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smiless.......it seem so confusing, but it is not at all if one LOOK for the right purpose, as ALL is shown in plain site......
if anything be confusing each blame the writer, or the speaker, and does this not always keep oneself unaware of more possibilities........ a map key is used in geographical maps, as the information is SO MUCH, that it could not be written except in this precise way....... it is not meant to confuse, but rather to make wisdom easier to find, but indeed, if one even look at a map, and say the creators were MORE ignorant than oneself, then one cannot be wiser, by adding both the wisdom that created such, to all onself knows....... call anything ignorant and this keep more wisdom from being seen, and is a basic principle of the mind and universe..... see the good reasons first by seeking to prove how and why, then proceed to better if there are ways, then wisdom always increases each second.......... indeed, this is not the laws the mind gravitate to, and are broken only with great need and purpose, and this purpose, sad to say, can never be found by self desire, as in reality all humans to NOT love themself the most, and therefore selfish reasons alone do not create a strong enough desire to make for the tenacity to follow thru on this and break these pattrens of the mind............. so indeed, it must come from asking oneself "what to i really want the most"...... you will find there is a time when one want NOTHING for themself, and all seems as stale and regurgetated and empty, then the keys to wisdom are seen and granted even in haste........... what bring any to this other than expereince, both good and bad, as if all good expereince, could this EVER be achieved, and so what human would NEED or WANT to see more than the small world of coming and goings of self desire...... this sight birth all the tenacity in the world to accomplish even the greatest of feats once thought impossible, lol....... so it seems we are not selfish ENOUGH to see what we really want, and religion, and others wealth, and others percieved happiness, amoung many things keep one lingering without asking tough questions of oneself......... are our friends really happy.........why should i do as they do......each say they are, but indeed, if true happiness is had it is never a state from which one can emit with proclamation they are......... it is only fear in each, that has purposed many things to make one blind to oneself, and makes for denial of self, which keep one LONGER in delusion as to what will REALLY make oneself happy........ take away each bad that each hate........is there happiness seen with the future seeing eye of the mind.......most times not, so the bads are focused on and sought to be removed, never questioning, until removed and shazam, no happiness or contentment....... WILL THIS MAKE ME HAPPY can be asked and seen, and the heart really does know all the answers....... we do have the ability to know all things in advance, even when unhappiness is imminent, but these are chosen because of fear, by not understanding, to be ignored, and it is not seen these things are told to spare, to change directions, to guide..... indeed to follow the heart, open up many alternatives never seen in advance........... to blindly follow the heart.....never, but rather when one asks the true wise questions of oneself, and answers with ALL honesty, no matter the self pain, then vision of purpose becomes made known, and THIS is all that each seek and bring contentment, which lead to everlasting peace, no matter what storm brew on the horizon........peace |
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I just come to this forum because of davidben1...never have a clue to what the fck he's talking about and would like to know one day, if he speaks like that in real life....
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Question on Buddhism. We know that China has invaded Tibet because they felt that it is a part of Chinesse territory. Now is Tibet still called Tibet and just a part of a province today. If so are they allowed to continue their belief system or is it restricted? Now I know the Dalai Lama doesn't go back to Tibet. Is it because they will throw him in jail or is it he refuses to set his feet in a land that is of Chinesse control? I have watched "7 days in Tibet" with Brad Pitt and it pretty much explains that the Chinesse have invaded the country and the Dalai Lama escaped. It doesn't explain much more after that. the Dali Lama is just the story of Jesus updated not as a religious version but the philosophy version ..but in this version the Dali Lama got the hell out of the country before they could place him on the cross .. |
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I just come to this forum because of davidben1...never have a clue to what the fck he's talking about and would like to know one day, if he speaks like that in real life....
lol....you are an amazing human being, and your honesty is MOST refreshing, and to be treasured.........it is also nice to meet you...... words do not always purpose their intent the same day spoken do they? how many times have you said something that another did not "fully" understand until much later, when the hearer came later and proclaimed with excitement what you had already said many times earlier, lol....... most times the speaker, still full of self-wisdom, say with condemnation, "what the **** was wrong with you, i told you that already a million times" was the hearer ignorant, as the speaker most often assumes, OR were the words "kept" and tucked away by the subconscious, as a squirrel stores it's nuts for wintertime, even subconsciously, until the perfect time when they were NEEDED........ these words will be very needed in the days to come, as much as one needs a drink in the middle of the desert....... many do know the words written here, in part and in some, and they do have much meaning as all words spoken do, but if any recognize any truth in these words, there will NEVER be a condeming voice proclaiming "why did you not see", rather hugs and kisses, knowing the cost of seeing all things of the heart are great.......... if they have no meaning to you, then this is ok, and just as good as if they do, but it is great you come to be amused and speak the greatest wisdom, your honest heart.......ditto's |
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I just come to this forum because of davidben1...never have a clue to what the fck he's talking about and would like to know one day, if he speaks like that in real life....
