1898-1998 (2000) (ISBN 0-8047-3821-1). In Switzerland, five million voters decide on national referendums and initiatives two to four times a year; direct democratic instruments are also well established at the cantonal and communal level. Vermont towns have been known for their yearly town meetings, held every March to decide on local issues. Socialist Democracy Socialist thought has several different views on democracy. Social democracy, democratic socialism, and the dictatorship of the proletariat (usually exercised through Soviet democracy) are some examples. Many democratic socialists and social democrats believe in a form of participatory democracy and workplace democracy combined with a representative democracy. Within Marxist orthodoxy there is a hostility to what is commonly called "liberal democracy", which they simply refer to as parliamentary democracy because of its often centralized nature. Because of their desire to eliminate the political elitism they see in capitalism, Marxists, Leninists and Trotskyists believe in direct democracy implemented though a system of communes (which are sometimes called soviets). This system ultimately manifests itself as council democracy and begins with workplace democracy. (See Democracy in Marxism) Anarchist Democracy The only form of democracy considered acceptable to many anarchists is direct democracy. Some anarchists oppose direct democracy while others favour it. Pierre-Joseph Proudhon argued that the only acceptable form of direct democracy is one in which it is recognized that majority decisions are not binding on the minority, even when unanimous.[29] However, anarcho-communist Murray Bookchin criticized individualist anarchists for opposing democracy,[30] and says "majority rule" is consistent with anarchism.[31] Some anarcho-communists oppose the majoritarian nature of direct democracy, feeling that it can impede individual liberty and opt in favour of a non-majoritarian form of consensus democracy, similar to Proudhon's position on direct democracy.[32] Iroquois Democracy Iroquois society had a form of participatory democracy and representative democracy.[33] Iroquois government and law was discussed by Benjamin Franklin[33] and Thomas Jefferson.[34] Because of this, some scholars regard it to have influenced the formation of American representative democracy.[34] However scholars who reject multiculturalism disagree that the influence existed or was of any great importance.[35] Sortition Sometimes called "democracy without elections", sortition is the process of choosing decision makers via a random process. The intention is that those chosen will be representative of the opinions and interests of the people at large, and be more fair and impartial than an elected official. The technique was in widespread use in Athenian Democracy and is still used in modern jury selection. It is not universally agreed that sortition should be considered "democracy" due to the lack of actual elections[citation needed]. Consensus democracy Consensus democracy requires varying degrees of consensus rather than just a mere democratic majority. It typically attempts to protect minority rights from domination by majority rule. Interactive Democracy Interactive Democracy seeks to utilise information technology to involve voters in law making. It provides a system for proposing new laws, prioritising proposals, clarifying them through parliament and validating them through referendum. You truly are becoming my favorite 'overly suntanned around the neck' Texan 'Cowboy'. Your confused way with words, and simple concepts, are worthy of the most gravity defying texan rodeos!!! Rather primitive an not too edifying, but how entertaining! Now let's take a look at your 'cowhopping' statements: Yes, while it is true that a representative republic is a form of democracy, it is not a democracy in total as it is often inaccurately described. I will not blather on as you have in your attempt to make gold from straw but instead I will simply state that we are a REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC and not a Democracy. I have set-up a special audience with your president. He can't wait to hear you say it straight to his face that the US IS NOT A DEMOCRACY. I believe he has a little trip in mind for you. Not only did the poor man throw your country into an illegal war in Iraq, but Bush's last resort lame excuse to justify his illegal action was '... to bring democracy to Iraq...'. Now even that, according to your most enlightened opinion, would be illegitimate!!! How can the USA bring democracy to Iraq, when it is not one to start with. A shovel will not do it here, neck suntanned cowboy! As for this amazingly rural and shortminded comment, ... And if you would kindly never use the US and the French (Ooh la la! spineless she-males) flag waving surrender monkeys in the same body of text...... that would be great. ... no way anyone could possibly hold it against you to have no clue about the history and origins of your own country 'cowhoppingboy'. Being a Frenchie I am shocked that you can even spell shower. You must have found it on Wiki? Those would be some of the benefits of opening oneself to the rest of the world. I realize it comes across as quite a 'douche' to you, and most relatives of your 'large' family |
