There is a reason I believe in the alien angle and how it all fits.

What is an "alien" anyway? The term actually means "non resident" but it is used loosely to mean "extra terrestrials" by most people.

I use the term to describe non-human intelligent life forms.

Non-human intelligent life forms could be fallen angels, messengers of God, extra terrestrials, inner terrestrials, Galaxy aliens, fantasy creatures like fairies or gnomes or big foot or even demons.

They don't have to be from "outer space."

The point is, to believe that nothing like this exists is more difficult than to believe that they do exist.

When you consider the alien angle, a lot of puzzle pieces begin to fit and a lot of questions are answered.

When you take a position that states: "These things I refuse to consider... because they just sound too weird," then you are closing the door to something that might be true.

I always ask why and the alien angle answers many why questions.

Why blood sacrifices?
Who were the Elohim from the sky?
What are UFO's?
Cattle mutilations?
Abductions?
Crop circles?
Why the desire for a master race?
Why track bloodlines?
Who are the ones with royal blood and why do they think they are so much better than common people?
How did mankind evolve so fast into modern society?
Advance technology..
Above top secret operations...
Credible eye witnesses coming out of retirement tell the truth..
Pyramids..
Stone hendge...
Ancient air ports...

Many many others.

JB

All paths lead to their existence...

you dont have to try to convince me baby been involved with this for 48 yrs.
have family that has seen them >> credible witness<<< worked at los alamos and area 51 - they exist!!

you just have to convince everyone else -

I would agree with that. However, I feel that there's a huge difference between closing the door to possibilities and accepting them as proven realities.

Keeping an open mind doesn't mean that a person needs to embrace things as being established truths.

I personally don't feel that the evidence for aliens of any kind is compelling. It certainly isn't compelling to me personally. Most everything on your list can indeed be attributed to human activity IMHO.

Moreover, if there are aliens and I have no direct proof of them myself then what's to gained by believing in them?

I can even give the biblical picture of God the possibility of being true. The only problem is that to do so I must accept that God is both; highly unreasonable, as well as deceitful. What's to gain by believing those things? If our creator truly is like that I'd rather not know about it until I have no other choice in the matter.

Same is probably true of aliens. What's the benefit of believing in something that isn't going to do me any good?

Does it really matter to me whether the people who are controlling the economy and governments of the earth are actual humans or aliens? Either way I'm not in a position to do much about.

A difference that makes no difference is no difference.

Everything is possible.
However, in the same way some claim that the guy nailed to the cross is just a mere crazy man because there is no solid evidence to support his acts and teachings.
I also can say the same about aliens there is no solid evidence to prove their existance other than blurry pictures and the Roswell myth.
Nevertheless, everything is possible. To say that the planet earth is the only living planet within the Universe is to limit God as the director of the vatican's observatory stated.

cult activity


Greek Mythology


secret testing of warfare


hungry people


kidnappers


pranksters ..just ask yourself when were the first crop circles discovered


it's called the pecking order ..to spread one's genes


to learn of one's family history


it's called the social ladder


the same can be said about the society of bees and ants


necessity is the mother off all inventions


done in the interest of national security


credible would have been before his retirement when he had access to supply the direct evidence


all they really were was a burial site


hey people built crazy stuff for example "The Washington Monument"


but no ancient aircraft


now all that is needed is an actual alien

For Abra,

My "belief" in aliens is as always a temporary conclusion. From evidence I have gathered from many sources it actually makes the most sense. I have looked at it absent the alien factor and the whole thing falls apart.

For Funches,
If you knew what I knew you could not possibly explain those things with the short little simplistic answers you give.

For anyone:
I am not out to prove or convince other people that aliens exist. There are many people who spend all their time and lots of money trying to get physical proof of something that is very possibly not physical at all except maybe for a temporary time, as we are dealing with a different dimension or paralell reality.

And yet it is more than "faith." I seriously would rather have proof that they do not exist. (I personally don't like them or their agenda.)

With what I have, I have concluded that they do exist, enough so that I purposely stay out of their way if at all possible by not going to UFO conferences, SETA meetings, or hanging out with people who are repeat abductdees. Also I avoid top secret government people and the CIA which is infiltrated with them IMO. I don't chase UFO sightings either. I have seen a few, but I don't go looking. I did do a few mutilated cow investigations, and that was not done by humans IMO.

JB

I think if it was so.....and they wanted to make a better race that they would make themselves much more known then they do....It doesn't mean that it is not so.......