lol....you are an amazing human being, and your honesty is MOST refreshing, and to be treasured.........it is also nice to meet you...... words do not always purpose their intent the same day spoken do they? how many times have you said something that another did not "fully" understand until much later, when the hearer came later and proclaimed with excitement what you had already said many times earlier, lol....... most times the speaker, still full of self-wisdom, say with condemnation, "what the **** was wrong with you, i told you that already a million times" was the hearer ignorant, as the speaker most often assumes, OR were the words "kept" and tucked away by the subconscious, as a squirrel stores it's nuts for wintertime, even subconsciously, until the perfect time when they were NEEDED........ these words will be very needed in the days to come, as much as one needs a drink in the middle of the desert....... many do know the words written here, in part and in some, and they do have much meaning as all words spoken do, but if any recognize any truth in these words, there will NEVER be a condeming voice proclaiming "why did you not see", rather hugs and kisses, knowing the cost of seeing all things of the heart are great.......... if they have no meaning to you, then this is ok, and just as good as if they do, but it is great you come to be amused and speak the greatest wisdom, your honest heart.......ditto's my point exactly....  
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smiless.......it seem so confusing, but it is not at all if one LOOK for the right purpose, as ALL is shown in plain site...... if anything be confusing each blame the writer, or the speaker, and does this not always keep oneself unaware of more possibilities........ a map key is used in geographical maps, as the information is SO MUCH, that it could not be written except in this precise way....... it is not meant to confuse, but rather to make wisdom easier to find, but indeed, if one even look at a map, and say the creators were MORE ignorant than oneself, then one cannot be wiser, by adding both the wisdom that created such, to all onself knows....... call anything ignorant and this keep more wisdom from being seen, and is a basic principle of the mind and universe..... see the good reasons first by seeking to prove how and why, then proceed to better if there are ways, then wisdom always increases each second.......... indeed, this is not the laws the mind gravitate to, and are broken only with great need and purpose, and this purpose, sad to say, can never be found by self desire, as in reality all humans to NOT love themself the most, and therefore selfish reasons alone do not create a strong enough desire to make for the tenacity to follow thru on this and break these pattrens of the mind............. so indeed, it must come from asking oneself "what to i really want the most"...... you will find there is a time when one want NOTHING for themself, and all seems as stale and regurgetated and empty, then the keys to wisdom are seen and granted even in haste........... what bring any to this other than expereince, both good and bad, as if all good expereince, could this EVER be achieved, and so what human would NEED or WANT to see more than the small world of coming and goings of self desire...... this sight birth all the tenacity in the world to accomplish even the greatest of feats once thought impossible, lol....... so it seems we are not selfish ENOUGH to see what we really want, and religion, and others wealth, and others percieved happiness, amoung many things keep one lingering without asking tough questions of oneself......... are our friends really happy.........why should i do as they do......each say they are, but indeed, if true happiness is had it is never a state from which one can emit with proclamation they are......... it is only fear in each, that has purposed many things to make one blind to oneself, and makes for denial of self, which keep one LONGER in delusion as to what will REALLY make oneself happy........ take away each bad that each hate........is there happiness seen with the future seeing eye of the mind.......most times not, so the bads are focused on and sought to be removed, never questioning, until removed and shazam, no happiness or contentment....... WILL THIS MAKE ME HAPPY can be asked and seen, and the heart really does know all the answers....... we do have the ability to know all things in advance, even when unhappiness is imminent, but these are chosen because of fear, by not understanding, to be ignored, and it is not seen these things are told to spare, to change directions, to guide..... indeed to follow the heart, open up many alternatives never seen in advance........... to blindly follow the heart.....never, but rather when one asks the true wise questions of oneself, and answers with ALL honesty, no matter the self pain, then vision of purpose becomes made known, and THIS is all that each seek and bring contentment, which lead to everlasting peace, no matter what storm brew on the horizon........peace  your scaring me DB1 - i'm beginning to understand you - hahaha
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I just come to this forum because of davidben1...never have a clue to what the fck he's talking about and would like to know one day, if he speaks like that in real life....
Join the club .. Its a shame because Im sure he has some interesting stuff to say. But I just ignore his posts out of hand, as they are far too hard to read. My life is too short to read without correct punctuation or almost-correct sentence structure. |
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I just come to this forum because of davidben1...never have a clue to what the fck he's talking about and would like to know one day, if he speaks like that in real life....
Join the club .. Its a shame because Im sure he has some interesting stuff to say. But I just ignore his posts out of hand, as they are far too hard to read. My life is too short to read without correct punctuation or almost-correct sentence structure. I created a thread where I translated one of his posts but it was quickly deleted. I suppose the moderators thought I was poking fun at him. It took me a lot of work to write that post and I thought it was quite good. JB |
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Wed 07/23/08 08:59 PM
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I just come to this forum because of davidben1...never have a clue to what the fck he's talking about and would like to know one day, if he speaks like that in real life....
