Topic: Obama favored by Hispanic voters over McCain
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Mon 07/28/08 10:45 PM
http://www.newsweek.com/id/148656

massachusetts's photo
Mon 07/28/08 10:56 PM
they arerealrepulican where i livein thiscityifyougo into restauraunt dont discuss beingademocrat uh you might notwantto eatthe foodafter

writer_gurl's photo
Mon 07/28/08 10:59 PM
explode :angry: ...I know,I knowmad

Fanta46's photo
Mon 07/28/08 11:29 PM
Here is part of Obamas speech on the Senate floor concerning illegal immigration.



The American people are a welcoming and generous people. But those who enter our country illegally, and those who employ them, disrespect the rule of law. And because we live in an age where terrorists are challenging our borders, we simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States undetected, undocumented, and unchecked. Americans are right to demand better border security and better enforcement of the immigration laws.

The bill the Judiciary Committee has passed would clearly strengthen enforcement. I will repeat that, because those arguing against the Judiciary Committee bill contrast that bill with a strong enforcement bill. The bill the Judiciary Committee passed clearly strengthens enforcement.

To begin with, the agencies charged with border security would receive new technology, new facilities, and more people to stop, process, and deport illegal immigrants.
But while security might start at our borders, it doesn't end there. Millions of undocumented immigrants live and work here without our knowing their identity or their background. We need to strike a workable bargain with them. They have to acknowledge that breaking our immigration laws was wrong. They must pay a penalty, and abide by all of our laws going forward. They must earn the right to stay over a 6-year period, and then they must wait another 5 years as legal permanent residents before they become citizens.

But in exchange for accepting those penalties, we must allow undocumented immigrants to come out of the shadows and step on a path toward full participation in our society. In fact, I will not support any bill that does not provide this earned path to citizenship for the undocumented population--not just for humanitarian reasons; not just because these people, having broken the law, did so for the best of motives, to try and provide a better life for their children and their grandchildren; but also because this is the only practical way we can get a handle on the population that is within our borders right now.

To keep from having to go through this difficult process again in the future, we must also replace the flow of undocumented immigrants coming to work here with a new flow of guestworkers. Illegal immigration is bad for illegal immigrants and bad for the workers against whom they compete.

Replacing the flood of illegals with a regulated stream of legal immigrants who enter the United States after background checks and who are provided labor rights would enhance our security, raise wages, and improve working conditions for all Americans.

But I fully appreciate that we cannot create a new guestworker program without making it as close to impossible as we can for illegal workers to find employment. We do not need new guestworkers plus future undocumented immigrants. We need guestworkers instead of undocumented immigrants.

Toward that end, American employers need to take responsibility. Too often illegal immigrants are lured here with a promise of a job, only to receive unconscionably low wages. In the interest of cheap labor, unscrupulous employers look the other way when employees provide ********** U.S. citizenship documents. Some actually call and place orders for undocumented workers because they don't want to pay minimum wages to American workers in surrounding communities. These acts hurt both American workers and immigrants whose sole aim is to work hard and get ahead. That is why we need a simple, foolproof, and mandatory mechanism for all employers to check the legal status of new hires. Such a mechanism is in the Judiciary Committee bill.

And before any guestworker is hired, the job must be made available to Americans at a decent wage with benefits. Employers then need to show that there are no Americans to take these jobs. I am not willing to take it on faith that there are jobs that Americans will not take. There has to be a showing. If this guestworker program is to succeed, it must be properly calibrated to make certain that these are jobs that cannot be filled by Americans, or that the guestworkers provide particular skills we can't find in this country.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/immigration/49406-barack-obama-illegal-immigration.html

I have no problem with that type of legislation. I supported that bill when it was up for vote last year.
The legal Latinos are the only ones who can vote.
If the majority of them support Obama and are happy with this stance concerning illegal immigration, then I say Rock On!

Fanta46's photo
Mon 07/28/08 11:40 PM
I have no problem with Latino's, but I do have a problem with Shake-n-bake citizenship!

The illegals must pay to gain that right and future illegal immigration must stop!

Kevrides's photo
Thu 07/31/08 08:44 AM
Hispanics are for Obama why? They want entitlements? Yeah, thats what I thought.

Fanta46's photo
Thu 07/31/08 09:14 AM

Hispanics are for Obama why? They want entitlements? Yeah, thats what I thought.


Read that speech kevdrinker

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Thu 07/31/08 11:33 AM
The problem with that speech is that I don't believe a word that comes out of Obama's mouth.
I think he will say anything to get elected regardless of whether or not he intends to follow through with anything like what he is speaking about. So you have the info in this speech on one hand and what I believe will be reality on the other and they are two entirely diferent things. I envision that if Obama wins that he will have done so while promising the hispanic voting block some sort of amnesty (vote for me and I'll get you amnesty)

Obama said:
"But in exchange for accepting those penalties, we must allow undocumented immigrants to come out of the shadows and step on a path toward full participation in our society. In fact, I will not support any bill that does not provide this earned path to citizenship for the undocumented population--not just for humanitarian reasons; not just because these people, having broken the law, did so for the best of motives, to try and provide a better life for their children and their grandchildren; but also because this is the only practical way we can get a handle on the population that is within our borders right now."

If he meant it he would have said:
We must round up those who are here illegally and send them back to where they came from. This will open up untold amounts of entry level and low skill jobs for our teens who are currently just sucking the cash from their parent's savings. NOt only shoul we send any illegal we find back to their homeland but we should send with them any children they may have had while staying illegally in our country. This plan will keep families together and hopefully if the children are old enough they can learn a lesson which would be " Don't go to the USA illegally because you will be sent back or shot on the border".

drinker