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Democracy is when the indigent, and not the men of property, are the rulers. Aristotle Communism is for suck ass losers who have no balls and have an insatiable desire for someone to replace their mommy. Zapchaser And communisim amazingly is working far better then the "democracy" we have, think if Russia and China were to join hands...what fun that would be for the "democrats". Face it, every political face has some sort of rotten background. Democrats have money issues at times and republicans...well they have slightly larger money issues...most of the time...last 8 years as a matter of fact... Yes so well, China only forcefully displaced 1.5 million of its citizens to prepare for the olympics. Why should the government care if they destroy their citizens homes and businesses. They don't care. That is why they are communist pigs. Yup. How many things in your shanty have MADE IN CHINA stamped on them? If you were working for five bucks per week someone would be there to buy your crap and then b!tch about you too. As long as there is a market for a particular product there will be someone to fill that need. Although your minimal knowledge of the business world may seem cute coming from a high school girl, in your case it is not. Perhaps you should read beyond the header before you cut and paste your dribble? That would be nice. A two way conversation with BOTH parties being knowledgeable of the subject is much more interesting. |
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Democracy is when the indigent, and not the men of property, are the rulers. Aristotle Communism is for suck ass losers who have no balls and have an insatiable desire for someone to replace their mommy. Zapchaser And communisim amazingly is working far better then the "democracy" we have, think if Russia and China were to join hands...what fun that would be for the "democrats". Face it, every political face has some sort of rotten background. Democrats have money issues at times and republicans...well they have slightly larger money issues...most of the time...last 8 years as a matter of fact... Yes so well, China only forcefully displaced 1.5 million of its citizens to prepare for the olympics. Why should the government care if they destroy their citizens homes and businesses. They don't care. That is why they are communist pigs. Yup. How many things in your shanty have MADE IN CHINA stamped on them? If you were working for five bucks per week someone would be there to buy your crap and then b!tch about you too. As long as there is a market for a particular product there will be someone to fill that need. Although your minimal knowledge of the business world may seem cute coming from a high school girl, in your case it is not. Perhaps you should read beyond the header before you cut and paste your dribble? That would be nice. A two way conversation with BOTH parties being knowledgeable of the subject is much more interesting. Your second sentence says it all. As I stated, you should study business and economics. It would help you in understanding what you are talking about. Do you want to spend the next few weeks being instructed in basic economics? Please find someone who has the time to teach you. You throw out "economic sanctions" as a buzz word not comprehending its meaning let alone the effect it has on our economy as well. How about raising tariffs on Chinese imports? Do we not trade with China? Won't they raise their tariffs in turn? There will still be a market for the higher priced Chinese goods on the store shelves here but what do you think will happen to the goods we export to China when they are priced out of their market? Like I said, study grasshoppa. |
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Democracy is when the indigent, and not the men of property, are the rulers. Aristotle Communism is for suck ass losers who have no balls and have an insatiable desire for someone to replace their mommy. Zapchaser And communisim amazingly is working far better then the "democracy" we have, think if Russia and China were to join hands...what fun that would be for the "democrats". Face it, every political face has some sort of rotten background. Democrats have money issues at times and republicans...well they have slightly larger money issues...most of the time...last 8 years as a matter of fact... Yes so well, China only forcefully displaced 1.5 million of its citizens to prepare for the olympics. Why should the government care if they destroy their citizens homes and businesses. They don't care. That is why they are communist pigs. Yup. How many things in your shanty have MADE IN CHINA stamped on them? If you were working for five bucks per week someone would be there to buy your crap and then b!tch about you too. As long as there is