Topic: Question - regarding trials
Lynann's photo
Wed 08/13/08 11:13 AM
The answer is, "That depends..."

Right now if you are arrested under some current federal laws you can be held, indefinitely, without charge.

I'd suggest that instead of listening to all of us you do some research on-line or at the library to help you understand the legal process. Find Law and The Library of Congress both have good sites for the sort of information you seek.

lilith401's photo
Wed 08/13/08 11:15 AM
Not much I wouldn't do for you, Fran. These questions are right up my alley, it was a pleasure to answer them.

For fun, re-read The Right to Kill. There is TREMENDOUS legal information in there. Not a Florida setting, but southern.

franshade's photo
Wed 08/13/08 11:18 AM

The answer is, "That depends..."

Right now if you are arrested under some current federal laws you can be held, indefinitely, without charge.

I'd suggest that instead of listening to all of us you do some research on-line or at the library to help you understand the legal process. Find Law and The Library of Congress both have good sites for the sort of information you seek.


That makes sense, conversation I overheard got me curious, do know it wasnt a federal offense but it is a felony.

lilith401's photo
Wed 08/13/08 11:20 AM
Watch Fran, Fed laws are WAYYYYYYY different from state stuff. Just as state to state stuff is.

I do believe your questions were at the state level in Florida, so stick with links for that sort of thing.

franshade's photo
Wed 08/13/08 11:37 AM

keep the faith

and my house is your house


be careful may just put it up for sale then :laughing: just kidding




franshade's photo
Wed 08/13/08 11:45 AM
now thats scary scared and all this time I thought you were a nice guy noway



lilith401's photo
Wed 08/13/08 11:49 AM
This thread has taken a terrifying turn.

Lynann's photo
Wed 08/13/08 11:52 AM
Yes it has

franshade's photo
Wed 08/13/08 11:52 AM

This thread has taken a terrifying turn.


ya notice ?

Dragoness's photo
Wed 08/13/08 11:56 AM

Overheard the following:

Everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty.
Everyone has the right to a speedy trial by one's peers.

However this does not apply to all? Is this so?
How long can they keep someone in jail, without a trial? How long is too long? what happens if person incarcerated is found innocent?




This philosophy is how it "is supposed to be". Our government tests this boundary. This administration has basically put this philosophy on the back burner. They believe they are capable of incarcerating anyone be they citizens of this country or not and keep them indefinitely in the name of "Homeland Security". I never thought that homeland security would endanger us, but in this light it can.huh

franshade's photo
Wed 08/13/08 11:58 AM


Overheard the following:

Everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty.
Everyone has the right to a speedy trial by one's peers.

However this does not apply to all? Is this so?
How long can they keep someone in jail, without a trial? How long is too long? what happens if person incarcerated is found innocent?




This philosophy is how it "is supposed to be". Our government tests this boundary. This administration has basically put this philosophy on the back burner. They believe they are capable of incarcerating anyone be they citizens of this country or not and keep them indefinitely in the name of "Homeland Security". I never thought that homeland security would endanger us, but in this light it can.huh


wasnt referring to Homeland Security when I posted, as what I overheard was just regarding a felony charge.

Question remains, how long is too long before the right to a speedy trial.

Lilith shared some sites, I'm going to check out. any others out there?

lilith401's photo
Wed 08/13/08 12:03 PM
http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-857639/Speedy-trial-speedy-games-Florida.html


Dragoness's photo
Wed 08/13/08 12:03 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Wed 08/13/08 12:05 PM



Overheard the following:

Everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty.
Everyone has the right to a speedy trial by one's peers.

However this does not apply to all? Is this so?
How long can they keep someone in jail, without a trial? How long is too long? what happens if person incarcerated is found innocent?




This philosophy is how it "is supposed to be". Our government tests this boundary. This administration has basically put this philosophy on the back burner. They believe they are capable of incarcerating anyone be they citizens of this country or not and keep them indefinitely in the name of "Homeland Security". I never thought that homeland security would endanger us, but in this light it can.huh


wasnt referring to Homeland Security when I posted, as what I overheard was just regarding a felony charge.

Question remains, how long is too long before the right to a speedy trial.

Lilith shared some sites, I'm going to check out. any others out there?


Yes, each state has a different time frame for "speedy" but they do stipulate. You have to remember though that trials have many many levels and different court dates so if a person gets a preliminary court date within the right time and then the following dates are timely they are meeting this rule. The preliminary and trial itself can take years though in some cases.