My dad worked in area 51 and when I was 13 I asked dad if he could tell me if aliens were real.....He looked at me with those wise blue eyes and said, "I could honey, but then I would have to kill you."

deb, my step mom worked at Los Alamo's in 50,51 on the hydrogen bomb, they took her to Area 51 and she saw both the bodies and the space ship, - there is no more credible witness to me than that. she kept that secret til the last year of her life, over 50 yrs, i think she told me because i had asked before what she saw and did and like your dad she would never say - not even about the bomb.but many recently are coming forward with the same info as she - it has to be deb. IMHO

What I would like to know is why are people so afraid to tell the truth of what they have seen?

What is so terrifying about the truth? Have these people's families been threatened? Have they been convinced that it is better that this information not get out? Are they afraid of being made fun of or made to look like a crazy person?

Why do people go along with top secret crap?

Do you know what they are doing in area 51 now? They are using it for a toxic waste dump that is totally illegal but no body can do a darn thing about it because of its top secret status.

People who worked there have died and they were all denied the right to sue for medical damages because of the top secret non existing nature of that place.

This is just wrong. This should not be allowed. Someone is running our government who does not care about human lives.

JB

The truth is that most of the people who work there do not see anything. But they are sworn to secrecy for everything.

This is not a good place to work. Legally the place did not exist. Many people were dieing because of toxic chemicals in that place and they could not get it into court. When they finally did get it into court it was too late, most of them died.

That is a nasty place to work and it is probably being used as a toxic waste dump now. But still it is top secret and not subject to National law.

The aliens are not there anymore.

JB

JB, just ot have clearance there at las alamos, yet alone 51, was of super top secrecy. 51 incident with mom was a fluke there were 11 who came to 51 to be shown new TS equipment that would be installed to use for the HB mfg. process a captain had disregarded orders not to go through the bldg he took them thru, and was actually sent to another low classification area days after it happened according to mom, it was a fluke so to say - they were never meant to see it or them, and were called in by the commander the same day it happened and warned again to never speak about what they had seen. it was a time of real distrust for everyone and security was ultimately high on all aspects of what was going on. mom wasn't brain washed or anything like that - it was her duty she felt, to have kept these things from becoming known as was true for the others for the sake of national security, people then were very high on national duty and security of info falling into enemy hands. there is much more i learned from her but wont discuss here. just wanted to let you or others know - "they are real" even our government knows this!!!

I don't doubt it's true...cmon guys I had a father that spent his life looking at other planets.......He worked for the Air Force and then Nasa....Did all the mariner launches, apollo and the the space shuttle. But as to how much more intelligent....I would think if they were that they wouldn't have to sneak around as much as they do.....and take people at random and put stuff in them.....I would never say never........

I think it's kept a secret for one reason only....as not to cause mass hysteria......I think there was so much hype and what people thought it was. Who knows for sure. But I do know that people went out to Roswell and saw stuff also....

I know with my father everything he did was classified. even from his wife and family...It was just part of what he did. I don't think we had a choice in the matter it was what it was. But I do know that as family we also got to see some pretty amazing stuff that most didn't....Like the space Shuttle, the Stealth Bomber. It took all of my life to understand what amazing things my dad was involved with. I had astronauts to dinner and grew up playing with their kids. I have some awesome stuff my dad left me that no one else has.....kinda cool. I think especially the millitary the secrets were just part of the gig...

I could tell ya who is running it JB....but you would just poo poo it......so why bother.

You know me better than that FC, I don't ever poo poo any information. I evaluate all of it. Never poo poo any of it.

Who is running it? Humans, controlled by other humans who are ultimately controlled by aliens. Most people have no idea who their orders are really coming from. They are trained not to ask questions... ever.

JB

What I don't understand is why you feel it has to be run by aliens?

Do you think humans are incapable of being azzholes?

I've met enough human azzholes in my life to be thoughly convinced that humans are quite capable of making profoundly bad decisions on their own. No need for aliens.

I agree. There are many humans who know about the alien threat and are apposed to doing business with them. There are battles going on in this arena all the time, the problem is that you never know who you are talking to and who's side they are on. Then there is the control of information. There is the "need to know" policy. There is the above black levels of top secret. Several levels above, even the president of the United States. Imagine that, the president not allowed into some top secret places and information.

If that is the case, and I have heard it is, then the President is not at the top then is he?

Who then? The banksters? The money men? Maybe. But who pulls their strings? ....yep... you guessed it. The non-human intelligent life forms.. some call them demons, but they are real creatures.

JB

Alien abductions and UFO sightings run rampant in third world countries and you will never hear about them. Even here in the United States there are many but they are less known these days as the press is more controlled.