a market for a particular product there will be someone to fill that need. Although your minimal knowledge of the business world may seem cute coming from a high school girl, in your case it is not. Perhaps you should read beyond the header before you cut and paste your dribble? That would be nice. A two way conversation with BOTH parties being knowledgeable of the subject is much more interesting. Your second sentence says it all. As I stated, you should study business and economics. It would help you in understanding what you are talking about. Do you want to spend the next few weeks being instructed in basic economics? Please find someone who has the time to teach you. You throw out "economic sanctions" as a buzz word not comprehending its meaning let alone the effect it has on our economy as well. How about raising tariffs on Chinese imports? Do we not trade with China? Won't they raise their tariffs in turn? There will still be a market for the higher priced Chinese goods on the store shelves here but what do you think will happen to the goods we export to China when they are priced out of their market? Like I said, study grasshoppa. |
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Democracy is when the indigent, and not the men of property, are the rulers. Aristotle Communism is for suck ass losers who have no balls and have an insatiable desire for someone to replace their mommy. Zapchaser And communisim amazingly is working far better then the "democracy" we have, think if Russia and China were to join hands...what fun that would be for the "democrats". Face it, every political face has some sort of rotten background. Democrats have money issues at times and republicans...well they have slightly larger money issues...most of the time...last 8 years as a matter of fact... Yes so well, China only forcefully displaced 1.5 million of its citizens to prepare for the olympics. Why should the government care if they destroy their citizens homes and businesses. They don't care. That is why they are communist pigs. Yup. How many things in your shanty have MADE IN CHINA stamped on them? If you were working for five bucks per week someone would be there to buy your crap and then b!tch about you too. As long as there is a market for a particular product there will be someone to fill that need. Although your minimal knowledge of the business world may seem cute coming from a high school girl, in your case it is not. Perhaps you should read beyond the header before you cut and paste your dribble? That would be nice. A two way conversation with BOTH parties being knowledgeable of the subject is much more interesting. Your second sentence says it all. As I stated, you should study business and economics. It would help you in understanding what you are talking about. Do you want to spend the next few weeks being instructed in basic economics? Please find someone who has the time to teach you. You throw out "economic sanctions" as a buzz word not comprehending its meaning let alone the effect it has on our economy as well. How about raising tariffs on Chinese imports? Do we not trade with China? Won't they raise their tariffs in turn? There will still be a market for the higher priced Chinese goods on the store shelves here but what do you think will happen to the goods we export to China when they are priced out of their market? Like I said, study grasshoppa. I am not disagreeing with you. I understand your point and I agree but in this "global marketplace" we are intertwined with so many countries in so many ways. Every action causes a reaction. It all boils down to what Americans or many other countries for that matter, are willing to give up to make a statement such as yours. Canada? Europe? If the US is the one who takes the stand alone then we need to realize that it will surely hurt us more than it does them to simply make a statement that will fall on deaf ears in China. IMO China's political and social changes will come via their youth. Remember Tianeman Square? Yup. And so do the youth who are older now and know of the cover-up. We can't effect lasting change but they will and currently are but in that archaic regime it will take time and sadly, a lot more bloodshed than Tianeman Square. Gotta go, I am an evil business owner that has work to do at 7:45pm and won't get paid for. To add a quick note, I see your hatred for America but don't understand why you don't bash France (cause they are losers and need to be bashed. hee hee), Canada, Europe, South Africa, etc., etc., etc., who are all trade partners with China and have MANY businesses there. Or did you think it was only us? |