This is my understanding anyway.

As for being found innocent after this process or during, they had better be glad they are free and move on, there is very little to be done about it legally.

TxsGal3333's photo
Wed 08/13/08 12:07 PM
Just a friendly reminder some how this has gotten offtopic please be considerate and stay on the Topic in hand. I have cleaned up the post that seemed to have ventured off. Please when posting try to stay within the discussion on hand.


Thank You
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lilith401's photo
Wed 08/13/08 12:09 PM
Thanks Kristi~

It was sort of like another dimension.....

Lynann's photo
Wed 08/13/08 12:16 PM
I forgot to add that most states have government web sites that can give you information specific to that states laws regarding the legal process.

An attorney friend once told me the best first answer to any legal question is, "It depends" because not only do laws vary from state to state but each case has unique aspects that affect the process and their outcome.

franshade's photo
Wed 08/13/08 12:16 PM




Overheard the following:

Everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty.
Everyone has the right to a speedy trial by one's peers.

However this does not apply to all? Is this so?
How long can they keep someone in jail, without a trial? How long is too long? what happens if person incarcerated is found innocent?




This philosophy is how it "is supposed to be". Our government tests this boundary. This administration has basically put this philosophy on the back burner. They believe they are capable of incarcerating anyone be they citizens of this country or not and keep them indefinitely in the name of "Homeland Security". I never thought that homeland security would endanger us, but in this light it can.huh


wasnt referring to Homeland Security when I posted, as what I overheard was just regarding a felony charge.

Question remains, how long is too long before the right to a speedy trial.

Lilith shared some sites, I'm going to check out. any others out there?


Yes, each state has a different time frame for "speedy" but they do stipulate. You have to remember though that trials have many many levels and different court dates so if a person gets a preliminary court date within the right time and then the following dates are timely they are meeting this rule. The preliminary and trial itself can take years though in some cases.

This is my understanding anyway.

As for being found innocent after this process or during, they had better be glad they are free and move on, there is very little to be done about it legally.


thanks for your input, makes sense, just guess curiosity got the best of me.

I have checked out the sites Lilith has provided and while I can definitely agree, there are some ruthless criminals, I am truly just seeking opinions and info on the justice end of things.

flowerforyou

franshade's photo
Wed 08/13/08 12:17 PM

Just a friendly reminder some how this has gotten offtopic please be considerate and stay on the Topic in hand. I have cleaned up the post that seemed to have ventured off. Please when posting try to stay within the discussion on hand.


Thank You
Site Mod
Kristi


flowerforyou

Thank you Kristi

franshade's photo
Wed 08/13/08 12:19 PM

I forgot to add that most states have government web sites that can give you information specific to that states laws regarding the legal process.

An attorney friend once told me the best first answer to any legal question is, "It depends" because not only do laws vary from state to state but each case has unique aspects that affect the process and their outcome.


guess I let curiosity get the best of me, but thank you all for responding... I am looking further into gaining a better perspective on the law for no other reason than just to know :smile:


Dragoness's photo
Wed 08/13/08 12:19 PM





Overheard the following:

Everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty.
Everyone has the right to a speedy trial by one's peers.

However this does not apply to all? Is this so?
How long can they keep someone in jail, without a trial? How long is too long? what happens if person incarcerated is found innocent?




This philosophy is how it "is supposed to be". Our government tests this boundary. This administration has basically put this philosophy on the back burner. They believe they are capable of incarcerating anyone be they citizens of this country or not and keep them indefinitely in the name of "Homeland Security". I never thought that homeland security would endanger us, but in this light it can.huh


wasnt referring to Homeland Security when I posted, as what I overheard was just regarding a felony charge.

Question remains, how long is too long before the right to a speedy trial.

Lilith shared some sites, I'm going to check out. any others out there?


Yes, each state has a different time frame for "speedy" but they do stipulate. You have to remember though that trials have many many levels and different court dates so if a person gets a preliminary court date within the right time and then the following dates are timely they are meeting this rule. The preliminary and trial itself can take years though in some cases.

This is my understanding anyway.

As for being found innocent after this process or during, they had better be glad they are free and move on, there is very little to be done about it legally.


thanks for your input, makes sense, just guess curiosity got the best of me.

I have checked out the sites Lilith has provided and while I can definitely agree, there are some ruthless criminals, I am truly just seeking opinions and info on the justice end of things.

flowerforyou


Your welcome, just buzzed through and threw my one cent in on it...lol:wink: bigsmile flowerforyou