Fanta

Im surprised he hasnt been in the other thread about these 9 men dishonoring them there yet!

http://www.justsayhi.com/topic/show/146555

Donald Rumsfeld can not even walk properly and he sends young men and young women die for some futile causes .

What on earth does not walking properly have to do with anthing?

Disabled people on this site will find that comment to be highly offensive.

An old moron who can barely move sends young people who have life ahead of them to die for his stupid lies ....it just makes me sick .

Harper believed in the war in Afghanistan enough to send Canadians there as well sam.
Your countrymen are dying right along side ours.
This war is winnable if Bush would send more Americans there!
Start the draft!!!

Canada would have never ever attacked Afghanistan if it was not the pressure on them from the US .
How many counties did Canada attack without the US or Britain or both are there?.
The US dragged many nations with them under pure pressure .

Are you saying that Canada and Britain can't think for themselves?

What pressure?
Battle your Gov. You have no vote here brother!

When the Canadian soldiers came back from Afghanistan and had a walk in a festival in Quebec City , people were calling them " terrorists '. The majority of Canadians oppose both the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan .
This propaganda of supporting the troops is well maintained by the media and the Administration to accumulate support for futile wars . Humans should see reality as it is .
In America , if you do not support the troops you are not patriotic, this is a moron's logic .
Right is right and wrong is wrong .
I honestly hope that all these wars come to an end and all people live in peace together . Life is short and complex and should not be a game in the hands of people like Donald Rumsfeld .

When the Canadian soldiers came back from Afghanistan and had a walk in a festival in Quebec City , people were calling them " terrorists '.


If Canadians did this which I doubt.
Then shame, shame, shame!!!

It is true and I saw it on the news on CBC
( Canadian Broadcasting Corporation ) among other news networks .
Those Canadians are called here " protesters "...!
I call them living to their conscience .

I call it sad!

Attack your leaders. Dont attack your brave patriots!

A year and a half after he left Iraq, Sgt. Terrell McClain is still fighting the sniper who shot him in the arm and the mortar shells and rockets that rattled his brain. His weapon: biofeedback.

About once a week, McClain, 24, and a handful of other Marines travel from Camp Lejeune's Wounded Warrior Barracks to a lab at East Carolina University, where they are strapped with sensors that measure stress via perspiration, body temperature and heart and brain rhythms.

They are taught methods of controlling anxiety, such as breathing techniques or thinking of pleasant topics. Computer screens let them see the effects in simple terms such as a computer-generated roller coaster that starts moving when they reduce anxiety and stops when it rises again.

McClain said he was skeptical when he started the program in March but is now a believer, because it has helped him control his hair-trigger temper, a typical PTSD symptom.

the Pentagon released data showing that more than 40,000 troops who served in Iraq and Afghanistan had been diagnosed with PTSD, and military leaders say that more have gone undiagnosed. Thousands more have traumatic brain injuries, typically from the blast of the improvised bombs used so often by insurgents in Iraq.


They are lucky ... what about the rest of them?

Bring them all home before they all get damaged beyond repair

I was thinking that was sad too, Fanta.

Anyone who does the killing of innocent people is a MURDERER : very clear and very simple with no political correctness and with no patriotism attached .

Fec the draft. Take them out of Iraq and put enough forces in Alpganastan. It is a shame and disgrace to America that several self-serving men in suits who never had military experience and would not listen to anyone started this illegal war that has killed and mamed millions.

Why should our men be drafted to fight in this illegal war that has been so badly managed and there is No End in Sight. If Israel attacks Iran,
our young men will be fighting a bigger battle to protect Israel. The Iraqi government may be playing politics but they are also speaking for their constuients who want America out. Because they believe as many of us do that it's all about greed and power and taking what you want. Our soldiers are dying for greed.
I think Israel should protect themselves. But they will let our soldiers die for them. And Iraq has now been lifted up to participate in the battle of greed. Our soldiers is just another group to fight against. If Bush and Co. wasn't so stupid and greedy, we might have more world support. Our young men never volunteered to be lied to for a bunch of greedy AH's. And they shouldn't be drafted for that reason.

You think Afghanistan is an illegal war?
Wow!

They should start the draft. A volunteer Army is ok for peace-time, but in war every American should sacrifice equally.
If they did you wouldn't have all these Arm chair Generals and housewives sitting around complacent as America Patriots die.

Too many people in this country just take, take, take, never giving back. Why should a few Patriotic and brave volunteers and their families have to carry the burden for everyone?

Iraq, I'll agree is an illegal war. It has been a distraction from the real reason Americans were willing to engage our military in combat and send our young men into harms way. The Taliban who were ruling Afghanistan with terror and their Al Qaeda guests who attacked Americans on US soil was the reason.

Regardless if we pull out of Iraq or not. Our brave men and women and their families are tired. To ask of them to continue redeploying time and time again at the pace we have is crazy and selfish.
Its destructive to their moral and mental health, and while they sacrifice everything, there are 100 times as many who sit on their privileged asses and do nothing. Half of them couldn't even point to a difference in the two countries or our reasons for being there.
Recruiters cant meet their goals and are resorting to allowing criminals and drug addicts enlist. I'm all for pulling the troops out of Iraq and prosecute Bush and his cronies, but to ask them to continue their sacrifice and jump from one war right into another is asking too much. Many of these soldiers have already served 5 tours in Iraq.

Draft! Draft! Draft! Draft! Its time for all to shoulder the burden, and go after our real enemy!

Not many will agree with you on a draft.

This war has cost over. 2 trillion already, over 4000 American lives and estimated 20,000 -100,000 wounded. There have been 1,236,604 Irai deaths due to the invasion of US. http://www.antiwar.com/casualties/

Israel is threating a strike on Iran and I believe this will lead to more violence in Iraq, or more of our soldiers dying because of lies, greed, and to protect Israel. And instead gaining any respect from our allies, we would lose it even more. Russia would likely supply Iran with weapons to cause more conflict and continue to kill our soldiers in Iraq.

I'm not sure if it is just for politics but the minister of Iraq is asking for a timetable for withdrawal. It must be what the constuients want anyway.
Just like the constuients of America want our soldiers out of this war of lies and greed. Our soldiers never volunteered to be lied to for war anyway.

I just watched the Documentary No End in Sight of how these bumbling idiots in suits messed this war up so badly and wouldn't listen to anyone who knew more about it.

I will give this link because I find it interesting and it will make you think about the world affect this war of greed and imperlism has created. The only way to win is to accept that imperilism is not going to work.

http://www.democracynow.org/2008/2/26/noam_chomsky_why_is_iraq_missing

I strongly believe that both wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are illegal ,unjust ,unfair and against the poor , the weak and those who can not defend themselves . Millions of people were affected in a way of hell, like those who died , were injured and the refugees , just to mention some .
Also there is no balance of power since the US is the only super power fighting the starving nations under false pretexts .
When is all this tyranny ,bullying going to end ?.
The world needs peace and love , not wars and violence .