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Democracy is when the indigent, and not the men of property, are the rulers. Aristotle Communism is for suck ass losers who have no balls and have an insatiable desire for someone to replace their mommy. Zapchaser And communisim amazingly is working far better then the "democracy" we have, think if Russia and China were to join hands...what fun that would be for the "democrats". Face it, every political face has some sort of rotten background. Democrats have money issues at times and republicans...well they have slightly larger money issues...most of the time...last 8 years as a matter of fact... Yes so well, China only forcefully displaced 1.5 million of its citizens to prepare for the olympics. Why should the government care if they destroy their citizens homes and businesses. They don't care. That is why they are communist pigs. Yup. How many things in your shanty have MADE IN CHINA stamped on them? If you were working for five bucks per week someone would be there to buy your crap and then b!tch about you too. As long as there is a market for a particular product there will be someone to fill that need. Although your minimal knowledge of the business world may seem cute coming from a high school girl, in your case it is not. Perhaps you should read beyond the header before you cut and paste your dribble? That would be nice. A two way conversation with BOTH parties being knowledgeable of the subject is much more interesting. Your second sentence says it all. As I stated, you should study business and economics. It would help you in understanding what you are talking about. Do you want to spend the next few weeks being instructed in basic economics? Please find someone who has the time to teach you. You throw out "economic sanctions" as a buzz word not comprehending its meaning let alone the effect it has on our economy as well. How about raising tariffs on Chinese imports? Do we not trade with China? Won't they raise their tariffs in turn? There will still be a market for the higher priced Chinese goods on the store shelves here but what do you think will happen to the goods we export to China when they are priced out of their market? Like I said, study grasshoppa. I am not disagreeing with you. I understand your point and I agree but in this "global marketplace" we are intertwined with so many countries in so many ways. Every action causes a reaction. It all boils down to what Americans or many other countries for that matter, are willing to give up to make a statement such as yours. Canada? Europe? If the US is the one who takes the stand alone then we need to realize that it will surely hurt us more than it does them to simply make a statement that will fall on deaf ears in China. IMO China's political and social changes will come via their youth. Remember Tianeman Square? Yup. And so do the youth who are older now and know of the cover-up. We can't effect lasting change but they will and currently are but in that archaic regime it will take time and sadly, a lot more bloodshed than Tianeman Square. Gotta go, I am an evil business owner that has work to do at 7:45pm and won't get paid for. To add a quick note, I see your hatred for America but don't understand why you don't bash France (cause they are losers and need to be bashed. hee hee), Canada, Europe, South Africa, etc., etc., etc., who are all trade partners with China and have MANY businesses there. Or did you think it was only us? |
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Hell, if you weren't "gunho for the war" baby shrub said " you are the enemy". Rightwing hatemongering is legend and this case was no different.
Any person who comes out and says publically that they do not have their heads stuck squarely up Bush's butt is said to "hate America". Hatemongering at it's best. Hatemongering and warmongering, two things this country should be sooooooo sick of they can't hardly stand it. That is how I know anyone who votes for McCain is either prejudice or not too high on the evolutionary table because he is more of the same hatemongering and warmongering of the past eight years. JMOOC |
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Democracy is when the indigent, and not the men of property, are the rulers. Aristotle Communism is for suck ass losers who have no balls and have an insatiable desire for someone to replace their mommy. Zapchaser And communisim amazingly is working far better then the "democracy" we have, think if Russia and China were to join hands...what fun that would be for the "democrats". Face it, every political face has some sort of rotten background. Democrats have money issues at times and republicans...well they have slightly larger money issues...most of the time...last 8 years as a matter of fact... Yes so well, China only forcefully displaced 1.5 million of its citizens to prepare for the olympics. Why should the government care if they destroy their citizens homes and businesses. They don't care. That is why they are communist pigs. Yup. How many things in your shanty have MADE IN CHINA stamped on them? If you were working for five bucks per week someone would be there to buy your crap and then b!tch about you too. As long as there is a market for a particular product there will be someone to fill that need. Although your minimal knowledge of the business world may seem cute coming from a high school girl, in your case it is not. Perhaps you should read beyond the header before you cut and