Join the club .. Its a shame because Im sure he has some interesting stuff to say. But I just ignore his posts out of hand, as they are far too hard to read. My life is too short to read without correct punctuation or almost-correct sentence structure. I created a thread where I translated one of his posts but it was quickly deleted. I suppose the moderators thought I was poking fun at him. It took me a lot of work to write that post and I thought it was quite good. JB ya i read it JB, no i did not find it offensive either, but i'm not the moderator. Nor DB |
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Yesterday a child came out to wonder
Caught a dragonfly inside a jar Fearful when the sky was full of thunder And tearful at the falling of a star Then the child moved ten times round the seasons Skated over ten clear frozen streams Words like, when you're older, must appease him And promises of someday make his dreams And the seasons they go round and round And the painted ponies go up and down We're captive on the carousel of time We can't return we can only look behind From where we came And go round and round and round In the circle game. Sixteen springs and sixteen summers gone now Cartwheels turn to car wheels thru the town And they tell him, Take your time, it won't be long now Till you drag your feet to slow the circles down And the seasons they go round and round And the painted ponies go up and dawn We're captive on the carousel of time We can't return we can only look behind From where we came And go round and round and round In the circle game So the years spin by and now the boy is twenty Though his dreams have lost some grandeur Coming true There'll be new dreams, maybe better dreams and plenty Before the last revolving year is through. And the seasons they go round and round And the painted ponies go up and down We're captive on the carousel of time We can't return, we can only look behind From where we came And go round and round and round In the circle game |
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Yesterday a child came out to wonder Caught a dragonfly inside a jar Fearful when the sky was full of thunder And tearful at the falling of a star Then the child moved ten times round the seasons Skated over ten clear frozen streams Words like, when you're older, must appease him And promises of someday make his dreams And the seasons they go round and round And the painted ponies go up and down We're captive on the carousel of time We can't return we can only look behind From where we came And go round and round and round In the circle game. Sixteen springs and sixteen summers gone now Cartwheels turn to car wheels thru the town And they tell him, Take your time, it won't be long now Till you drag your feet to slow the circles down And the seasons they go round and round And the painted ponies go up and dawn We're captive on the carousel of time We can't return we can only look behind From where we came And go round and round and round In the circle game So the years spin by and now the boy is twenty Though his dreams have lost some grandeur Coming true There'll be new dreams, maybe better dreams and plenty Before the last revolving year is through. And the seasons they go round and round And the painted ponies go up and down We're captive on the carousel of time We can't return, we can only look behind From where we came And go round and round and round In the circle game Brilliant! I assume the title would be called "In the Circle Game". very nice bravo! 
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oops! sorry miles that is a joni mitchell song from the 70's not mine but yes bravo to her.
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oops! sorry miles that is a joni mitchell song from the 70's not mine but yes bravo to her.
yeah you better be sorry making me believe you wrote that!!! 
ha ha ha!
I am going to go listen to the song now on youtube. thanks 
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lol........is not an informal forum most suitable for free expression, where freedom to write as one enjoys, or has ablitities, or sees fit can do so.........
if my writing style is not enjoyed, or cause confusion, or does not meet current standards embraced by any, then it should in no wise be read, lol....... words written from the mind do indeed sound different, and have no likeness to ones written from the heart...........peace |
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There is nothing better then laughing while learning or exploring. I do it all the time!
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I just come to this forum because of davidben1...never have a clue to what the fck he's talking about and would like to know one day, if he speaks like that in real life....
Join the club .. Its a shame because Im sure he has some interesting stuff to say. But I just ignore his posts out of hand, as they are far too hard to read. My life is too short to read without correct punctuation or almost-correct sentence structure. I created a thread where I translated one of his posts but it was quickly deleted. I suppose the moderators thought I was poking fun at him. It took me a lot of work to write that post and I thought it was quite good. JB after I learned how to use the Rosetta Stone to translate "Creative Soul's" post "DavidBean's" posts are a breeze to read ...I bet Artgurl can read his posts |
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There is a RosettaStone for this!!!
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I just come to this forum because of davidben1...never have a clue to what the fck he's talking about and would like to know one day, if he speaks like that in real life....
Join the club .. Its a shame because Im sure he has some interesting stuff to say. But I just ignore his posts out of hand, as they are far too hard to read. My life is too short to read without correct punctuation or almost-correct sentence structure. I created a thread where I translated one of his posts but it was quickly deleted. I suppose the moderators thought I was poking fun at him. It took me a lot of work to write that post and I thought it was quite good. JB it was not erased by my doing JB, as it is EASY for me to understand why the words and style i write with are not EASY to understand......if i did what you said, it would be even harder, whether you believe me or not, but just the same, i have been most gracious in all my words to you, not for some favor, but to not discourage you in speaking the truths you believe, and in the great service they are for providing debate and dicourse to bring forth more truth, and do not wish for these things to trouble you.......... do not read what you do not like.......EASY, then no trouble comes to you.........peace |
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