Remember the first one that made national headlines? Snippy the horse? After that, there were many more. So many that soon they failed to make the papers. Then there were rumors that the American Military entered into an agreement to allow a certain amount of alien experiments on cattle and they became involved in the cover up of these events. They were not allowed to abduct humans then. Later, humans were being abducted but they had agreed not to kill them, so these humans were dropped off afterwards. Some found themselves naked in the woods with no memory of the event until later. Some never recovered their memory of the events.

Why would our government agree to such things? This is the story. The aliens were about to enter into a military agreement with Russia and give Russia a lot of new technology to fight their enemies (us) in exchange for cooperation.

The United States agreed because they wanted the technology and they wanted the support of the aliens. They were convinced that they had little choice but to cooperate in the effort to deliver the earth into the hands of a one world government to eventually be ruled by alien gods.

Which they have and still do cooperate in this agenda of a one world government and a new world order.

JB

there are many types of abductions taking place...some people do believe these are beings not of human origin, and some believe it's science experiments run by secret leaders above government, and some just think we're testing new technology...

Ever hear of MILAB abductions?...kinda creates a whole new twist to the plot..

but what to believe, who to believe, and does it ultimately make a difference if you believe or not are in question...I guess it totally depends on the person...you're either tuned into this stuff and want to know the truth, what is going on, if anything or nothing at all..or...you're satisfied with your life as is...why complicate a life that is most likely complex enough as it is?

i agree JB,

why would they want to bo know until there was a very good reason to be known?

Look at it this way, if they are controlling thing's behind the scenes so to say, they have better control. If i were an alien which would serve my purposes better? being among the people or not being seen?

As an outsider you can overview everything that is taking place, get a sense of all that is happening, how the people are on earth, and once this is known then you have a better understanding of how best to inter-react with them.

It reminds me of present day anthropologist that go and live with the great apes and though they are there - interfere with their daily lives as little as possible, of course the A's, don't have any agenda's, but i mean it in the sense that if the habits and nature of something is studied in this way, one can then see how best it would be to start inter-reacting with them in a positive way to gain their acceptance. Is this not actually as many reports say that it has taken place?

though some such as the type 1 greys my mom witnessed do travel by ship, most i believe do not. they are interdimensional beings, or other universal beings. that can go from one place to the other almost instantaneously. NASA has been purposely barking up the wrong tree since it's inception and will never become viable as a means for man to travel through 3rd dimensional space.

Like I said before, it makes no differnce to me whether the powers that control the earth are alien or human. There's nothing I can do about it in either case.

So why should I even care?

If there's nothing I can do about it what's the incentive to even know about it?

Obviously if the top officials of the governments know about aliens enough to actually be making deals with them then so be it. All that would mean is that there is more to the life than we are aware of.

You call them 'aliens'. But if they are part of this universe and this life then they aren't 'aliens' to reality at all. They are just a natural part of reality.

The main thing is that if I can't do anything about them what good does it do for me to believe, or not believe in them?

At least people who are trying to sell a God can give a reason why I might be interested in knowing about it. Supposedly my belief, or non-belief, in a god will affect my future in some imagined next life.

It seems to me that in the case of aliens it's not going to matter whether I believe in them or not. There's nothing I could do about it either way.

Like I said before, a difference that make no difference is no difference.

Unless you know of something that can be done about aliens and have a plan in mind to act on. Then what's the point in trying to get people to believe it? What good will it do for them to believe something they have no contol over?

I tend to be pragmatic. Information that is useless is useless even if it's true.

If you told me that the moon is actually made of pure gold underneath a few feet of surface dust. That information would be totally useless to me becasue I have no way of getting to the moon to extra the gold. So even if it's true it's may as well not be true as far as I'm concerned. There's nothing I can do to benefit from that information.

It seems to me that the same is true about beliving in aliens.

Let's say I believe in them. What then? They haven't bothered me directly for almost 60 years. Should I start shivering in fear that they might start bothering me tomorrow?

And if they are controlling the goverment that would only make things even more hopless that my current believe that it's just humans contolling it. I've totally given up on trying to make a difference just believing that humans are doing these things. If I were to believe that superpowerful aliens were in control that would only make things that much more hopless.

So what do I have to GAIN by believing in these things?

That's the whole point Jeannie.

If there's nothign to GAIN by believing in them then why even bother?

If you can suggest how I might benefit from this supposed knowledge then you might spark my interest to look into it a with a little more enthusiasm.

As it sounds right now, it would just be information that I couldn't do anything about anyway. So what's my incentive to put any energy into believing something that has nothign to offer in return?

People don't even believe in Gods unless they think there's something in it for them. People who claim to love God just because they love him and no other reason are only deluding themselves. They are totally in it for what they think they can get out of it.