paste your dribble? That would be nice. A two way conversation with BOTH parties being knowledgeable of the subject is much more interesting. Your second sentence says it all. As I stated, you should study business and economics. It would help you in understanding what you are talking about. Do you want to spend the next few weeks being instructed in basic economics? Please find someone who has the time to teach you. You throw out "economic sanctions" as a buzz word not comprehending its meaning let alone the effect it has on our economy as well. How about raising tariffs on Chinese imports? Do we not trade with China? Won't they raise their tariffs in turn? There will still be a market for the higher priced Chinese goods on the store shelves here but what do you think will happen to the goods we export to China when they are priced out of their market? Like I said, study grasshoppa. I am not disagreeing with you. I understand your point and I agree but in this "global marketplace" we are intertwined with so many countries in so many ways. Every action causes a reaction. It all boils down to what Americans or many other countries for that matter, are willing to give up to make a statement such as yours. Canada? Europe? If the US is the one who takes the stand alone then we need to realize that it will surely hurt us more than it does them to simply make a statement that will fall on deaf ears in China. IMO China's political and social changes will come via their youth. Remember Tianeman Square? Yup. And so do the youth who are older now and know of the cover-up. We can't effect lasting change but they will and currently are but in that archaic regime it will take time and sadly, a lot more bloodshed than Tianeman Square. Gotta go, I am an evil business owner that has work to do at 7:45pm and won't get paid for. To add a quick note, I see your hatred for America but don't understand why you don't bash France (cause they are losers and need to be bashed. hee hee), Canada, Europe, South Africa, etc., etc., etc., who are all trade partners with China and have MANY businesses there. Or did you think it was only us? And all of those people listed in the OP have WHAT to do with business in China? Let's talk about toilet paper. Here it goes: Toilet paper. Now you can take that one and link it some way to your usual rhetorical drivel. Knock yourself out. PLEASE. |
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Hell, if you weren't "gunho for the war" baby shrub said " you are the enemy". Rightwing hatemongering is legend and this case was no different. Any person who comes out and says publically that they do not have their heads stuck squarely up Bush's butt is said to "hate America". Hatemongering at it's best. Hatemongering and warmongering, two things this country should be sooooooo sick of they can't hardly stand it. That is how I know anyone who votes for McCain is either prejudice or not too high on the evolutionary table because he is more of the same hatemongering and warmongering of the past eight years. JMOOC In YOUR narrow minded view perhaps but you are wrong. I do not fall into your reverse biased classification as many do not. You are an extremest who gets on a dating site and argues your extremist views with opposing extremists. Check your own hatred. You are likely to be sitting there burning with rage by reading this. Sad. Very sad. The hypocrisy is thick here. Quit bellering jibberish and get out and do something good for your fellow countrymen. Better yet, get out there and stump for yourself. The nation is bigger than JSH. Heck, who knows? you might find a few hundred people that will vote for you. At any rate you will at least walk away with a warm fuzzy. |
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Hell, if you weren't "gunho for the war" baby shrub said " you are the enemy". Rightwing hatemongering is legend and this case was no different. Any person who comes out and says publically that they do not have their heads stuck squarely up Bush's butt is said to "hate America". Hatemongering at it's best. Hatemongering and warmongering, two things this country should be sooooooo sick of they can't hardly stand it. That is how I know anyone who votes for McCain is either prejudice or not too high on the evolutionary table because he is more of the same hatemongering and warmongering of the past eight years. JMOOC In YOUR narrow minded view perhaps but you are wrong. I do not fall into your reverse biased classification as many do not. You are an extremest who gets on a dating site and argues your extremist views with opposing extremists. Check your own hatred. You are likely to be sitting there burning with rage by reading this. Sad. Very sad. The hypocrisy is thick here. Quit bellering jibberish and get out and do something good for your fellow countrymen. Better yet, get out there and stump for yourself. The nation is bigger than JSH. Heck, who knows? you might find a few hundred people that will vote for you. At any rate you will at least walk away with a warm fuzzy. |
