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ok then you cant be in my world PHHHHTTTT!!! hahaha

The title of the thread is "We are the serpent" which I am guessing means that we are the spreaders of the forbidden fruit of the knowledge of good and evil to the innocents of the world because according to ancient legend it was the serpent who tempted Adam and Eve to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

But we are not "the serpent," although we do serve the serpent race, who is the alien race of advanced humanoids who tinkered with the evolution of mankind on the earth by blending their DNA with humans.

So if we are decedents of those experiments, then we are part reptilian and inner mixed with the serpent race. But we are still humans. We are just improved humans.

Here is a theory: "The serpent" is a race of non-human intelligent (technically advanced) lifeforms called the "naga" the snake people. Mistook for (or identified as) "the devil" in the garden, part of their own advanced alien civilization and some of the group who were tinkering with human-alien hybrids.

It has always been (and still is) all about the creation of a master race. That is why bloodlines are so important. That is why some of these "creator gods" practice and support and encourage genocide, even in this day and age. They seek to destroy what they consider to be the inferior races. It is called "ethnic cleansing."

That is why one of these gods has a "chosen people." These are his creations and his bloodline.

JB

I have not actually seen the "naga" but i had a living room set covered in their hides at one time, not very comfortable but workable when your on a budget.Are they related to the "pleather's" ???

First, I am not sure where God states that if the "bushman" never heard the name of Christ or of God that he would be spared the fate of hell, nor do I remember hearing about how those who were taught a false religion but who truly believed it would likewise be spared. If that is the case then what if one does not believe in God at all or what if one believes that God is bigger than any one religion? If I believe that sincerely then am I spared damnation?

Furthermore, if God is going to grant a pardon to the students of those false teachers then isn't it a problem when we consider that at some point even the teachers were taught? How many generations or ages back are we allowed to travel?

I like your post and your question so please don't read my response wrong. I just wonder how pardons are acceptable for some and yet not for others. Teachers taught me why I believe what I believe and I believe in sincerely. Does that grant me the same reprieve?

Though I do not believe any such reprieve is necessary and while I do not believe that all men are born guilty, it is hard for me to wrap my mind and heart around the arguments that lend foundational support to damnation and hell.

Still, I will forever remain a student, will forever be open to ideas not my own, and will forever look deeper than 2000 year old text for the answers, the questions, and the issues that capture our minds as we continue to try to sort it all out and make the most of this life we live.

-Drew

Those that dont learn from the past are destined to repeat it. One only has to look around to see this is true.Opened minds are fine Drew, but dont throw history our with the bathwater. And i'm not talking of the old book.

I have to agree with Drew's post where he said, "I just wonder how pardons are acceptable for some and yet not for others. "

Also, you stated in the O.P. that "God states if you are taught false teaching and you truly believe those, then you will not be punished, but the teacher shall."

That is really funny, and fabulous at the same time. If it be true, which I doubt, then one might think twice about teaching anything. LOL

But I don't believe that for a minute anyway.

JB

actually that sounds like a law from hamurabbi, if the judge judges wrongly, he shall be removed and be charged 10 times what the judgement was for the accused. better laws than we have now.I'd love to see the congress, senate. president, and especially the supreme court live under that law - hmm?? maybe i will work to get that passed - hahaha

The first account we have of the devil is found in that purely scientific book called Genesis, and is as follows: "Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made, and he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden? And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden; but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die. For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her, and he did eat. And the Lord God said Behold the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil; and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life: and eat, and live forever. Therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the Garden of Eden to till the ground from which he was taken. So he drove out the man, and he placed at the east of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword, which turned every way to keep the way of the tree of life."

According to this account the promise of the devil was fulfilled to the very letter, Adam and Eve did not die, and they did become as gods, knowing good and evil.

http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/robert_ingersoll/gods.html

The account shows, however, that the gods dreaded education and knowledge then just as they do now. The church still faithfully guards the dangerous tree of knowledge, and has exerted in all ages her utmost power to keep mankind from eating the fruit thereof. The priests have never ceased repeating the old falsehood and the old threat: "Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die." From every pulpit comes the same cry, born of the same fear: "Lest they eat and become as gods, knowing good and evil." For this reason, religion hates science, faith detests reason, theology is the sworn enemy of philosophy, and the church with its flaming sword still guards the hated tree, and like its supposed founder, curses to the lowest depths the brave thinkers who eat and become as gods.

If the account given in Genesis is really true, ought we not, after all, to thank this serpent? He was the first schoolmaster, the first advocate of learning, the first enemy of ignorance, the first to whisper in human ears the sacred word liberty, the creator of ambition, the author of modesty, of inquiry, of doubt, of investigation, of progress and of civilization.

http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/robert_ingersoll/gods.html

Interesting take on this mirror, i will wait and see who responds - could get quite interesting indeed. ( sits and ponders the debate to insue???)

Thanks


But I dont think most of them will understand

If the account given in Genesis is really true, ought we not, after all, to thank this serpent? He was the first schoolmaster, the first advocate of learning, the first enemy of ignorance, the first to whisper in human ears the sacred word liberty, the creator of ambition, the author of modesty, of inquiry, of doubt, of investigation, of progress and of civilization.

http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/robert_ingersoll/gods.html





What if our account of the Genesis is basically accurate but our interpretation of it is wrong?

That's what I think. It was just a case of different factions with different agendas. On the one hand those factions who would wish to keep the human creatures Adam and Eve ignorant and innocent clones may have just had the agenda of creating an ignorant slave race who would worship them like gods.

Then Mr. Naga Snake man comes along and decides that is just wrong. He solves the problem with some kind of anti-ignorant drug or mind expanding treatment. LOL and throws a wrench into the plan. LOL

JB

your to funny