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My comments to you, dear friend voileazur You truly are becoming my favorite 'overly suntanned around the neck' Texan 'Cowboy'. In the first place, try Minnesota. Check the map. Secondly- perhaps the reason you can’t get a tan is due to the lack of lighting in the gay peep shows you frequent when you have a hankerin’ for smoking kielbasa? Get out more often. It will help shade the wrinkles. Your confused way with words, and simple concepts, are worthy of the most gravity defying texan rodeos!!! Quite the opposite from Texas, here in Minnesota, rodeo’s are for men who fancy men. Personally I find women to be my area of interest so you will have to tell me more about the rodeo thing. Rather primitive an not too edifying, but how entertaining! Do you mind if I go through your flag waving surrender monkey taunting and correct your “advanced” spelling errors? Now let's take a look at your 'cowhopping' statements: I have heard of cow tipping but never cow hopping. But hey, whatever gets you a date, eh? Yes, while it is true that a representative republic is a form of democracy, it is not a democracy in total as it is often inaccurately described. I will not blather on as you have in your attempt to make gold from straw but instead I will simply state that we are a REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC and not a Democracy. I have set-up a special audience with your president. You couldn’t set a date up for yourself, much less the president. He can't wait to hear you say it straight to his face that the US IS NOT A DEMOCRACY. I believe he has a little trip in mind for you. The little voice in your head is speaking to you again? Let me call your nurse. It will be fine as soon as you take the little yellow pill. Crayon time is over for you anyway. Not only did the poor man throw your country into an illegal war in Iraq, but Bush's last resort lame excuse to justify his illegal action was '... to bring democracy to Iraq...'. Aren’t you Canadian? All I hear from you is Charlie Brown’s teacher. Wah waaaaah? Wah waaaaaah waaah wah. Do you see anyone discussing Canadian politics on this site? Hmmmm, wonder why that is? NOBODY CARES! Now even that, according to your most enlightened opinion, would be illegitimate!!! How can the USA bring democracy to Iraq, when it is not one to start with. Now who is splitting hairs FWSM? A shovel will not do it here, neck suntanned cowboy! There you go again with the cowboy crap! Look, it might get you a woody to fantasize about me in a cowboy costume but like I said, I like boobs and not man boobs. Lay off the cheese and wine and get to the gym. Please stop hitting on me. It might be your thing but I am sorry to let you down. Women tend to lean toward strong muscular attractive men just as gay guys do don’t they? Even the spindliest whiny voiced self infatuated self proclaimed intellectual can attract a mate by regular exercise. As for this amazingly rural and shortminded comment, ... And if you would kindly never use the US and the French (Ooh la la! spineless she-males) flag waving surrender monkeys in the same body of text...... that would be great. ... no way anyone could possibly hold it against you to have no clue about the history and origins of your own country 'cowhoppingboy'. Keep this up and I am going to be forced to report you for sexual harassment! Being a Frenchie I am shocked that you can even spell shower. You must have found it on Wiki? Those would be some of the benefits of opening oneself to the rest of the world. I realize it comes across as quite a 'douche' to you, and most relatives of your 'large' family Ah, there you go assuming again. I have been to twenty countries. I have been around the world twice. I still think that France sucks and the French are rude puss!es. Guess what? Most of the world shares my sentiment…….. because it is true. Care for some fromunda cheese? Should you see the humor in this you will surely have stepped away from YOUR large family. I don't believe a word you say. With that neckburn mentality, you can only live in rural Texas. As for the 'cow' thing, while you would love to show in a real 'horse rodeos', they only let you enter 'cowhopping' wednesday night fillers!!! You don't place so well, but hell, the organizers need 'fillers'. As for this bit about traveling around the world, TWICE!!! Try again. You might have cut out pictures from the local library, toured with the military maybe, but you haven't traveled one bit. Your discourse betrays you. As for that sunburn around your neck (not a tan by any stretch of any redneck's imagination), cover it up with pig ****. It will cover-up the 'red', and yet the odour will make it such that your 'large and loving' family won't disown you. By the way, I'll be in Texas next week. Any tickets left for that Wednesday night 'cowhopping' showdown of yours!!! All kidding apart, I wouldn't mind helping you out. I might not actually show-up for the 'cowhopping', but I'd still buy a few tickets. Anything to help. |
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